What are your prioritized top five suggestions for Logos?

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Don Awalt | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 10 2014 12:35 PM

Better support in tagging for devotionals, so for example it's easy to pick a book meant to be read throughout Lent and either read it simply as a devotional or as a reading plan- some of the Lenten resources that came out were impossible to read properly on a day by day basis, either as devotional or reading plan. 

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Nick Steffen | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 10 2014 12:45 PM

elnwood:
But if you wanted Logos to prioritize, which suggestions are THE most important for you?

I hope they will prioritize the backend work necessary to make the texts available to third party e-readers, speedreaders, and to whatever other new approaches the industry develops.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 10 2014 2:15 PM

Donnie Hale:

Michael Childs:
5.  Word Biblical Commentary updates

Two folks have mentioned WBC updates. We just got many MB of WBC updates a couple of months ago. What further updates are required?

Donnie

I'm sorry, I meant WBC upgrades (e.g. Acts volume and Job part 3 and the other revised versions that have been lingering in pre-pub for quite sometime now).  I really wish that, at least, Acts part 1 was out since I'll start teaching Acts in a couple of weeks.  I have plenty of material but wouldn't mind seeing what WBC on Acts has to offer.

DAL

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Fr. Charles R. Matheny | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 11 2014 7:11 AM

1. Better coding for OSX users.

2. Better use of system memory and memory leaks.

3. Less dependance on Logos servers.

4. Faster/more efficient search functions ( though better now, can still be improved).

5. Orthodox Resources.

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Donnie Hale | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 11 2014 8:19 AM

DAL:
I really wish that, at least, Acts part 1 was out since I'll start teaching Acts in a couple of weeks.

I'm teaching through Acts now - finishing chapter 18 this week, Lord willing. It is a bit strange not having a WBC resource to turn to. But there are a bunch of other very good ones, BECNT being at the top of my list. And the Zondervan Exegetical Commentary on Acts just came out in Logos yesterday. Seems quite good so far. Bruce from the NICNT is very weak, IMO.

Enjoy it - it's a great book to teach from!

Donnie

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 11 2014 8:38 AM

Donnie Hale:

DAL:
I really wish that, at least, Acts part 1 was out since I'll start teaching Acts in a couple of weeks.

I'm teaching through Acts now - finishing chapter 18 this week, Lord willing. It is a bit strange not having a WBC resource to turn to. But there are a bunch of other very good ones, BECNT being at the top of my list. And the Zondervan Exegetical Commentary on Acts just came out in Logos yesterday. Seems quite good so far. Bruce from the NICNT is very weak, IMO.

Enjoy it - it's a great book to teach from!

Donnie

Yes, BECNT is at the top of my list too along with PNTC! They're both awesome volumes.  I must agree with you, F.F. Bruce is not what I expected it to be, but it's useful nonetheless.  I have it in Spanish.  One hidden underestimated jewel is Holman's NT Commentary on Acts.  Helps me get my wheels turning when it comes to applications along with Preaching the Word on Acts.

Question for you: What were you conclusions/findings on why Paul shaved his head? (Since coincidentally you'll be finishing Acts 18 and this incident is found in Acts 18).  I haven't even started Acts and some members are already asking me about that and why Timothy was circumcised and why Titus was not, if we're not supposed to be under the rituals of the Old Law, etc.  

It's going to be a great study and I'm really looking forward to it.

DAL

Ps. (Disclaimer): This is not to ask for a theological debate, just for your conclusions/findings on the issue, that's all.

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Donnie Hale | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 11 2014 10:25 AM

DAL:
Question for you

Can we take this offline? I'm more than happy to answer those questions - I did address them explicitly. Just don't want to go too far afield in the forums.

donnie  haleonline  net

A @ and a . go in there someplace. ;)

Donnie

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Don Awalt | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 13 2014 8:26 AM

I have not put in 5 yet, here is my second one; I REALLY hope Logos considers this.

Does anyone use Cited By?

1. To configure what collections show takes forever - when you click the little arrow left of the title, it delays a long time before the dialog drops down. I have a very fast computer and it takes about 6 seconds to drop down.

2. It takes so long because HUNDREDS of things are under "collections" - collections and mytags at least.

3. The list of things to turn on and off ("Collections") is not organized alphabetically - it is for awhile, but collections and mytags are interspersed. What's the logic to the order of the list?

4. Because the list appears to be random, you have to carefully scroll through to find something - additionally tedious because, with hundred of collections and mytags, it only shows 6 at a time

5. Even if you get it organized the way you want, it is short-lived - it seems collections that you create are automatically added in there. So you have to go in and turn them off if you don't want to see them.

6. "Drag to change order" for the order of the collections to display - are you kidding me? Ever try dragging something from down low to high up, when there are hundreds to get through, it's slow because of the copious amounts of processing going on, and you can only see 6 entries at a time?

The maintenance of this tool was built apparently when the thought was someone would have 10-15 Collections/tags. IT DOES NOT SCALE to the hundreds of entries many of us have. If you use this, I can't believe you won't see how impossible it is to maintain it the way you want to see it for your study. This is one of those things where I really do wonder whether Logos people use the product or just play with the areas they work on; it really is unusable. 

PLEASE! and Thank you!

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 13 2014 9:01 AM

Does anyone use Cited By???  You're singing to the choirgirl!

On mine, the CB list comes up almost instantly. But I have almost no collections. So, reading the collections might be the slowness (might also explain why they don't manage collections similar to tags in the library).

But I agree wholeheartedly. I suspect they never expected the tool to be so powerful. (Or Logos for that matter.)

I'm just worried what they'll mess up next.  Absent new tags/collections, the little things stay pretty much in place (in my layout). CB's are about the only power-thing unique to Logos (oh ... there's the pretty verses. That's key.)


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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 13 2014 3:02 PM
  1. fix regressions
  2. fix bugs i.e. non-crashes
  3. wear User hats when discussing/implementing changes
  4. wear User hats when thinking about new functions
  5. be responsive to user requests

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Josh W. | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 13 2014 3:30 PM

Paul-C

1.Amen

2.Amen

3.Amen

4.Amen

5.Amen 

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 14 2014 3:43 AM

Dave Hooton:

  1. fix regressions
  2. fix bugs i.e. non-crashes
  3. wear User hats when discussing/implementing changes
  4. wear User hats when thinking about new functions
  5. be responsive to user requests

Besides amen-ing this:

1. Original language resources: database integrity (text and tagging), iron-clad searches, conformance to accepted conventions in line with (dare I say "exceeding"?) standards set by other OL Bible software.

2. Self-healing routines vis-a-vis indexing and layouts, or any modules that might lead to crashes or infinite loops.

3. Nothing else, really. 1 and 2 would take Logos to the very top in my book.

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