Why do the Anglican base packages contain so many Catholic resources?

BriM
BriM Member Posts: 287 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

I was looking at Anglican Bronze and was really surprised to see the following

A Catholic Commentary on Holy Scripture
The Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition
Early Church Fathers Special Catholic Edition (37 vols.)
Catholic Lectionary

Is this a mistake or intentional? Surely, the Protestant versions make more sense in a Protestant collection?

Perhaps why the upgrade prices are so high?

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,583

    BriM said:

    A Catholic Commentary on Holy Scripture

    Probably because it is one of the more popular commentaries produced by English scholars - at least judging by what people are willing to pay to get their hands on a dead tree copy.

    42663 said:

    Surely, the Protestant versions make more sense in a Protestant collection?

    Generally, Anglicans do not consider themselves to be Protestants but rather the middle way between Catholic and Protestant. (Lutherans often take this stance as well).

    42663 said:

    The Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition

    I suspect this is because the liturgy of the Anglican includes readings from the broader canon.

    42663 said:

    Early Church Fathers Special Catholic Edition (37 vols.)

    In the Anglican forum you'll find a note from Logos on this. However quotes such as "But, unwilling to refer to Anglican authorities on points so much disputed, I cordially turn to the learned Chevalier, . . " might give you a hint as to why some Anglicans would prefer to ignore the notes.

    Alexander Roberts, James Donaldson, and A. Cleveland Coxe, eds., Fathers of the Third Century: Hippolytus, Cyprian, Novatian, Appendix, vol. 5, The Ante-Nicene Fathers (Buffalo, NY: Christian Literature Company, 1886), 560.

    42663 said:

    Catholic Lectionary

    Perhaps because it is the base for the RCL which is one BCP option; the BCP one year traditional cycle is similarly derived from the Roman Catholic one year cycle. The Morning and Evening Prayer continuous reading cycle is unique to the BCP.

    42663 said:

    Perhaps why the upgrade prices are so high?

    The sole reason for upgrade prices being high is what you currently own. The price for each base package level is the same across the denominations.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    To add to what MJ said: If you own the Protestant ECF, a sales rep ought to be able to give you credit for it, even if the website does not. But don't expect it to make much difference.

    If you want to be surprised, go and look at all the Jewish stuff in the highest Catholic base package.[:)]

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  • Dan Francis
    Dan Francis Member Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭

    BriM said:

    I was looking at Anglican Bronze and was really surprised to see the following

    A Catholic Commentary on Holy Scripture
    The Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition
    Early Church Fathers Special Catholic Edition (37 vols.)
    Catholic Lectionary

    Is this a mistake or intentional? Surely, the Protestant versions make more sense in a Protestant collection?

    Perhaps why the upgrade prices are so high?

    The catholic resources are most welcome. I would must prefer the Community priced  A New Commentary on Holy Scripture Including the Apocrypha to A Catholic Commentary on Holy Scripture but that is simply because I feel it would have been a better fit over all. I do like and use A Catholic Commentary on Holy Scripture a lot even though I am Anglican. And in silver and higher I think The Speaker's Commentary (13 vols.) should have been included. But those are my main complaints with the Anglican series. I picked up Anglican Gold for a little over $500. And I have never seen myself as a protestant... An Anglican yes, Lutheran before that... Had Luther had his way there would have been no Lutheran Church and we would have been better for it, assuming he would have effected change in the catholic church (which he did but 100 years too late). Now I know reformation in England was highly political in addition  to complaints on rome's abuses, and unlike Luther who formed a church after excommunication England broke away for it's own autonomy.  Till 1992 much of the Church of England was in at least a partial communion with Rome, which had recognized Pope as Bishop of Rome (but not giving him power outside his See). That somewhat antagonistic communion ended when women were ordained. Indeed a large number of Anglican priest left for the RC church, but within a few years almost all of them but a hand full had returned to the CoE. 

    -Dan

  • Unix
    Unix Member Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭

    What current works are there in the Anglican Bronze base-package?

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  • David Wilson
    David Wilson Member Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭

    https://www.logos.com/product/37757/anglican-bronze : currently $535 without dynamic pricing (with 15% off introductory offer)

    Includes:
    New Testament for Everyone Series (NT Wright):  $200
    Old Testament for Everyone Series (John Goldingay): $105
    Lectionary Reflections Collection: $36
    Christ the Stranger: The Theology of Rowan Williams: $25
    Anglican Theology (Chapman): $30
    Several other recent volumes from T&T Clark Anglican Studies Collection and SPCK Anglican Studies Collection: about $60
    SPCK Prayer Collection: $50
    Twelve Months of Sundays: Reflections on Bible Readings (3 vols): $45
    Christian Origins and the Question of God Series (NT Wright): $170
    Paul: Fresh Perspectives: $17

    Value of the above "current" works: $738

    Plus the Anglican Bronze package contains several hundred older works of various degrees of interest, including a dozen different bibles, the 37 volume Church Fathers set and a host of other items useful if this is someone's first base package.  Many current users will already have some of the general base package material and hence will have a much lower dynamic price they have to pay for the overall package.

  • Unix
    Unix Member Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭

    Thanks, David!
    My price with the discount is $215.13.

    If I would "subtract" the following since I don't want them (and I have 3 vols. from Christian Origins and the Question of God Series (i.e. not the Paul volume)) ...
    New Testament for Everyone Series (NT Wright): $200
    Lectionary Reflections Collection: $36
    Christ the Stranger: The Theology of Rowan Williams: $25
    Anglican Theology (Chapman): $30
    Christian Origins and the Question of God Series (NT Wright): $170
    ... the value would be: $277.
    (1-(215.13/277))*100 ... that would equal a discount of 22⅓%.

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  • David Wilson
    David Wilson Member Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭

    Unlike other packages that stated only the 3 volume set was included, the Anglican Base Package descriptions implied this was the full four volume set.  According to Ben's post back on March 31, the Anglican base packages from Bronze upwards do indeed include the Paul volume in the Christian Origins set

    http://community.logos.com/forums/t/82874.aspx?PageIndex=2

    I went back through and pulled some strings and now Paul and the Faithfulness of God will be included in all the Anglican packages from Bronze to Diamond.

    I am very sorry for the confusion in all of this but I think this should make everyone happy!

    Thanks again for your patience. Smile