Why do you study the Bible....

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Terry Poperszky | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Dec 15 2009 6:39 AM

And how does Logos (whatever version) help you accomplish your goal?

 

 

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Kaye Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 15 2009 7:00 AM

I study to know who God is, what Christ did for me and what I can do to show my faith and gratitude.  I study to be a better person - mother, daughter, sister, friend, employee.  I do it because it makes me stronger in the face of this stressful and increasingly evil world when just about anything can be rationalized as "good".  It always brings my faults into sharp contrast with faithful people whose stories are told there but gives me hope and courage to try again when I fall.  It lets me know I am greatly loved even at times when I don't love myself.

Logos helps me because I'm a computer person, a researcher, a scholar wanna be.  I used to read a paper Bible, years ago, but I found it much harder to jump through other resources to dig into the Word in depth.  Logos has given me tons of resources instead of one study Bible and gives me original language tools, as well as a place to keep my notes.  I was never that comfortable with writing in my paper Bible and eventually I just quit reading, too.  Not that I think it is a bad thing to write notes there but my handwriting is not the best and so it would get too messy.  Now I have color coded post-its scattered all over Logos but they are typed and I can turn them off if they interrupt my thoughts.

I'll ask you the same questions...

K

"But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry."  2 Timothy 4:5 (NASB)

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Bryan Brodess | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 15 2009 7:16 AM

I study scripture because it is the only verifyable words communicated to us through our God. I study because eternity is to long to place my eternity is anyone elses hands. And what I do on earth is to important to God to just blindly follow anyone, thinking they are right just because they claim to be from God. Plus, Paul commands us to study to show ourself approved, to be ready to give an answer, and to know who is teaching from God, and who is not.

 

Logos is great because it places alot of information just a click away to allow us to be able to do all the things I mentioned above.. Imagine having to place a hundred books on a table to study a passage of scripture.. Alot easier to do it on a computer..

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Terry Poperszky | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 15 2009 7:48 AM

Kaye Anderson:
I'll ask you the same questions...

 

Fair enough question and I will try and give you an answer that hasn't really formed itself fully in my own mind. I believe that the bible is the standard by which all knowledge and actions are to ultimately be judged, but that isn't the reason that I study it. I study it (generically) because it increases my understanding of God and what I can expect from Him and what He expects from me. I study it today, because one of the teens that I was teaching told me that my my lessons were all starting to sound alike. One of the first concepts I grasped before becoming a Pastor (I left the ministry in 1998) was that your teaching/preaching should be an out flow/over flow of what God is doing in your own life. Well, it turns out that I had been living off of the spiritual fat that I had stored up over the years. So, I resigned my position as a Sunday School teacher (as well as a couple of others), started a precept bible study class in Isaiah at a different Church. Upgraded Logos to L4 and I am trying  to learn how to feed myself again. Once there is overflow, I will start teaching again (Which will make the teacher of my SS class very happy).

 

RIght now Logos is as much of a hinderance as a help. The bells and whistle's will as often derail my study, as enhance it. But that is not Logos' fault, that is the fault of my lack of discipline. So, L4 is providing a frame work for me to develop a disciplined habit of bible study, much as the precept study is. So, the two habits that I am working on currently: 1. No forum until I have finished the daily scripture reading in my precept courses (1 OT, 1 NT). 2. No rabbit trails while I am actually doing bible study. I use the Notes column to make a list of questions and insights, then once I have finished the studying the passage. I go back to those and research them individually. My reading layout consists of highlighters/notes, English bible, information tab which allows me to keep my focus and follow the flow of scripture.

 

 

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Kaye Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 15 2009 9:07 AM

Interesting and honest response.  Thanks.

I agree with both - the need to feast on the Word as an ongoing thing to replenish what we have to offer and the distraction the "aids" like Logos can be if we focus on the new toy or get frustrated by any difficulties in the interface. 

My own push right now is to do the Bible in a Year reading first thing in the morning without fail, then my precept study on Daniel several days a week.  If I don't, I get caught up in the "fun" reading instead.  I have LOTS of interesting books now...

Let me know how the study goes!

 

"But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry."  2 Timothy 4:5 (NASB)

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 15 2009 11:19 AM

I'll throw in my 02 cents here...

I study God's word because it's the only thing worth studying that won't "rust, or decay" and eventually be gone; it's value is real...is there ANYTHING more exciting than studying the word of God?...??

I also study to answer questions for mysef; I'll read something that promps a question in my mind...then I HAVE to have it answered.

Sometimes I have to answer a question because of my involvement in witnessing to people..questions get asked...or discussions happen...there is nothing that I'd rather do than study the word.

I guess that's about it....

Robert Pavich

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 15 2009 11:32 AM

Originally I studied the Bible because I was determined to know the truth about who Jesus is.  I had to know.  Over time I became convinced in the absolute deity of Christ and surrendered  to him with repentance. 

I then added studying so I could learn to obey Him. Then I felt the call to the pastorate.

Then I added studying the scriptures because it was required to finish my assignments (tongue slightly in my cheek there.)

Now as a pastor I still do all of the above, but I study in order to present myself a workman who need not be ashamed. 

Seriously.  I still read and study the Bible for me and my relationship to God.  I additionally do the same because a small flock of people are eager to hear what God's word says and means.

As you note Terry keeping myself fed first is paramount before I attempt to feed others.  Pardon me, I'm hungry...

Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 15 2009 12:52 PM

I study the Bible as part of an ongoing conversation with God, especially that part where I listen. Logos does not particularly help me in this. Logos helps me in developing materials to help others learn to listen as part of their ongoing conversation with God - and their conversations often help me in mine.

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 16 2009 12:41 AM

I study the Bible to grow in Christ and because it never gets old. I can never exhaust its depth and riches.

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DominicM | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 16 2009 3:33 AM

I study the Bible because to me its my refuge/strength and touchstone, If I didnt have God and his word,  life for me would be meaningless and pointless.

Infact several years ago when I was in a depressed state, the only thing that stopped me from ending it all was the fact, I could not take away was Gods love for me that he would send His own Son to die for me, everythin else in my life was irrellevant, was able to be discoiunted except that.

I gave up preaching/teaching for 9 years because I believed I was not educated/equipped enough

Gods calling however cannot be silenced, The passion to equip and encourage the saints never died, and  He blessedly  has restored this ministry to me in the  last couple of years, I cant agree more than with all of you, having preached a sermon in the early days on an empty tank, I vowed never again.

I study to know him better, and his unchangable word better, BUT you can't teach what you dont know, if it hasnt impacted your life then its alien to you and maybe you should not be teaching it. (At least thats my experience).

I guess I also study because I want to be all I can be for God
-His Obedient child
-A Pure Vessel he can use
-A Light in Dark places
-An Voice of Hope/Encouragement

[edited by: DominicM at 3:40 AM (GMT -8) on Wed, Dec 16 2009]

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 16 2009 3:54 AM

I doubt that I can add much to what has already been said by others, but I will briefly add my thoughts (maybe just a thought).

I study the Bible because it is God's self revelation of Himself to humanity. Long ago, I heard a speaker call the Bible "a bound volume of God's love letters to man." I have since learned that it is all that and more. Scripture—and Scripture alone—is a reliable guide to eternal life (eternal fellowship with God). I study the Bible so that I can know God, and so that I can attempt to communicate that knowledge to others.

I use Logos in Bible Study because it is a reliable tool.

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JM | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 16 2009 6:02 AM

I study the Bible because it's fun!  I didn't always feel this way.  I use to party a lot, play a lot of sports, play a lot of music, hung out in bars...Reading the Bible was the last thing on my mind...It was a chore and a drag...Boring!!!  Then I was approached by my Church's Board to get involved with our college kids to keep them from leaving the flock and going to another Church or leaving the Body of Christ entirely.  I asked them, "What will be my role and title?"  They said with all seriousness, "You'll be 'The Guy with All the Answers to All Their Questions'".  I sarcastically said, "Sure.  That's sounds easy!  No prob...I'll do it."  But I knew I wasn't any where near being equipped for the task...I couldn't answer one question without being heretical let alone having one proper answer to one of their questions...I'm a party guy!...I'm a wise-guy!  So I purchased Zondervan/Pradis Scholar's Library, NIVAC-NT, and EBC which I quickly out grew.  Researching the internet brought me to Logos.  THOUSANDS of dollars later, I've given up partying, playing sports, playing music even, AND hanging out in bars because I find studying the Bible using Logos much more fun!  Really!  I never thought I would actually say that one day in all seriousness.  I wake up extra early every morning eager to turn on Logos and see what the LORD has to say to me through Logos.  As a result of my teaching, I've gotten the young men in our Church to publicly vow to give up internet porn and drinking alcohol!  It wasn't a planned event on my part.  I didn't know they were going to do this.  I was shocked!   And they in turn have gotten the guys in their respective college fellowship groups to do the same!  Simply because they also have found studying the Bible fun!  Now the last part is what I really find fun...When other people find it fun too...

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Scott S | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 16 2009 8:56 AM

JonelyMoy,

That's a great story!

Scott

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Terry Poperszky | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 16 2009 6:45 PM

Thanks to all of you who shared. This forum is populated with such a diverse group of people, with differing bible study techniques that I just wanted to see everyone's motivation. 

 

 

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Joe K | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 16 2009 7:42 PM

Motive: 2 Timothy 2:15 (ESV) Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth.

Merry Christmas! -JoeK

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Alex Scott | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 16 2009 8:46 PM

Hey JoeK !!!   Great to see you back again.

Longtime Logos user (more than $30,000 in purchases) - now a second class user because I won't pay them more every month or year.

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Sharon | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 16 2009 11:59 PM

I study my Bible because God is speaking and I am terrified of Him (awesome reverential respect, but true terror nevertheless).

He is the Creator and He owns everything, including me!  It is my duty as His to respond rightly to Him.  The Sovereign Almighty God drew me to Him and placed the Bible before me.  It made audacious claims and I believed them.  I obeyed Him, part of which was to sit at His feet and learn of Him.  Fear never gave way, but Love grew in beside it.

Since then my love for Him and His ways deepens daily, I spend more and more time with my Beloved, and I realize more and more the awesome privilege it is to be able to respond rightly to Him through His Spirit.

To put it another way, just as I eat physical food because I live, so it is with the True Bread - To live is Christ.  Christ is The Word.  I must live by every Word of God.  I study the Bible because I live.

 

I do not use Logos as much for my actual study as I use it for organization, preparation, etc. in order to teach students and others how to study Him in His Word.  That is not to say I don't use it at all for my personal study - quick cross-referencing, lightning speed word studies, a multitude of commentaries for safety checks, and a host of other ways.  It is just that there is no more profitable way for me to hear Him than just sitting at His feet listening, reading, studying, praying, repenting, praising, thanking. 

He has magnified His Word together with His Name!

Sharon

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Juanita | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 17 2009 9:42 AM

Sharon,

You mentioned in another post somewhere, that you learned about Logos when in Ft. Collins with CCC; you aren't Campus Crusade staff, are you?  If so, we have something in common.

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Sharon | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 17 2009 10:32 AM

Hi Joan,

We were staff for 10 years - many years ago.

Thanks for the hello in the newbie thread.

Sharon

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Daisy | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 18 2009 4:21 AM

I love to study God's Word because that's when I feel Him the closest, (is that a word), the most close.  I feel absolute peace when I am studying His Word.  It's like I'm not really studying but I am visiting Him at His house and we are sitting down with tea and just talking to each other and He's explaining the words there. 

Logos helps because it has the interlinear with the text and it's like the Word is cracked open and I see so much stuff that I want Him to explain.  I love being able to find all the verses for one greek or hebrew word.  Reading them all at once is amazing.  Before I had Logos it would take forever to find all the places some of the words were.  Sometimes it was just impossible.  Man, but now I can honestly do it in minutes!  I love being able to read all the different versions of the Bible for one verse or one passage of scripture.  And I absolutely love seeing the gospels side by side, I forget the word for it.  There is just so much I can do now in my Bible study that I couldn't do before.  And what is the best is my LORD is right beside me haviing just as much fun as me.  It just seems like there are more "ah ha" moments with Him than before.   I am disabled, my back keeps me in bed a lot.  ( 4 failed back surgeries).  I say that only to say I have a lot of time on my hands and when I am really hurting a lot, He takes my mind off the pain, time seems to pass quicker.

I love God and His Word, and I love Logos! 

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