Personal Books (PBB) & the Lectionary

Holly Haines
Holly Haines Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Really, really excited that Logos has added Lectionary tags for Personal Books (PBB).  Unfortunately, the wiki notes http://wiki.logos.com/Lectionary_and_Harmony_Support aren't terribly clear about the data fields that I need to put in - an example would be extremely helpful! 

Has anyone used the new 5.1 Lectionary feature with Personal Books?  This is a particularly busy season at church or I'd simply experiment with it until it made sense.

Blessings, Holly

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  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    I can't really help you, but I know there were threads in the Beta forum some weeks ago, including examples. Or you can try searching for relatively recent posts by MJ Smith that include words like 'lectionary' or 'harmony'.

    Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,946

    What you need depends in part on what lectionary you are doing. Some fit very nicely into the assumed structure ... some you "misuse" tags to make them work. An example:

    Season of Creation Lectionary

     

    Year C

    [[@YearMonthDay:September 8, 2013]]
    {{field-on:date}}Sunday, September 8, 2013{{field-off:date}} ­| {{field-on:season}}Season of Creation{{field-off:season}}
    First Sunday in Creation
    {{field-on:day}}Ocean Sunday{{field-off:day}} {{field-on:year}}Year C{{field-off:year}}

     

    Old Testament  

    {{field-on:reading}}Job 38:1-18{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Job 38:1-18}}

     

    Psalm                   

    {{field-on:reading}}Psalm 104:1-9, 24-26{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Psalm 104:1-9}}

    {{dtext ref= Psalm 104:24-26}}

     

     

    Epistle                  

    {{field-on:reading}}Ephesians 1:3-10{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Ephesians 1:3-10}}

     

    Gospel                 

    {{field-on:reading}}Luke 5:1-11{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Luke 5:1-11}}

    [[@YearMonthDay:September 15, 2013]]
    {{field-on:date}}Sunday, September 15, 2013{{field-off:date}} | {{field-on:season}}Season of Creation{{field-off:season}}
    Second Sunday in Creation
    {{field-on:day}}Fauna Sunday{{field-off:day}} {{field-on:year}}Year C{{field-off:year}}

     

    Old Testament  

    {{field-on:reading}}Job 39:1-8, 26-30{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Job 39:1-8}}

    {{dtext ref= Job 39:26-30}}

     

     

    Psalm                   

    {{field-on:reading}}Psalm 104:14-23{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Psalm 104:14-23}}

     

    Epistle                  

    {{field-on:reading}}1 Corinthians 1:10-23{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= 1 Corinthians 1:10-23}}

     

    Gospel                 

    {{field-on:reading}}Luke 12:22-31{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Luke 12:22-31}}

    [[@YearMonthDay:September 22, 2013]]
    {{field-on:date}}Sunday, September 22, 2013{{field-off:date}} ­| {{field-on:season}}Season of Creation{{field-off:season}}
    Third Sunday in Creation
    {{field-on:day}}Storm Sunday{{field-off:day}} {{field-on:year}}Year C{{field-off:year}}

     

    Old Testament  

    {{field-on:reading}}Job 28:20-27{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Job 28:20-27}}

     

    Psalm                   

    {{field-on:reading}}Psalm 29{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Psalm 29}}

     

    Epistle                  

    {{field-on:reading}}1 Corinthians 1:21-31{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= 1 Corinthians 1:21-31}}

     

    Gospel                 

    {{field-on:reading}}Luke 8:22-25{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Luke 8:22-25}}

    [[@YearMonthDay:September 29, 2013]]
    {{field-on:date}}Sunday, September 29, 2013{{field-off:date}} ­| {{field-on:season}}Season of Creation{{field-off:season}}
    Fourth Sunday in Creation
    {{field-on:day}}Cosmos Sunday{{field-off:day}} {{field-on:year}}Year C{{field-off:year}}

     

    Old Testament  

    {{field-on:reading}}Proverbs 8:22-31{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Proverbs 8:22-31}}

     

    Psalm                   

    {{field-on:reading}}Psalm 148{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Psalm 148}}

     

    Epistle                  

    {{field-on:reading}}Colossians 1:15-20{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Colossians 1:15-20}}

     

    Gospel                 

    {{field-on:reading}}John 6:41-51{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= John 6:41-51}}

     

    Year A

    [[@YearMonthDay:September 7, 2014]]
    {{field-on:date}}Sunday, September 7, 2014{{field-off:date}} ­| {{field-on:season}}Season of Creation{{field-off:season}}
    First Sunday in Creation
    {{field-on:day}}Forest Sunday{{field-off:day}} {{field-on:year}}Year A{{field-off:year}}

     

    Old Testament  

    {{field-on:reading}}Genesis 2:4b-22{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Genesis 2:4b-22}}

     

    Psalm                   

    {{field-on:reading}}Psalm 139:13-16{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Psalm 139:13-16}}

     

    Epistle                  

    {{field-on:reading}}Acts 17:22-28{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Acts 17:22-28}}

     

    Gospel                 

    {{field-on:reading}}John 3:1-16{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= John 3:1-16}}

    [[@YearMonthDay:September 14, 2014]]
    {{field-on:date}}Sunday, September 14, 2014{{field-off:date}} | {{field-on:season}}Season of Creation{{field-off:season}}
    Second Sunday in Creation
    {{field-on:day}}Land Sunday{{field-off:day}} {{field-on:year}}Year A{{field-off:year}}

     

    Old Testament  

    {{field-on:reading}}Genesis 3:14-19; 4:8-16{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Genesis 3:14-19}}

    {{dtext ref= Genesis 4:8-16}}

     

     

    Psalm                   

    {{field-on:reading}}Psalm 139:7-12{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Psalm 139:7-12}}

     

    Epistle                  

    {{field-on:reading}}Romans 5:12-17{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Romans 5:12-17}}

     

    Gospel                 

    {{field-on:reading}}Matthew 12:38-40{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Matthew 12:38-40}}

    [[@YearMonthDay:September 21, 2014]]
    {{field-on:date}}Sunday, September 21, 2014{{field-off:date}} ­| {{field-on:season}}Season of Creation{{field-off:season}}
    Third Sunday in Creation
    {{field-on:day}}Outback/Wilderness Sunday{{field-off:day}} {{field-on:year}}Year A{{field-off:year}}

     

    Old Testament  

    {{field-on:reading}}Joel 1:8-10, 17-20{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Joel 1:8-10}}

    {{dtext ref= Joel 1:17-20}}

     

     

    Psalm                   

    {{field-on:reading}}Psalm 18:6-19{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Psalm 18:6-19}}

     

    Epistle                  

    {{field-on:reading}}Romans 8:18-27{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Romans 8:18-27}}

     

    Gospel                 

    {{field-on:reading}}Matthew 3:13-4:2{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Matthew 3:13-4:2}}

     

    OR

     

    {{field-on:reading}}Mark 1:9-13{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Mark 1:9-13}}

     

    [[@YearMonthDay:September 28, 2014]]
    {{field-on:date}}Sunday, September 28, 2014{{field-off:date}} ­| {{field-on:season}}Season of Creation{{field-off:season}}
    Fourth Sunday in Creation
    {{field-on:day}}River Sunday{{field-off:day}} {{field-on:year}}Year A{{field-off:year}}

     

    Old Testament  

    {{field-on:reading}}Genesis 8:20-22; 9:12-17{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Genesis 8:20-22}}

    {{dtext ref= Genesis 9:12-17}}

     

    Psalm                   

    {{field-on:reading}}Psalm 104:27-33{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Psalm 104:27-33}}

     

    Epistle                  

    {{field-on:reading}}Revelation 22:1-5{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Revelation 22:1-5}}

     

    Gospel                 

    {{field-on:reading}}Matthew 28:1-10{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Matthew 28:1-10}}

     

    Year B

    [[@YearMonthDay:September 6, 2015]]
    {{field-on:date}}Sunday, September 6, 2015{{field-off:date}} ­| {{field-on:season}}Season of Creation{{field-off:season}}
    First Sunday in Creation
    {{field-on:day}}Earth Sunday{{field-off:day}} {{field-on:year}}Year B{{field-off:year}}

     

    Old Testament  

    {{field-on:reading}}Genesis 1:1-25{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Genesis 1:1-25}}

     

    Psalm                   

    {{field-on:reading}}Psalm 33:1-9{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Psalm 33:1-9}}

     

     

    Epistle                  

    {{field-on:reading}}Romans 1:18-23{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Romans 1:18-23}}

     

    Gospel                 

    {{field-on:reading}}John 1:1-14{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= John 1:1-14}}

    [[@YearMonthDay:September 13, 2015]]
    {{field-on:date}}Sunday, September 13, 2015{{field-off:date}} | {{field-on:season}}Season of Creation{{field-off:season}}
    Second Sunday in Creation
    {{field-on:day}}Humanity Sunday{{field-off:day}} {{field-on:year}}Year B{{field-off:year}}

     

    Old Testament  

    {{field-on:reading}}Genesis 1:26-28{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Genesis 1:26-28}}

     

    Psalm                   

    {{field-on:reading}}Psalm 8{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Psalm 8}}

     

    Epistle                  

    {{field-on:reading}}Philippians 2:1-8{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Philippians 2:1-8}}

     

    Gospel                 

    {{field-on:reading}}Mark 10:41-45{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Mark 10:41-45}}

    [[@YearMonthDay:September 20, 2015]]
    {{field-on:date}}Sunday, September 20, 2015{{field-off:date}} ­| {{field-on:season}}Season of Creation{{field-off:season}}
    Third Sunday in Creation
    {{field-on:day}}Sky Sunday{{field-off:day}} {{field-on:year}}Year B{{field-off:year}}

     

    Old Testament  

    {{field-on:reading}}Jeremiah 4:23-28{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Jeremiah 4:23-28}}

     

    Psalm                   

    {{field-on:reading}}Psalm 19:1-6{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Psalm 19:1-6}}

     

    Epistle                  

    {{field-on:reading}}Philippians 2:14-18{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Philippians 2:14-18}}

     

    Gospel                 

    {{field-on:reading}}Mark 15:33-39{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Mark 15:33-39}}

    [[@YearMonthDay:September 27, 2015]]
    {{field-on:date}}Sunday, September 27, 2015{{field-off:date}} ­| {{field-on:season}}Season of Creation{{field-off:season}}
    Fourth Sunday in Creation
    {{field-on:day}}Mountain Sunday{{field-off:day}} {{field-on:year}}Year B{{field-off:year}}

     

    Old Testament  

    {{field-on:reading}}Isaiah 65:17-25{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Isaiah 65:17-25}}

     

    Psalm                   

    {{field-on:reading}}Psalm 48:1-11{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Psalm 48:1-11}}

     

    Epistle                  

    {{field-on:reading}}Romans 8:28-39{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Romans 8:28-39}}

     

    Gospel                 

    {{field-on:reading}}Mark 16:14-18{{field-off:reading}}

    {{dtext ref= Mark 16:14-18}}

     

     

     

     

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Holly Haines
    Holly Haines Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/503864#Comment_503864

    So MJ, this means that I have to add calendar dates to my lectionary readings?  Is there a way to simply tie them to the RCL calendar? 

    "Year: A; Season: Lent; Week:6

    Readings:(OT, Psalm, Epistle, Gospel)

    Call to Worship, Prayer of Confession, Assurance of Pardon, Communion Liturgy, Prayer of Dedication, Suggested Hymns, etc."

    I'm trying to get all my lectionary-based liturgy into Logos PBB so that all of it comes up whenever I look for liturgy for "Proper 11, Year C" all the right stuff comes up from all the various liturgy books and I can select what I need for planning worship.  As it is now, I have to use a particular Scripture reading to do the search (not all bad) but it doesn't give me the richness of readings for the day.  I really am not going to the trouble of calculating and adding calendar dates for the next 20 years to every book! 

    Blessings, Holly

  • tom
    tom Member Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/506037#Comment_506037

    Holly Haines said:

    this means that I have to add calendar dates to my lectionary readings? 

     

    Hi Holly, while I am not MJ, and she might have better answers than I have.  But as far as I know, you do need to have a calendar date, and as of right now, we cannot tie things to the RCL calendar.

    This has been one of my bigger issues with Logos.  Even their lectionary items are tied to a calendar date - not a lectionary date.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,946
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/506037#Comment_506037

    Holly Haines said:

    So MJ, this means that I have to add calendar dates to my lectionary readings?  Is there a way to simply tie them to the RCL calendar? 

    At the moment, yes. But Logos has been doing some work to tie the Missal/BCP to the lectionary so there may be a new datatype to help in the next few weeks.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Holly Haines
    Holly Haines Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/506137#Comment_506137

    Thanks MJ & Tom!  I look forward to the day we have an integrated Lectionary datatype!

  • Holly Haines
    Holly Haines Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/503864#Comment_503864

    MJ, I have to say, that I love your Creation Lectionary!  Is this a real example you're working on?

    Blessings, Holly

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,946
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/506150#Comment_506150

    The full creation lectionary is ~4 week/3 years. It is complete but the Logos system doesn't allow for the easy sharing of lectionaries (PB's). I'm hoping to share some soon.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,946
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/506156#Comment_506156

    See http://topics.logos.com/Year_C_Ordinary_Time_Week_16_Sunday a reading list. Add, comment, modify, suggest

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Hernando
    Hernando Member Posts: 6 ✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/503864#Comment_503864

    Since 2013, any updates on the lectionary syntax to build one a personal book?  The wiki page is not very clear and you mentioned new datatypes were coming

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