Oy vey - another Jewish perspective
My understanding of the branches of Judaism - omitting South Asian and Chinese Jews. Please feel free to correct any misunderstandings or add additional distinctions.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Ok - over load. I really thought it would be easier than this. I don't mind doing original language exegesis, background work and everything else that goes into, what I think is a proper a hermeneutic, but I didn't prepare for this. My OT and Hb. professors never told us that you could go wild with all these branches.
by the way I think Inspiration 9 is great. I have, use it, and found it easier than Mind Genius.
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This is what I have in regard to Genesis/Jewish stuff. Tell me if you think this is ok for a beginning or give me one more suggestion that Logos has that will add to it.
Genesis: With a Talmudical Commentary
Ariel's Bible Commentary: The Book of Genesis.
ISRAELOLOGY: THE MISSING LINK IN SYSTEMATIC THEOLOGY
NIVAC Genesis
Boice's Genesis commentary
NICOT Genesis
NAC Genesis
EPSC Genesis
Genesis 1 Ancient Cosmology
WBC Genesis
and a host of 'minor' commentaries and or monographs.
So I'm all ears.
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Compare how Christianity has split in half the time. I couldn't even upload as complete a diagram.[:D][8-|]
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Ok - over load. I really thought it would be easier than this. I don't mind doing original language exegesis, background work and everything else that goes into, what I think is a proper a hermeneutic, but I didn't prepare for this. My OT and Hb. professors never told us that you could go wild with all these branches.
I don't know if this will break the camel's back or not, but you should keep in mind the most important thing of all regarding Judaism...Judaism is not the religion of the Old Testament. With that in mind, the Karaites on MJ's chart are the most akin to Biblical (Tanakh) religion. Of course, they don't accept Yeishuu`a as being the Messiah, although some are willing to allow that He could come back and change their mind on that point.
Also keep in mind that Messianic Judaism is still Judaism...they accept Yeishuu`a, but they just fold Him into their non-Biblical practice of Judaism, which is exactly what His beef was with the Pharisees. Many Messianics even go as far as to say Yeishuu`a was a Pharisee. Odd that.
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Tell me if you think this is ok for a beginning or give me one more suggestion
Is this the thread you really meant to post in?
You are not showing the JPS Commentary on Genesis which should precede all other commentaries although you may want to start with the notes in the Jewish Study Bible. I'd follow that with Ginzberg's L.egends of the Jews and then start you list
If you have no experience with Jewish hermeneutics you should read Shai Cherry's Torah Through Time before embarking on this adventure. It is his introduction to Jewish hermeneutics for his students at Vanderbilt.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Neither of the books in my OP here are in Logos, but they address the JudaismS issue, particularly the book by Chilton and Neusner.
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M.J. Smith,
I think you be could be a little bit more clear about what is meant by "Torah" for each branch.
Samaritan: Samaritan Pentateuch and their own oral traition
Karaites: Tanakh and Grammar
Orthodoxy: Pentateuch divine written revelation/ Pentateuch written by Moses. Oral Torah given by divine will and passed down through the ages. Tanakh inspired, but Torah (Oral and Written) given by direct revelation. Written Torah can not be interpreted correctly without the Oral Law (they are two parts of the same coin).
Haredi
Hasidic
Modern Orthodox
Yemenite Orthodox: Pentatuech and Mishneh Torah (Much of western Oral law rejected)
Masorti / Conservative: Written Torah and Oral Torah accepted but reinterpreted and debate encouraged. The Torah is treated much like Citizens of the United States treat their constitution. Some accept Moses as the author others question his involment with it.
Reconstructivist: Close to the Conservative in practice, but closer to the modern Orthodox in belief about the written Torah.
Reform movement: Ethical and Moral laws of the Torah binding. Ritual system of the Oral Law and Temple largely replaced by modern congergational life. Pentatuech not written by Moses and not to be taken literally. Mishnah and Talmud (ano other codes of law) not binding but yet insightful.
Beta Israel and the Karaites: Some members of those movements have left and joined the modern Orthodox.
Here are some well thought out opinions that might be helpful:
http://www.joi.org/qa/denom.shtml
http://www.icsresources.org/content/factsheets/BranchesOfJudaism.pdf
http://detroitjcrc.org/about-us-detroits-jewish-community-branches-of-judaism
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Thanks , BK, since I didn't want to include notes I made some minor changes and linked the major groups to their web pages. I'll make more major modifications if you think they are necessary.
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MJ, sorry to go off topic but, I use hyperlinks in The Brain 8 Mind Map to link directly to my Logos pages. This opens the book or article to correct reference, and I was wanting to ask if your mind map did the same? There is much I don't like about The Brain.
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Giving it a quick test, I don't think so but I need to double check since I thought I could.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Thanks MJ and BK very eye opening, but as you say MJ you could not diagram all the branches of christianity.
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Thanks MJ and BK very eye opening, but as you say MJ you could not diagram all the branches of christianity.
I once saw a chart/wall-hanging purporting to do just that. It was larger than a full size sheet of bristol board, and the print was tiny.
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