Prophecy Bibles in Logos.

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Fall-Guy | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Sep 22 2013 4:02 PM

Can we get some "Prophecy Bibles" in Logos?

There is the Jack Van Impe Prophecy Bible, the Prophecy Study Bible by Tim LaHaye, The Prophecy Study Bible by Doug Batchelor, the Prophecy Bible by John Hagee, and the Prophecy Bible by Rex Humbard.

I am sure there are others and I would like to get my hands on any of them in Logos.

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 22 2013 4:16 PM

I support getting these in Logos, but I'm not sure I would get any of them myself. The most useful would probably be Doug Batchelor's (I might break down and get his). If these guys agree on any point, you can be virtually certain it won't happen. But since they influence lots of folks, it wouldn't hurt to know what they're teaching.

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Fall-Guy | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 23 2013 8:30 AM

David Paul:
If these guys agree on any point, you can be virtually certain it won't happen.

I would have thought the points they had in common would be the ones that are more reliable. I was thinking of studying them in parallel. Do you have a recommendation on how a study of prophecy should be undertaken?

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Sleiman | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 24 2013 11:56 AM

Fall-Guy:
Do you have a recommendation on how a study of prophecy should be undertaken?
If you've read around the forums enough, you'd probably know how much your question is one that David will be more than delighted to answer. I'm also interested to read his response. No pressure David, right? Smile

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 24 2013 5:23 PM

I actually do have plans for a book on the approach to prophecy that I think bears good fruit. Before I can get to that, though, I will have to address some core underlying principles that keep many people from accepting prophetic concepts, both generally and specifically. I wish I could say it will be less than a year, but I doubt it. Hopefully, less than two years. I need to get about 4-6 other books out first. The good news is that most of the books that come out in the meantime will have strong prophetic themes even though they won't be directly "about doing prophecy". By "doing prophecy", I mean properly interpreting it. Prophecy is a two-part process, there is the Biblical authors' part, which is the encoding process. Then there is the decoding part, which happens now, as we approach the end. That is the Amos 3:7 part. Both are halves of the prophetic process.

Also, as time progresses, it will be made abundantly clear that anyone in recent memory (you can frame that however you like--decades, centuries...longer) who has claimed prophethood will be shown to be a de facto fraud. This will be a wide-spread, unavoidable conclusion and among the poseurs of our current day there will be a rats-escaping-the-sinking-ship routine, just as Zech. 13:4, 5 describes. The "I am a tiller of the ground" line (referencing Gen. 3:17, 18, 19) is a literal "you actually (at least I hope) don't know me from Adam"-excuse, which all of the "suddenly don't-wannabe prophets" hope everyone will buy as they try to melt into the background. The second half of Zech. 13:5, "for a man sold me as a slave in my youth", or more literally (per NASB note) "for a man caused another to buy me in my youth", actually says "Adam caused another to buy me in my youth". Essentially, the admission of these former "prophets" is that they really are after all nothing more than average schmoes, still wet behind the ears with Adam's sin, saying "please forget I ever thought to offer anyone spiritual, much less Biblical, guidance." In truth, they will be hoping their humble-posturing and poor-mouthing is seen less by the world and more by YHWH. I'm not sure it will help.

Anyway, I've got some reading to do. Just spent my $20 buck on this. It oughta be a real hoot!

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Josh | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 24 2013 9:11 PM

Here David this might help...Cool

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Fall-Guy | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 24 2013 9:46 PM

David Paul:
average schmoes, still wet behind the ears

It sounds as if you think all other students of prophecy are "wet behind the ears".  What is a fellow to look for in the Logos library to study prophecy?

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 25 2013 3:21 AM

Fall-Guy:

What is a fellow to look for in the Logos library to study prophecy?

I was visiting a friend of mine last year and he had a book I never would have picked up in a store. I flipped through it not expecting much but I realized that it actually had at least a partial grasp of some prophecy fundamentals that many prophecy "explainers" don't understand, such as some of the issues related to the concept of Biblical time. It's the Complete Idiot's Guide to the Last Days. I don't know if Logos would ever pick up something like this, since it is part of a much broader series, but it is written (as the title suggests) to be user friendly and easy to understand.

I am not whole-heartedly endorsing this, not at all, but this will at least provide you with some basics that you have to have if you are to ever stop spinning your wheels and actually start gaining ground in comprehending prophecy. This wouldn't be a bad thing to have in Logos.

Let me add this: YHWH says some things very plainly and explicitly and some things are veiled in prophecy. Generally speaking, prophecy is about the consequences for ignoring the plainly spoken things. In a sense, YHWH says, "You ignored my plain words; now I will speak to You so you can't understand Me--Mt. 7 again. The "come out of her, my people" is spoken to Christians as well as ancient Israel. The reasons both parties ended up in the same predicament are precisely the same. The best resource for understanding not just prophecy but the mind of YHWH is Scripture itself. Also, it helps mightily to have at least a basic grasp of the original languages. Start with Hebrew, and then add Greek. That's what YHWH did.

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Fall-Guy | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 25 2013 7:25 PM

David Paul:
Also, it helps mightily to have at least a basic grasp of the original languages. Start with Hebrew, and then add Greek. That's what YHWH did.

Thank you for your recommendations. I am afraid I will have to leave interpretation to others. Original languages looks so difficult.

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 25 2013 7:48 PM

I just noticed that in my previous post I referenced Mt. 7 when I meant to reference Mt. 13. Mt. 7 does have a couple of sections that address Christian error (a major theme in prophecy in both OT & NT), Mt. 7:13, 14 and Mt. 7:21, 22, 23, but I was intending to refer to Yeishuu`a's explanation for speaking in parables in Mt. 13.

Ignore the title of the book I mentioned. I'm only a partial idiot and I thought the book was worth a look. Stick out tongue

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