Help!! using the Qumran Biblical Dead Sea Scrolls Database

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kyle lammott | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Feb 27 2014 10:36 AM

I see the great benefit of having the Qumran Biblical Dead Sea Scrolls Database, however I am unable to figure out how to use it effectively. 

Right now I am studying Gen 12:2 and would like to do a comparison between the samarian Septuagint, the LXX and the BHS.  The Samarian Septuagint is part of the Qumran database but I have no clue how to research these resources efficiently or effectively.   Any help would be great!  thank you!

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 27 2014 10:43 AM

The generic easy way is to just link the DSS Biblical index volume to the other Bibles (LXX, MT, etc). Below the DSS index, central left.

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But specifically the 'Samarian' LXX, you'd link the specific text-volume.  I presume we're not talking about the Samaritan Penteteuch.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 27 2014 10:59 AM

That's some setup Denise. Wow, 12 windows. Just think what you could do with multiple large-screen monitors. Smile

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kyle lammott | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 27 2014 11:07 AM

Opps, Denise, I did mean the Samaritan Pentateuch, I only first heard about it today.  Is there a way to link to that as well?

Thanks so much!

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 27 2014 11:12 AM

Kyle, Logos doesn't have the SP (I think it was on pre-pub for a while but most of the Samaritans at time were not using Logos ... I'm joking).  

It is available at Another Bible Software Co. But frankly the recently published 'Israelite Samaritan Version of the Torah' by Tsedak is nice; if you're rusty on your english, there's also a hebrew version.

Bruce, as crazy as the computer world is becoming, this morning I was down in our shop putting the final touches on the dual iPad holder display for the Swedish organs (several apps).  I foresee the day when the church organist has 5-6 iPads linked up and the pastor has to borrow a couple!

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kyle lammott | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 27 2014 11:14 AM

If you don't mind me asking... How did you search all those resources?? did you create a collection or did you choose each volume individually?

I often feel like I don't know where to look for the information I want.

Thanks for the help

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kyle lammott | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 27 2014 11:16 AM

Ohh.. I thought it was apart of the DSS. bummer!

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 27 2014 11:22 AM

Kyle ... I'm impressed you're digging around on how to proceed.  That's great!  One of the things I really like about Logos, is that (usually) they have a broad grouping of source texts to use.  

The screen above was built as part of a layout, and so everything is 'carefully' arranged (except for the Targums where you can't get the fonts any smaller!).

But I'm sure you'll love proceeding forward with all the various Old Testament source comparisons.  My favorite remains the Targums which hint at a third 'leg' for comparisons to the MT (LXX, Samaritan, Targums).  The Peshitta tends to track the LXX, so it's periodically 'boring'.  The Talmud and Philo OT quotes texts are also interesting for hints at what they were quoting from.

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kyle lammott | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 27 2014 11:33 AM

Ok, How does it work when there are so many volumes in the Targums, how do you know which one(s) to put in the custom layout?  Are there indexers for these different collections?

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 27 2014 11:40 AM

Logos has what they call a 'series'. The Targums are a 'series'.  So if you link a single one of them to the MT, then type another passage in the MT, Logos will switch out to the correct targum (eg moving the Targum Psalms to Onkelos when you type in Gen 5.1).

The DSS Biblical are similar. The problem there is that you'll want to see all the fragments associated with a specific passage (thus using the index).

I don't know if you use the NT, but if so, the papyri fragments are handled similar to the DSS Biblical.

The 'downside' to Logos handling series automatically, is that they don't take your settings from the older to the newer. So each time I go to a different targum, I have to re-set the font size etc. 

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kyle lammott | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 27 2014 11:44 AM

Thank you so much!!  I might pick your brain a bit more later if you don't mind.

Blessings,

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