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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Apr 6 2014 3:18 AM

I have been dreaming of having an E-Ink Android tablet or e-reader that could run the Logos app and other text-intensive apps. Well, the time may be upon us! Check out www.meetearl.com. Earl is an E-ink Android tablet that runs Android 4.1. It has all the usual Android tablet features, including a backlight for the display. But it's also designed for use outdoors, on hikes and such, so it has GPS, maps, a radio, and can give you your weather (including temp, humidity, wind speed and dew point). It's a little more expensive than your average Android tablet or e-reader, at $299, but for all it can do, it's a bargain - especially if you love the outdoors. It's not yet ready for shipping, but may be later this spring. 

Another option, for those who have the Kobo Aura HD, is a hack that allows you to run Android 2.3 off a microSD card. The info is here:http://angor00.blogspot.ru/2014/02/booting-android-from-external-sd-on.html

I believe that Logos and E-Ink would make a great team. E-Ink is easier on the eyes than an LCD or similar display. If neither of the above options appeals to you, encourage other companies, like Nook or Kindle or Kobo, to offer such a device. The Nook e-readers run Android, but 2.1, too "old" for Logos even if you root the device.

Also, if Earl and any other such devices are successful, perhaps Logos could tweak the app to look even better on an E-Ink screen.   

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Steve Nicholson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 6 2014 3:32 AM

I would absolutely love to run Logos Android on my Kobo Aura (not HD).

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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 6 2014 3:41 AM

Sadly, that hack doesn't work on the Aura, because (correct me if I'm wrong) the Aura lacks a microSD slot. Someone else figured out how to do something similar for the Aura, I believe, but you'd have to open your device and play with the internal SD card. That's pretty chancy.  

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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 6 2014 4:27 AM

I found an update on the Earl site. It will run Android 4.4. Even better!  

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NYSERVANT | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 7 2014 7:41 AM

  I am very interested in this also.  Does anyone have any experience other than running it on the nook.  I'm considering the aura hd.

  Here are some others that are out and are coming soon:  

   http://www.prestigioplaza.com/catalogue/Multireaders/PER5364BC

   https://onyx-boox.com/productsinfo/onyx-boox-c65-afterglow/

   https://onyx-boox.com/coming-soon-e-ink-news/onyx-boox-t-68/

Any thoughts?

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NYSERVANT | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 7 2014 7:46 AM

  Another way I've done it is by running team viewer and project from my computer screen to my nook so I can read from my desktop version.

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NYSERVANT | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 7 2014 7:59 AM

Wow you can get the prestigio from amazon uk for pretty cheap too

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Prestigio-eBook-Reader-Android-Sandwich/dp/B00EOPBT02/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1396882721&sr=1-1&keywords=prestigio+reader

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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 7 2014 8:49 AM

They look promising, but as far as I know, they aren't available in the USA - though you can get the Prestigio in Canada. If I'm wrong, great!

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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 7 2014 8:50 AM

NYSERVANT:

  Another way I've done it is by running team viewer and project from my computer screen to my nook so I can read from my desktop version.

I didn't think you could run the team viewer app on a Nook Simple Touch. Can you? How well does it work? I have an NST, and that would be a good solution.  

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NYSERVANT | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 7 2014 10:15 AM

You can buy it with the above link to the amazon uk.  I went as far as paying for it and it seemed to work fine shipping to me in the U.S.  

You can also order the onyx boox from the website I gave there.  I think i've also seen that on ebay from time to time.  

Yes Team Viewer works but in a VERY limited way.  I use it by having team viewer focus on the left side of the screen where I position one of my logos windows.  When I want to read something for a long period of time during my study, rather than a quick glance, I put it in that window and then I read it on the nook.  I have to control everything from my keyboard but I just have to hit the space bar anyway.  

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Steve Nicholson | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 7 2014 7:04 PM

Mark, the Aura (like the Aura HD) has a micro SD card slot.

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Randy W. Sims | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 7 2014 7:38 PM

Mark Nolette:
Check out www.meetearl.com. Earl is an E-ink Android tablet that runs Android 4.1.

Thanks for mentioning this. I will definitely keep an eye on it. It may scratch a number of itches.

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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 8 2014 12:40 PM

Well, I can now scratch one itch. My new Kobo Aura HD arrived yesterday. Today, I was able to set up Android (Gingerbread, 2.3.4) on an external microSD card and get it to run. The Logos and Verbum apps work! I downloaded a couple of resources and did a Passage Guide. It's a bit slower than a Nexus 7 would be, there is the occasional E-Ink screen refresh, and some of the color schemes don't look as nice on a "black-and-white" E-Ink display, but the app is definitely usable. Yes, reading resources works best of all, as you would expect. You can find the needed files and instructions on mobileread.com (look for the Android on Kobo thread) or look for Angor's blog. Yes, this will work on the Kobo Glo and Touch as well (different image files, of course). They don't seem to have it working on the Aura (non-HD) yet.  

Non-Logos observations: Some apps work better than others. YMMV. Text in the Nook app looks uneven, like the page was a window with several cracks in it. The Kindle app from XDA, tweaked to look better on E-Ink, works well. The Gingerbread image includes some e-reader apps that were tweaked a bit for E-Ink. Play Store works reasonably well, with an occasional bug. These things aren't a big deal to me, as my main point in this was to see if I can get Logos and some other text-intensive apps on an E-Ink display - and here it is. With Calibre, I can easily take my Nook or Kindle books and put them on the Kobo stock reader. I can report again after a week or so. For now, though, it is promising.  

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NYSERVANT | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 8 2014 8:34 PM

Mark I'm so glad to hear that.  I just ordered my aura hd, maybe I'll try to shoot a video of the install.  Any way to see some video of how logos runs on it?

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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 9 2014 1:07 AM

I've never done a video like that. I'll see what I can do. No promises! 

I like the the way that Logos runs in general. Even though everything is in grayscale and not color, that isn't generally an issue. A passage guide runs well, especially when your resources have been downloaded. It's a little slower than a Nexus 7 would be, but not by much. You may want to adjust text settings to optimize your display for the Aura HD. 

Installation of the Android image on the microSD card is a three step process. You'll find it on Angor's blog or the mobileread site. You'll need something like WinImage (free) (assuming you have a Windows system) to restore the image to the card. Then you need partitioning software (I use MiniTool, also free) to set the partitions correctly. Make sure you have at least 30 mb of unallocated space in the front of the card, or you won't be able to boot into Android! Then there are two files to download and place on the Aura HD itself. If all goes well, you'll be in Android in 5-10 minutes. Then you may want to change the language in Settings (Angor is Russian), but a post on the blog shows you whee and how. Play Store is a bit glitchy, but that isn't an issue for me. I was able to download and run Logos, and that was all I wanted! 

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NYSERVANT | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 9 2014 7:37 PM

So all these directions at angor's blog are way over my head...any way you can simplify it for me?  I downloaded the two programs you said there.  I am having trouble with the SD card process.

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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 10 2014 4:00 AM

Have you ever worked with image or partition software before? If not, then you may need a step-by-step guide for the whole process. The ideal thing is if you know someone who is the local "computer geek" and who could walk you through it all in person. If not, I can write up something for you, though it may be a fairly long post. I could email it to you directly. If all goes well, i could do it later today. If not, it may be a couple of days before I get to it.  

There is an easier solution, if all you want to do is read your Logos resources on your Aura HD. On your home page, touch the little icon with three horizontal lines that's next to your battery indicator. Touch Settings, then Beta Features, then find Web Browser at the bottom, and touch Start. Then, go to Biblia.com, and log into your account. You can zoom in with the buttons at the bottom of the page. Then you can find and read any of your resources. It can't do passage guides or word studies, though. 

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NYSERVANT | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 10 2014 7:49 AM

  Hi Mark, I have never worked with partition software before...I have followed video directions on rooting my nook simple touch and one of my old android phones.  I understand the concept of partitioning and I am computer literate.  But this seems much more complicated.

  I purchased the aura hd so I could highlight.  That was the major reason I wanted one that ran 2.3.  So the biblia.com wouldn't work well for me.  I am sure the directions would help anyone else who needed help with it too :)

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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 10 2014 10:23 AM

Makes sense to me. It's been a busy day, but I'll put something together when I get a chance. Since it's on this board, I won't presume anything, but just do it step-by-step so that anyone who would be using a forum like this should be able to follow it easily. (Well, at least I hope it will be clear!)

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NYSERVANT | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 11 2014 7:26 AM

Thanks!  I will be trying it out in the meantime.  

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