Thank you Phil for making this excellent tool available and for making it possible to buy just notes for those of us who have the ESV text already. I really appreciate that. I hope all the graphics and maps will be included. I love those in the paper ESV SB. Have a great day.
Bohuslav
Bohuslav Wojnar:I hope all the graphics and maps will be included. I love those in the paper ESV SB.
Quick question for Phil:
ESV Study Bible Notes : Will all references to bible text in the ESVSB notes bring up ESV bible text or our default "preferred Bible" translation.
It would make more sense if we could be assured it would be ESV text no matter what our prefered Bible setting might currently be.
DaveJ
I would disagree. It's nice to be able to have access to the notes and be able to see them with any translation. In that sense they act as a commentary, which is great!
While comparison of ESV Study notes with a different translation might be nice to do on occasion, it is simple enough to compare passages in different translations: the purpose behind making these Notes available seperately seems more in line with avoiding having to buy a second copy of the ESV text for those who have already invested in a Libronix copy of the ESV text. Linking the ESV Study Bible Notes with ESV Bible text would seem to be closer to the original purpose of the ESV Study Bible.
Phil:
Is it possible just to clarify,
In use, would there be any actual difference in between using the new ESVSB and using an existing 'plain' ESV plus the study notes?
i.e. Would the links and footnotes etc. appear the same?
From the products page, remove the stuff about the ESV itself and there does not seem to be any clarification about how the integration of notes will work.
Thanks.
Martin.
2010 17" MBP with High Sierra, iPad4 with iOS10.
MartinFolley: Phil: Is it possible just to clarify, In use, would there be any actual difference in between using the new ESVSB and using an existing 'plain' ESV plus the study notes? i.e. Would the links and footnotes etc. appear the same? From the products page, remove the stuff about the ESV itself and there does not seem to be any clarification about how the integration of notes will work. Thanks. Martin.
Good question. I would also like to know if the integration of the study Bible part into the ESV BIble text will be the same with buying just the notes part. If not, I would change my pre-order.
It is true however that in the web based version of the ESV SB (you get with the paper one) there is just regular text with ESV references and notes and the Study Bible is parallely synchronized, not put into the very Bible text. So if the Logos will have it similar way, it would make sense we can use the existing text of ESV. Looking forward to hearing from Logos on that.
Martin,
Up until now, all other study Bibles are treated as commentaries. That is, they are independent texts (that can be linked to a translation). You don't even need to have an ESV to use the study Bible notes.
I would prefer that study Bibles have their own category, rather than be classified as commentaries. Maybe in version 4.
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
Richard DeRuiter:I would prefer that study Bibles have their own category, rather than be classified as commentaries. Maybe in version 4.
Agreed.
I like when Logos resource is as close to the paper version as possible in how it looks. That is why I prefer Logos than other BIble software (among other reasons of course).
David J. Wilson:It would make more sense if we could be assured it would be ESV text no matter what our prefered Bible setting might currently be.
Dave, we prefer to leave these decisions with the user rather than forcing them to open a particular version of the Bible. Also, if we hard linked all of the references to the ESV and someone doesn't have the ESV, the links wouldn't open any Bible for them.
MartinFolley: In use, would there be any actual difference in between using the new ESVSB and using an existing 'plain' ESV plus the study notes? i.e. Would the links and footnotes etc. appear the same?
Martin, the ESV Study Bible simply provides you with two separate resources, the ESV Bible text and the ESV Study Bible Notes. If you already have the ESV Bible text, you simply need to purchase the ESV Study Bible Notes resource to get the full ESVSB experience.
Thanks Phil. Very clear.
Phil Gons:Martin, the ESV Study Bible simply provides you with two separate resources, the ESV Bible text and the ESV Study Bible Notes. If you already have the ESV Bible text, you simply need to purchase the ESV Study Bible Notes resource to get the full ESVSB experience.
Great, it will work even with my future Czech Bibles
...by the way, do you know Phil if there is anything new about the Czech Bibles?
It has now moved into the "In Development" stage.
Blessings,
Floyd
Blessings,Floyd
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Floyd Johnson: It has now moved into the "In Development" stage. Blessings, Floyd
That was fast, a lot of people were waiting. At least now Logos gets to tell Crossway “Told ya so...”
"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."
Hi Phil,
Do you have a projected date of completion (and distribution) for the ESV Study Bible notes? I am quite interested and will probably order on Pre-Pub, but I just wanted to know when it will be available.
Thanks,
Kris
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Thanks BW, I'd just ordered ESV study bible without realising it was available as notes only. Your warning prompted me to change my order as I already have it through the Scholar's bundle. Saved 25%. Every bit counts in this recession.
Tony.
Anyone know the status of ESV study notes? It have been in pre-pub stage for few months
I just ordered it yesterday so I'm sure that will speed things along!
Is there an update to this? It has been awhile and no joy.