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BriM | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Dec 1 2013 6:05 AM

I just got a new tablet and downloaded the Bible app to it. However, unlike my phone, it shows an advert page on startup rather than going straight to my library. I can't find a way to disable this although I guess there will be one somewhere.

Any clues?

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Dale Eads | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 2 2013 10:35 AM

With the new (4.0) version of the app, Logos made the decision to always show the "Home" screen on app startup.  There is no way of changing that setup.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 2 2013 10:40 AM

Dale Eads:

With the new (4.0) version of the app, Logos made the decision to always show the "Home" screen on app startup.  There is no way of changing that setup.

As far as I can see the app opens to where it was when closed.

Are you seeing something different?

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Dale Eads | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 3 2013 8:51 AM

Your app may still be running in the background then.  I use an app called Greenify to close (well, hibernate) most of my running apps when I lock the screen to conserve battery life.  Any time I open my Logos app after that, it always opens up to the Home screen.  By default, when you open a new instance of the app, it will do that.

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BriM | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 3 2013 12:51 PM

I really think this is a big step backwards.

I paid a lot for the app (by means of the resources of course) and now I'm forced to pay more for:

a) the extra data download to populate the advert screen;

b) the loss of time waiting for (a);

c) the power draw in downloading and displaying the adverts.

There is nothing I look at on the screen and I wish they'd reinstate the earlier behaviour.

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Gabe Martin | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 3 2013 2:06 PM

The home screen does include news and app specific blog posts and some of these news messages and/or blog posts include suggested resources you may or may not have access to.

On each of the messages there is an option to hide it from the home screen if you don't want to see it. You can hide the message without viewing the full content by tapping on the hide option.

BriM:

a) the extra data download to populate the advert screen;

The amount of data transferred for news / blog feed updates is small. Less than your typical image.

BriM:

b) the loss of time waiting for (a);

The news and blog feed data is downloaded and updated in the background and should never cause you to have to wait in the app.

BriM:

c) the power draw in downloading and displaying the adverts.

As I mentioned above the amount of data requested for news / blog feeds is minimal. This data was also requested/transferred in the earlier version of the app as well.

BriM:

There is nothing I look at on the screen and I wish they'd reinstate the earlier behaviour.

Along with news / blog feed updates the home screen also includes useful info like Daily Readings (Reading plans, daily devotionals), Verse Of the Day, Recent resource downloads/updates. Additional content is being considered for future releases to make the home screen content even more exciting.

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Willie Buck Merle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 3 2013 7:07 PM

Hope everyone is doing well. Isn't VOTD (verse of the day) kinda biggish? just saying.

-wbm

ps. also you can't press it and go to that particular verse within the bible app.

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Kevin Byford (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 3 2013 8:57 PM

Willie Buck Merle:
Hope everyone is doing well. Isn't VOTD (verse of the day) kinda biggish? just saying.

We're working on a way to match the image size to the device resolution... stay tuned.

Willie Buck Merle:
ps. also you can't press it and go to that particular verse within the bible app.

I will write up a case for this.  On iOS, tapping on the VotD gives you the options to copy the image, Add it to Favorites (not working, known issue), Share it to Faithlife, Email, Twitter or Facebook, or Save it to Photos.  What's missing is the choice to open the verse.  Thanks for your input!

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BriM | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 3 2013 10:44 PM

Gabe Martin:
On each of the messages there is an option to hide it from the home screen if you don't want to see it. You can hide the message without viewing the full content by tapping on the hide option.

Thanks for your reply Gabe.

I had actually tried pressing the hide options but I found that I couldn't reliably hit exactly the right spot. Sometimes it thought I was clicking on the advert and it opened up the whole message, which sort of defeated my object.

But are you saying that, if I hide every advert that is currently showing, I'll never see an advert again? If so that would be worth doing. I suspect though that you mean I'll never see that particular message again but that I'll see other adverts when they get added. That is death by a thousand cuts.

I'd love to see an option to either see the home screen or not to see it, just like the main logos app has. That way, those who love it can have it whilst those (like me) who hate it can avoid it. I see from another thread that others also would prefer not to see this screen so I'm not alone in this. Probably worth a five-star review if you can sort this please ...

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SgtJohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 4 2013 1:49 PM

BriM:

I'd love to see an option to either see the home screen or not to see it, just like the main logos app has. That way, those who love it can have it whilst those (like me) who hate it can avoid it. I see from another thread that others also would prefer not to see this screen so I'm not alone in this. Probably worth a five-star review if you can sort this please ...

Yes Yes 

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 4 2013 1:53 PM

John Matuszyk:

BriM:

I'd love to see an option to either see the home screen or not to see it, just like the main logos app has. That way, those who love it can have it whilst those (like me) who hate it can avoid it. I see from another thread that others also would prefer not to see this screen so I'm not alone in this. Probably worth a five-star review if you can sort this please ...

Yes Yes 

Yes  Yes  Yes   Just want the option to start the app and get on to the Read page. Please give some users the same option as on desktop:

1. Users with base packages?

2. Or users who have manually set the option "At Startup Open To"?

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Tim Hensler | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 5 2013 4:47 AM

BriM:
I'd love to see an option to either see the home screen or not to see it, just like the [desktop] logos app has.

YesYes

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 5 2013 6:55 AM

I'm on the iOS side and I haven't seen the home screen yet on startup (from background or delete and restart). I hope it remains that way, else I'll have to go back to Libronix (the next best software ever written of course).  Hopefully Bob will keep his poor behavioral habits limited to the PC/Mac.

Developers that want to force communication are not smart (literally).

Angering a potential customer is smart when impacted customers are here today, gone tomorrow. Then it's a percentage game (like telephone adverts).  Use them, loose them.  I suspect that's Logos' strategy.

I have some other apps that put 'emails' in their app. That's kind of stupid too, since most are update info (which I see anyway from Apple) and of course cutie-pie info.   You wonder who does their 'marketing'.

"God will save his fallen angels and their broken wings He'll mend."

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 5 2013 8:20 PM

Well, my faith in Logos iOS is happily restored (obviously it's not too steadfast). 

Searching for how to turn off my Go game's participation in Game Center, I noticed both Logos iOS and Vyrso include a option to turn-off the opening Home screen. Settings > scroll waaaay down to Logos/Vyrso. Whew!  I was afraid I'd have to bring back Libronix from the land of Mot.

I wonder if Android has a similar set of options?

"God will save his fallen angels and their broken wings He'll mend."

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Willie Buck Merle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 6 2013 12:28 PM

KB & co, thanx for your reply. I think when you guys do make those opening screen settings best to include the bypass :) Just saying, gathered from this threads vibe.

I don't mind it at all if it were more low-key (loads faster too). Keep up the great work on the apps, much appreciated.

-wbm

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BriM | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 8 2013 7:45 AM

Denise:

Searching for how to turn off my Go game's participation in Game Center, I noticed both Logos iOS and Vyrso include a option to turn-off the opening Home screen. Settings > scroll waaaay down to Logos/Vyrso. Whew!  I was afraid I'd have to bring back Libronix from the land of Mot.

I wonder if Android has a similar set of options?

Thanks Denise. I found the options you refer to on my iPad but there don't seem to be the same ones on Android. As the interfaces appear to be the same as far as I can tell I wonder whether this is just an oversight?

At any rate, I can't see why they would give Apple owners the chance to get rid of the advert screen but not give Android fans the same choice.

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Dave Dunkin (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 9 2013 8:01 AM

The "Start at homepage" setting on iOS forces the app to start at the home screen on the next run. This is useful in cases where there is a particular resource that causes the app to crash.

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 10 2013 1:39 PM

The feature to skip the opening screen was not included in 4.0.9 stable.

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Kevin Byford (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 10 2013 1:46 PM

Lee:

The feature to skip the opening screen was not included in 4.0.9 stable.

This is correct, because the feature hasn't yet been implemented in the beta version from which the stable release derives.

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Willie Buck Merle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 10 2013 2:26 PM

Just thoughts, everybody please ignore if too inane (of course):

-bible app-
1. You guys buried the 'READ' button in the side menu. It should be on the front page, readily visible and ready to be pressed.
2. I completely understand the point of messaging on the frontpage. So I'm ok with that. "Maybe I can get a deal on a bible pack" intrigue.
3. The VotD is interesting, if it were useful to me (ie press-and-go direct to that scripture).
4. I'm a highlighting fiend. That is the money-play for me with this great app of yours. You guys have 'notes' by the kind of notes... when it should be 'notes' by the particular kind of highlight.
5. For some reason or other I never crack open Faithlife or Vyrso. My bad. Maybe if there were some way of Youtube-ization of Faithlife? Like post a commentary or picture and have it commented upon? Peeps post bible vids on youtube and get commented upon.

Happy Holidays!
wbm

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