Another deficiency in searching

George Somsel
George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

I just noted that another feature present in L3 is missing in L4 (besides a working morphological search).  This is the BDAG search.  It is no longer possible to search the differing materials included in the entries.  In L3 we could search such areas as "All Text", "Extended Definition", "Formal Equivalent."

george
gfsomsel

יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

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  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    OK, so this can still be done if you are privy to the esoterica of the syntax to accomplish this.  I still say "Bring on the clowns" -- Errr, "Bring back the check boxes."  I don't wish to plough through documentation to find this information.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    George, you wouldn't be suggesting that we should have a simple tool that makes everything simple, rather than spend a lot of time learning how to do it better, would you? Sounds like a good argument for reverse interlinears to me! [:P]

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  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Incidentally, I should add that you don't need to plow through documentation to find out about this. All the searchable fields are listed in the information panel of every resource, under (surprise, surprise) "search fields".

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  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭


    George, you wouldn't be suggesting that we should have a simple tool that makes everything simple, rather than spend a lot of time learning how to do it better, would you? Sounds like a good argument for reverse interlinears to me! Stick out tongue


    If I wanted to program, as I once did,  I would get a manual for the language and learn the various commands.  Since I am actually more interested in understanding the biblical text than in programming, yes, I do want a simple tool.  To equate a semi-programming language vs. a simple interface with the use of an interlinear is not a true comparison in any sense.  With an interlinear one pretends to benefit from the use of the original language rather than actually learning the original language.  It would be better to choose a reliable commentator (or more) who can comment on the original than to pretend to understand the original through the use of an interlinear.  I really think, however, that you are simply yanking my chain. 

    george
    gfsomsel

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  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    I really think, however, that you are simply yanking my chain. 

    Who, me? [A]

    But seriously, learning to look at the information panel to see what search fields are available, and then typing those search fields into a search bar can hardly be equated with a 'semi-programming language'. And FWIW, I hated all those tickboxes in L3, and avoided using them. Each to their own.

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  • Donovan R. Palmer
    Donovan R. Palmer Member, MVP Posts: 2,928

    As much as I don't mind personally learning the data types, it would be cool at some point in the future to have kind of a graphical query editor for collections. (It wouldn't be that hard to do because we have had them for aspects of Bible software for ages) The reason I ask this is that I think many would more than likely use this feature if there was one.