Not promoting another company's deals but
Yeah, you are.
Just ordered a book about Bonhoeffer for$5.59 as printed matter ½ hour ago (addition to an existing open order and it didn't add any postage) after someone suggesting on Christianforums.com who said some of them are public domain (I haven't checked if they actually are legally public domain). EDIT: But the book I ordered is not a public domain book, I doubted that the person on Christianforums was suggesting something he knew as being fully allowed. Also reported this thread by Paul.
I'm tired at buying books in Bible Study software, I don't have that particular software You talked about in Your first version of Your opening post, Paul, and I would not pay $180 just for works by one author.
Bonhoeffer Works is not in public domain, and this price is a good price.
I used Mark Smith's post here http://community.logos.com/forums/t/75596.aspx?PageIndex=1 as a template for mine. He should know, I would think, what is and is not appropriate to post. Double standard, anyone?
$180 is a good price. $500 is not.
Are you saying MVPs never make mistakes?
Not one person complained about Mark's post
I just now scolded Mark too. I am sorry you felt singled out.
I wouldn't let the forum Gestapo bother you too much. I never do.
There are Bonhoeffer ebooks available to read for free on the internet. I read one last week. That doesn't mean they are in public domain, though.
[:D] Michael, that is priceless [H]
Forgive my insensitivity. While I agree with the sentiment, the choice for comparison was inappropriate.
I wouldn't let the forum Gestapo bother you too much. I never do. Michael, that is priceless
Michael, that is priceless
So , I am a Nazi for caring about the stupid forum guidelines? Funny.
How?
I found it extremely rude, as well as a whole lot of other things. Like insensitive to those who fell victims to the real Gestapo. Like just plain stupid, because when we get used to language like that, we have no language left to warn about the next budding 'Gestapo'.
If this thread shows anything, I would think it shows the value of the thankless job those do who do follow the guideline to "help others follow these guidelines". When no one wants to do that job, posts that slip by because of it are suddenly seen as models for others to follow, and the next we know everything is allowed.
Michael, I'm reporting your post as abuse. If calling others 'Gestapo' is OK, then guideline number 3 is a joke, and we can just skip the guidelines altogether.
And, Jack, I thought better of you.
As usual, you are correct. I apologize for my insensitivity.
OK. I feel better now! ;o) The real question, though, is how to explain the price difference. I'd definitely pay more to have BW in my Logos library. The tagging in Logos, from what I understand, is more sophisticated than people realize. But a $300 difference in price is hard to fathom. Any insight into what accounts for the disparity?
No one explains prices in detail, but there typically are a number of factors to consider:
The Logos price will be their cost to produce plus a revenue surplus.
Regardless of cost, in order to not crowd out their dead-tree sales, publishers may request Logos to charge no less than $XYZ - but then they may not be obliged to put the same request on other bible software companies. This taken together may mean that even if Logos could sell more than twice as much at half the price, it might mean generating much less or even negative revenue, maybe even breach of contract, if they were to lower their prices that much.
Logos is the premier bible software company (in Germany we'd say "the Mercedes of bible software") which means the prices for everything tend to be a bit higher than elsewhere, reflecting the necessary investment of the company into its product but also the fact that the installed base is smaller. This in turn will also mean that the calculation factors I gave for the cost side will be different for a less sophisticated company with an installed base into the millions.
On top of this, bible software companies as well as publishers may use certain products as loss-leaders to attract new customers or introduce existing customers to new/higher value levels of products. Maybe this is what you were seeing elsewhere. It may as well be that the publisher re-thought their approach to digital editions and their pricing - and then Logos could perhaps re-negotiate.
Dan Pritchett wrote a very thorough response to the question of posts about other software companies. I believe it applies here.
Even though Dan's response is a few years old it is still excellent and worth reading and understanding.
I wouldn't let the forum Gestapo bother you too much. I never do. Michael, that is priceless How? I found it extremely rude, as well as a whole lot of other things. Like insensitive to those who fell victims to the real Gestapo. Like just plain stupid, because when we get used to language like that, we have no language left to warn about the next budding 'Gestapo'. If this thread shows anything, I would think it shows the value of the thankless job those do who do follow the guideline to "help others follow these guidelines". When no one wants to do that job, posts that slip by because of it are suddenly seen as models for others to follow, and the next we know everything is allowed. Michael, I'm reporting your post as abuse. If calling others 'Gestapo' is OK, then guideline number 3 is a joke, and we can just skip the guidelines altogether. And, Jack, I thought better of you.
I bet you hated that ole TV program "Hogan's Heroes". That is more the Gestapo that I was thinking of. That was probably a poor choice, and not the last poor choice I will make.
So I will "Nip it in the bud!" I retract my "Gestapo" comment, and the intended humorous hyperbole.
I certainly wouldn't want to appear arrogant, or judgmental, or like I thought I was in charge of this forum.
And I am sorry that I offended you so much.
The difference is clear, keep the conversation about Logos, and not an advertisement for, or link to, the other companies and products.
Not an advertisement? What is a competitive ad if not describing a product, a sale price, and where to buy it and to show Logos in a negative light for being more expensive?
Gentlemen do not dine at a lady's table while complementing another lady's cooking skills as superior to their hostess. This forum is Logos' table.
