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Ronald Quick | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Jul 13 2013 9:26 AM

Since I already have the Early Church Fathers collection I was wondering how Augustine's Select Confession and Letters & Eusebius of Caesarea Collection were different from what I already have?

https://www.logos.com/product/30302/augustines-confessions-and-select-letters

https://www.logos.com/product/24989/eusebius-of-caesarea-collection

Also, the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia 1915 is shipping next week.  Any comments or recommendations for this resource?

https://www.logos.com/product/18410/the-international-standard-bible-encyclopedia-1915-edition

Thanks,

Ron

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 13 2013 10:04 AM

Ronald Quick:
Also, the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia 1915 is shipping next week.  Any comments or recommendations for this resource?

I don't have any idea how to authoritatively answer your first question.My suspicion is that these resources have gleaned writings from what you (and I) already have. Such compilations may be helpful at times, but I chose not to bid on them based on that suspicion. I do not know if my suspicions are correct (but I suspect [cough, cough] they are).

ISBE is an industry standard sort of Bible Encyclopedia. I have both the newer (revised, 1979) and the older (1915) editions of this resource. What is being released is the older one. I hid that one and find the newer one very helpful. If you already have the revised, my opinion is that you won't find much different that will be helpful in the older. The newer benefits from more recent scholarship (at least up to 1979). If you do not have the revised (1979) version, the 1915 version will probably prove helpful, some times more than others, but I would recommend one or the other (just not both).

Some prefer the older and claim it's based on a more conservative approach to Scripture. Perhaps they will provide basis for that claim. I have not found anything in the revised ISBE that made me wonder about either the scholarship nor the Biblical fidelity of the authors - at least as far as what one can gather from the articles in the resource.

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Ronald Quick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 13 2013 11:10 AM

Richard - Thanks for the reply.

I just realized that I accidentally posted this under Logos Desktop Beta instead of General.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 13 2013 12:01 PM

Ronald Quick:
I just realized that I accidentally posted this under Logos Desktop Beta instead of General.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 13 2013 1:44 PM

Ronald Quick:
Since I already have the Early Church Fathers collection I was wondering how Augustine's Select Confession and Letters & Eusebius of Caesarea Collection were different from what I already have?

The Augustine resource is the Loeb editions, so it's a different translation, and comes with the Latin text.

The Eusebius resource contains works that aren't found in the 38 volumes of the Early Church Fathers. If you want to read before you buy, they're at http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/

I picked up both on CP, but if you're interested in the Fathers, I would at least recommend Eusebius, because that's not just a different translation, but a newly available work. I got Augustine for $6 on CP, which was worth it for me. I'm not sure I'd pay $25 given that I don't know Latin.

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Simon Pleasants | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 13 2013 2:01 PM

I've just done a quick check about Augustine and Eusebius and found the following:

1. Augustine's Confessions are by different translators: the one in the Early Church Fathers collection was translated by J. G. Pilkington (published: 1886), whereas the one in the CP offering was translated by William Watts (published in 1912). I don't know which (if either) is considered the superior translation. It might be worth having both.

2. The Augustine CP offering also includes the Latin text of the Confessions (nice to have, but not much use to me) along with 62 select letters by Augustine (also including the Latin versions).

3. There appears to be no overlap between the two Eusebius collections: The Early Church Fathers collection contains his Church History and Life of Constantine, whereas the CP offering contains Proof of the Gospel, Preparation of the Gospel, Theophania, and Against Heirocles.

Hope this helps in evaluating these CP collections.

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Simon Pleasants | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 13 2013 2:45 PM

I've just noticed that the Early Church Fathers collection includes 269 letters by Augustine (translated by J. G. Cunningham). Presumably, the 62 'select' letters (translated by J. H. Baxter) in the CP collection are a subset of these. If that is the case, this collection doesn't contain any new material, only different translations along with the Latin originals.

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Ronald Quick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 13 2013 5:47 PM

I'm interested in the writings for the church fathers so I will probably pick both of them up.

Thanks for all the helpful replies.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 14 2013 2:09 PM

Simon Pleasants:
I've just noticed that the Early Church Fathers collection includes 269 letters by Augustine

Not really: "Of the two hundred and seventy-two letters given in the Benedictine edition of Augustin’s works, one hundred and sixty are translated in this selection."

Simon Pleasants:
Presumably, the 62 'select' letters ... in the CP collection are a subset of these.

Unfortunately, the product page doesn't seem to include the TOC for the Letters, so that's hard to say.

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