E-Book Reader

I think it would be greatly beneficial to many Logos users, also resulting in great sales for Logos, if they designed or outsourced the design of a special E-Book Reader that would sync over your entire Logos Library. That would enable people to read the normal books in the library in a more efficient book (e-book reader) format, as I think many people probably don't read books most of the time on their computer, but use Logos more as a searchable resource, specifically commentaries, or read portions of a topical book of a specific topic that they are studying. An E-Book reader similar to the Kindle or Nook would greatly make the rest of the books in the library very convenient to read. If that's not an option for Logos to design their own, perhaps it would be possible to arrange for the Logos books to sync with the Kindle or Nook, but I imagine Logos would be able to make their own innovative product if they would branch out to work on a hardware technology for an E-Book reader. I think many Logos users would purchase such.

Jason Saling

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Anthony Etienne

Jason,

They already do, of sorts...the iPhone app, I use it on both my iPhone and iPod Touch exclusively for my reading plans and reading all my books; that are currently supported. Also as they secure the rights to include more books on the iPhone 3.0 OS, new books from my library are poping up on my iPhone weekly.

No need for them to develope a proprietary piece of hardware when one of the best ebook readers out there is already shipping and tested.

Give it a shot if you can.

Tony Etienne

Jason Saling

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/53799#Comment_53799

I may be switching to the iPhone in the near future, just will have to swallow leaving Verizon's network. My wife has an iPod touch, so I have since Logos on there. It would be nice to have it on a larger display e-book reader though.

Anthony Etienne

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/53801#Comment_53801

Yeah it would be, I'm predicting, or I have BEEN predicting an apple tablet 10x7 or bigger running iPhone 3.0 OS. It would be great and I probably would not buy another laptop ever, except for business.

Of course Apple should have done this already, but I would not be suprised to see it in the future. Perfect ebook reader, especially for people like us who have tons of books in ebook format.

Tony Etienne

Bohuslav Wojnar

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/53801#Comment_53801

It would be nice to have it on a larger display e-book reader though.

We have discussed it a few times already. iPhone is a great option. It is well enough for reading a book. Plus you have also a powerful Bible Study tool (not just eBook Reader). And, by the way, it might be soon, we will see Apple Tablet. I think that is exactly what you speak about. It should be 10" size screen, just ideal for eBook Reader. I hope it will run with some kind of a regular OS, not just iPhone OS. We will see.

Michael March

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/53806#Comment_53806

It would be great to be able to download books for those of us who don't have an iPhone. Reading them online through library.logos.com is just too slow as every page turn needs to be reloaded from the browser. I have a Droid, and while I understand you can't write programs for every platform, even to be able to download and read one book off my sd card with any number of ebook apps would be great. Is this possible?

Rudy Mitchell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/55426#Comment_55426

I have the Nook ebook reader which also uses the Android operating system. I would really like to see Logos work with Nook to get some of their resources available on the Nook and Android phones since the system is not so proprietary and will be growing in use. In addition many people in less developed countries have cell phones but not computers. They may not be able to afford Iphones, but in the future probably Android systems will be available less expensively.

Rev. Gregory S. Byrd

YES, YES, YES I would buy one in a heart beat, trying to decide if I Pad will fill this need. But It will not use liquid ink technology. I think several thousand would be ordered instantly!

Ron

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/100577#Comment_100577

I'm in the same boat. I'm leaning toward an iPad at the moment since that's the closest thing...but I'd much prefer an e-ink Logos reader.

Thomas Fleming

This is the first time I have entered the forums, and I came to discuss this one major topic. No matter how much the value of the Logos package is hyped, until there is a means to read that is easy on the eyes it is still not a substitute for reading books. Some may say there is no difference, but for me there is a substantial difference. I use the Kindle for reading some books, and though it is far from perfect, I would a whole lot rather read a book on that screen than any other computer, phone, or ipad screen. To really study you need sit back and mull over the words. (I am also blinded at times from screens. I think it is a variant of a migraine.) I purchased Logos 3 & now 4 mainly because I am a missionary and need portability. But I still value the collection much less due to these limitation. So my vote is with Jason. After spending a couple thousand, I could put in another three hundred to get a more usable format. Regardless, I am only going to be reading one screen at a time whether it is a LED or E-ink. Short of this a means to transfer to the Kindle would be appreciated. You could devise a means to incorporate any DRM necessary. Thanks

Michael March

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/100837#Comment_100837

May I also add my hope for a Kindle reading platform, as one who has also spent thousands to acquire my library and I agree with you about how good Logos is, but as my books are all electronic, please figure out a way to allow me to really read them. I do not buy books from Logos unless they are directly useful for Bible study or sermon preparation. I am just not going to read a book on my computer screen.

A Kindle app OR an android app, but please allow us something besides apple's screen and company. Android is open source. Kindle is widespread. How about it?

Mark Vaughan

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/100925#Comment_100925

I too would love to see some way to put the logos items on an
ebook reader. I am in Seminary and will purchase the titles on Logos if
they are available. But then I have to sit at the computer to read my reading
assignments. Ugh. Last time I copied my assigned reading into MS word, converted
them to pdf, and uploaded to my kindle dx. Cumbersome - but at least I
got my reading finished.

As far as reading on an i-phone - all I can say is - try reading
50+ pages on an iphone and you’ll be burned out. Same for the ipad. The issue is reading from a backlit screen. The kindle is not backlit which makes it much easier on the yes.

Geoff Johnson

I just want to add a vote for the Nook to this discussion. It may not be the best e-book reader, but it is the one I have, and I enjoy using it to read away from my house. I can take to the gym and ready while on a treadmill, and it is much handier when traveling than booting up a laptop. I know the iPad is the hot new thing, but I already own the Nook, and it would be simply superb if I could take a book from my Logos collection with me anywhere I might go.

I have thought about printing to a PDF and then moving the PDF to the Nook; in theory this should work, though I haven't tried it yet. But it would be cumbersome to do that with all the books I might want to travel with.

Alan Head

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/132542#Comment_132542

Yes, I have a Nook and the screen is amazing for reading compared to my iPhone or a computer screen.

Logos, with the pricing dropping steadily on these devices (Nook vs. Kindle price war right now) I think they will only become more popular and would be a good outlet for expansion.

Phillip

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/142831#Comment_142831

Does anyone know if the link below works on the Nook?

http://library.logos.com

NYSERVANT

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/144717#Comment_144717

Yes, but:

1. You must be in Wifi for it to be accessible. The 3g connection does not work for internet use like this.

2. Very slow loading. Takes a long time to change pages

3. Improper formatting. You can't read a whole page on just one screen shot.

I just bought my wife the nook and I would love to be able to access my logos books on it. I tried to get her to wait for the innoversal (a windows based tablet with the pixel qi screen) but she wanted her ebook reader now.

Any ideas on when compatibility with another product other than apple products will happen?

Timothy Ha

A light-weight reader on PC would be good, too. I am using a Tablet and could benefit more from a light-weight reader of my purchased Logos books.

Floyd Johnson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/146333#Comment_146333

A light-weight reader on PC would be good, too. I am using a Tablet and could benefit more from a light-weight reader of my purchased Logos books.

[Y]

Thomas Fleming

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/146333#Comment_146333

Agreed. That is why I try to keep my books current in Libronix 3. I am not using libronix presently. But I envision such a scenario. It is not lightweight, but it is much lighter than Logos 4. Logos 4 is powerful, but limits the computers that can use it effectively.

steve haworth

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/146351#Comment_146351

Yeah i also would like an easy way to read logos books with e-ink - ipad has to much glare for reading long term

i have an i irex digital reader - perfect for reading pdf's - i'm just reseraching an easy way to get logos books to pdf's - any ideas?

steve haworth

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/148098#Comment_148098

ok found quick solution to this problem.

I can now copy entire books in matter1 of seconds - transfer them to word - transfer them to pdf - read on my pdf reader.

This is the only way i found to copy books quickly (rather than scrolling through the book which takes ages)

1. left click and highlight book title - keep the left mouse button held down

2. while left mouse button held down , press the right mouse button

3. a menu pops up when you press the right mouse and when it does you can let go of left mouse button

4. now scroll down to the end of the book real quick with the side scrollers (should take 2 seconds)

5. the whole book is now highlighted, the menu is still open and you can press "copy"

6. that's the hard part ..now just copy into word and save as pdf and bingo, you can import into your e-book reader ^.^

steve haworth

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/148108#Comment_148108

p.s. the above process really should only take about 20 seconds to get your libronix book into a pdf

steve haworth

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/148109#Comment_148109

sorry guys ...on step four i use a #mce_temp_url#

Stephen Dufresne

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/148212#Comment_148212

I can't get that system to work the side scrolls do not highlight the whole text, I end up with only the last 5 or 6 pages copied. And the menu doesn't stay up as soon as I use left click to scroll down the side.

David Paul

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/167827#Comment_167827

I tried using my friend's i-phone app to look up some stuff in Logos and found it to be sheer misery. I don't like anything apple makes, period. My guess is I will probably not ever bother with an e-book reader either. I doubt it would be quite as annoying, but I don't mind reading books on my laptop...in fact, I find that I read much more quickly--even compared to printed text--when I increase the font size and read in a floating tab. I blazed through a book in a few hours that would have taken me a couple of days at least if I were reading the hard copy. I doubt I would have the same experience with a reader. But over and above the issue of reading speed and comfort, there isn't a whole lot I can read in my library that doesn't have me wanting to type notes of some kind, whether it be for the resource I'm reading, or copying notes into my bible. So I am back to using my laptop again. I HATE pecking one letter at a time on little hand-held gizmos.

I have a couple of friends who have i-pads, one of which also uses Logos (at my prodding). They sit by each other pointing at each other's screens during study, acknowledging each other as part of the i-n crowd. I feel sorry for them...I have twice as much real estate and can use it probably 20 times more effectively with dozens of resources opened...and they're over there swiping away at that mini-screen. Bah...HUMBUG! [+o(]

Just some thoughts from someone who isn't on this particular bandwagon.

LONG LIVE THE LAPTOP!!!! [Y]

Bohuslav Wojnar

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/167840#Comment_167840

LONG LIVE THE LAPTOP!!!!

David, I understand your feeling about the iPad "inner circle" mentality and hype. I use laptop for reading and studying all the time. However, I found myself that in the situations I would not be able to read any books and I would just listen radio or do nothing (I still can pray, yes... :-O) and I haven't expected to have any time to wait, I do not have my laptop with me but I always, I mean always, have my iPhone with me. I open Logos and here I am, continuing my reading... excellent, convenient, easy, just great.

I am thinking: would iPad be that practical for me also? No, not at all, because I would have it with me only in the situations I plan to have some time for reading. But in those situations I have my laptop with me also, so what is the point in having iPad? I found a combination of laptop and iPhone/Android phone/Blackberry etc. is just the best. So I agree with all who call for having Logos on those platforms.

Timothy Ha

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/169100#Comment_169100

I am thinking: would iPad be that practical for me also? No, not at all, because I would have it with me only in the situations I plan to have some time for reading. But in those situations I have my laptop with me also, so what is the point in having iPad?

Your thought is interesting. I am still considering whether I need an iPad or not. It is just too expensive right now. Perhaps a large LCD monitor at home for better Bible study with the laptop is still a better purchase :-)

Ron Baughman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/72293#Comment_72293

I doubt I'll buy any more Logos books until there's some clarity about how to get the books I've already paid for onto my Nook.

With traditional DTBs (dead tree books) I never had to worry about format or having to repurchase.... now that's a legitimate concern for anything I buy to read. The convenience of having a library in your hand, or to download something new via WiFi or 3G makes it the route of choice for new literary purchases.

Timothy Ha

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/190514#Comment_190514

The Print/Export functionality can now export up to 100 pages in PDF and/or other formats so you can bring parts of the books to your E-reader.

NYSERVANT

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/190519#Comment_190519

I send it as a word file and then I use stanza to turn it into a .pub file