Remembering Link set Follow Off

steve clark
steve clark Member Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Is there a way for Power Lookup, Explorer, and Cited By to remember that i have set the Link set from Follow to None when i close and reopen L4 ?

QLinks, Bibl2, LLR, Macros
Dell Insp 17-5748, i5, 1.7 GHz, 8G RAM, win 8.1

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  • Damian McGrath
    Damian McGrath Member Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭

    Steve,

    I have asked numerous times for such a feature (or that when I activate this tools through the right click menu that the default be to not follow).

    Many others have voiced a similar opinion.

  • steve clark
    steve clark Member Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭

    Thanks Damian !

    Perhaps it will happen in the future. In my layout, i have these tools open and i have to reset them to none each time i reopen the layout. Not that big of a deal, my system is a little slower than some and keeping the Follow off hopefully helps some on the speed thing. Thanks for the info.

    QLinks, Bibl2, LLR, Macros
    Dell Insp 17-5748, i5, 1.7 GHz, 8G RAM, win 8.1

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is the difference between using "Follow" for these tools and setting them to Link Set A (assuming your other open resources are also set to Link Set A)?

    Which resource do these tools Follow when there are more than one which are not linked together? It appears to be whichever one has the focus. But I want to know the philosophy behind "Follow" to be sure I'm getting it.

  • Damian McGrath
    Damian McGrath Member Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭

    But I want to know the philosophy behind "Follow" to be sure I'm getting it.

    Rosie, I have absolutely no idea what "philosophy" could possibly lie behind "follow" as default except in the case of the power lookup tool. In this case, it functions well when one wants to read the footnotes or look at the apparatus (that is when it functions like an information window)

    I cannot for the life of me understand why the power lookup, cited by, or explorer tools are set, by default, to follow when triggered from the right-click context menu. When I trigger these tools, it is because I want more information about a particular word or verse. As soon as one selects an entry to read more of (absolutely essential in all these tools as the provide almost nothing by default), the tool automatically shifts focus. 

    This behaviour is so frustrating that I have given up on activating them and trying to remember to set follow to off. I just do not use them.

    This particular behaviour seems designed by someone who has never used logos to study the bible.

     

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Rosie, I have absolutely no idea what "philosophy" could possibly lie behind "follow" as default except in the case of the power lookup tool. In this case, it functions well when one wants to read the footnotes or look at the apparatus (that is when it functions like an information window.


    I hear your frustration, and I agree that I'd never use Cited By or Explorer with Follow turned on. I just wanted to know what is the difference between Follow and using the same Link Set as an open resource. Again, not that I'd ever want to use it; but I'm still in "explore this whole product and get to know every corner of it so I can help others with it" mode. Just recently there was a request on another thread from someone who wished that the "Follow" feature were available on all resources, not just the tools. So it evidently has made some people happy.

  • Damian McGrath
    Damian McGrath Member Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭

    Sorry Rosie, I probably should have just answered your question - instead of venting.

    "Follow" is the Logos equivalent of a stalker - wherever you go, it follows.

    As soon as you click on a resource or scroll a resource, the tool follows....

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Sorry Rosie, I probably should have just answered your question - instead of venting.

    "Follow" is the Logos equivalent of a stalker - wherever you go, it follows.

    As soon as you click on a resource or scroll a resource, the tool follows....


    Yeah, but doesn't setting them both to "Link Set A" do that as well? I'm still not quite sure what the difference is. It seems to me to be just a shortcut for setting all your open resources to Link Set A and the tool to Link Set A as well.  Or could you have two sets of open resources linked -- one with Link Set A and another with Link Set B, and the "Follow" tool would change to follow whichever of the resources has the active focus?

    I guess I'm still learning how Link sets work. I never really used them much in L3. I seem to spend a lot of time setting resources to Link Set A so they'll scroll together and then they don't retain that when I close them and open them back up again. Perhaps it's a setting that only gets saved if you save it in a the Layout? Even though other aspects of the resource (like what was the current verse you were viewing) seem to be retained when you close and re-open them. So it's kind of odd that the Link Set doesn't get remembered.

  • Kevin Becker
    Kevin Becker Member Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭

    A linked set stays with a particular window. However, follow shifts with every change of active window. What results is that every shift in focus causes the information to change. Take for example, I read something in the explorer etc. (with link set to follow) that sparks an idea so I open a lexicon to double check something. BAM! (ok, this might be too dramatic) the information, which I probably want to reread after checking the lexicon, is gone; it has been replaced with stuff drawn from the lexicon.

  • steve clark
    steve clark Member Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭

    Ahh, found that if i set Power Lookup, Explorer, & Cited By to a link (e.g. A, B, etc) that L4 will remember those setting the next time it opens. At least there is not as much activity.

    Thanks

    QLinks, Bibl2, LLR, Macros
    Dell Insp 17-5748, i5, 1.7 GHz, 8G RAM, win 8.1

  • Jim
    Jim Member Posts: 731 ✭✭✭

    On resource options in the upper-left corner of each tile you can set the resource to link to set A, B, C etc. But what is "FOLLOW"? I didn't even know how to look this up in the help file. Thanks.

    Have a great day,
    jmac

  • LaRosa Johnson
    LaRosa Johnson Member Posts: 603 ✭✭

    But what is "FOLLOW"?

    Instead of following along with any particular link set, the "Follow" option follows whatever the active window is. So if you're currently viewing a Bible, it will follow the Bible, but as soon as you switch to a commentary, it begins to follow the commentary, etc.

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  • Jim
    Jim Member Posts: 731 ✭✭✭

    John, your too good. I found the answer a few posts above after I posted my question and tried to delete my post but it wouldn't allow me to because you were already answering my query! Now that's getting fast help. Thanks.

    Have a great day,
    jmac