Romanian Bible

Logos, we have not forgotten! For 3 years users have been asking for a Romanian Bible like the public domain Cornilescu. There are many brothers in Romania that need good resources, and many people in Romania that like to prepare using Romanian materials because it is a 2nd or 3rd language and it will help them to preach in the language better. Please make this happen!

Jonathan Harper said:

Logos, we have not forgotten! For 3 years users have been asking for a Romanian Bible like the public domain Cornilescu. There are many brothers in Romania that need good resources, and many people in Romania that like to prepare using Romanian materials because it is a 2nd or 3rd language and it will help them to preach in the language better. Please make this happen!

Jonathan, thank you for expressing your support for a Romanian language Bible on your very first post! :-). Let's hope someone on the Logos side will finally make this happen.  We've been waiting for this far too long.

Grace and peace!

In case it is useful for anyone, here is a Personal Book of the Cornilescu Bible. I don't remember where I got the text from, all I have done is reformatted it for Logos. There may be some errors. It has English book names, and uses the English word 'chapter', but perhaps someone could translate it and re-upload a revised copy.

5773.Cornilescu Bible.docx

George said:

Mark Barnes said:

In case it is useful for anyone, here is a Personal Book of the Cornilescu Bible. I don't remember where I got the text from, all I have done is reformatted it for Logos. There may be some errors. It has English book names, and uses the English word 'chapter', but perhaps someone could translate it and re-upload a revised copy.

The version you provided had 4 missing chapters in 1 Peter.  I added the missing chapters and I also used the Romanian book titles instead of the English ones.  Here is the file:

0537.Biblia - Traducerea Cornilescu.docx 

A few more verses were missing in 1 Peter chapter 1.  I added those as well.  Here is the corrected file:

1385.Biblia - Traducerea Cornilescu.docx

And the other two I mentioned before:

There is a Cornilescu red letter version with modernized words and spelling here:
http://community.logos.com/forums/p/34051/297169.aspx#297169

And a crude version of the Eastern Orthodox version here:

http://community.logos.com/forums/p/79489/558131.aspx#558131

Grace and peace!

Several years past since this post and Logos is not very concerned about a Romanian version of the Bible. I have written some e-mails to them and after many attempts I received an email with the idea to have a Romanian bible as a personal book. But this is of not much help. It does not help to link it with commentaries and other projects at work. I don t know why there is not a desire to provide for a Romanian Translation. There is now several of them: Noua Traducere Romana (NTR), Cornilescu are one of the most useful. 

We are in the 8 years later since the thread started and no progress still!!! Logos was at iteration 4! And my colleague that initially started this thread is already past Logos in his daily use, he moved on and invested much more in Accordance. I am on discouraged on investing more in Logos  seeing this level of commitment for international Bibles is underwhelming and disheartening.

I am unsure as to how this financial side of things seems to be the motivating factor.
I sincerely doubt that the users of Romanian language would be fewer than some of the readers of the languages for which Logos has a Bible.

I tend to believe that we would have to be lobbying and see if we could escalate the matter and push it further with increased pressure. In simpler terms, the addition of the Romanian Bible would add greater functionality and internal integration for our needs, making the software more relevant, we all know this.

What we could do is to keep this thread bubbling and make sure it's visible. If we can get other people to add their voices here, maybe we have a better chance of actually being heard. Adding a Romanian Bible can't possibly be this hard. Let's offer the incentive. Methinks that allowing us to actually evangelize according to Mt 28:19-21, Acts 1:8, Logos should have had at least 1 version of the Bible available in all the languages that have a full translation.

Below is the list of the languages in which Logos has Bibles to offer, currently. To argue that each of these languages have a user-community that is larger than the Romanian speaking user-community I anticipate to be forced at best, wishful thinking or prefabricated marketing response to keep calm and carry on.

English (211)
Greek (79)
Chinese (41)
German (32)
Hebrew (30)
Spanish (17)
Portuguese (16)
French (15)
Afrikaans (11)
Korean (9)
Latin (8)
Coptic (6)
Syriac (5)
Dutch (4)
Norwegian (4)
Czech (2)
Russian (2)
Albanian (1)
Arabic (1)
Danish (1)
Esperanto (1)
Finnish (1)
Hungarian (1)
Italian (1)
Japanese (1)
Maori (1)
Serbian (1)
Thai (1)
Ukrainian (1)

Thank you Jon, 
I have read your message after you wrote it have thought about it a bit, investigated it offline (and after reading again the search results on "romanian bible" on this forum it is really hard for me not to rant), and checked the required work to be done. 

And let me ask: What you suggested above implies that all the Bibles in the list above, say Esperanto and Albanian or Norwegian or Serbian have had this this work done for them, and only after this process has been done were said Bibles "approved/fit to be included in Logos"? What's your take here?

Jon, I realise your best intentions, but since you mentioned this I want to expand the prespective a bit also for the administrative Logos/Faithlife eyes that eventually may look here, while coming back to the actual work and effort you suggested. 

I may offer a bit of context as I researched what this entails. I do have friends and colleagues that work by their own volition to do that (word allignement btw languages and versions) for Accordance, and it is no small feat and they have been engaged it it for a while now. They are great scholars and the work is requiring masoretic level of attention and tediousness, to use an accessible figure of speech. Accordance has been common-sensical, and let me underline this, although the project has been proposed bottom up - that is from users, Accordance is willing to support their effort and reward them with resources inside Accordance for their own benefit, of their choice that would compensate the work-hours invested in this effort. Accordance is the one here to capitalise on their user-base productively.

I really do want to bring this into perspective and compare this with the approach: "Please do that for free, and maybe then this can be included..." seems ... capitalistic and exploitative. Of course you didn't intend it to be perceived this way. That would make the offer in turn be a sort of ... an expensive bait for Logos from us interested parties (this could be read informally and streetwise along these imaginary lines: "C'mon guys, see, they went to all this trouble, they did all the work, now please be willing to include it in the software, that's the only favour they are asking, surely you could do that..."). Then the medicine would become more expensive than the illness - so to speak. Which would be a no-go.

If Logos would be so generous, only including simply the Bible as an un-aligned book, that would alternatively work, as verses are reasonably aligned still - if there are actually Logos supported Bible versions that can be included that way. And the latter, better version, could be worked upon in time, but in a more rewarding way, and maybe with an if. Still thanks for looking at this.

Another thing would be to gather all the Romanian speaking users of Logos and petition them officially in throngs, at customer-service, since the Forums doesn't receive that much of official attention. Still thinking of how to do that.