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Christopher S Macy | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, May 5 2014 11:04 AM

I have been trying to install L4 or L5 on Ubuntu Linux 14. I am able to install .Net 4.5, DX, and the core fonts from MS, but when I run the L4 or the L5 installer it crashes. The crash is a result of the .msi prerequisite file download. I am confident that L5 or L4 can be installed via wine if we could have an installer that bypassed this .msi file.

So is this possible? I know Linux is not supported by Logos, but allowing us this one bypass couldn't hurt and it would gain you a few hundred users of Linux!

Let me know! I would love to have a little help.

Chris

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 5 2014 11:21 AM

Chris,

not to curb your enthusiasm, but I assume the prerequisites msi has its name for a reason.... Bypassing it probably wouldn't do. However, if it only installs SQLlite, then perhaps there's a way. Can you install other msi files under wine?

I would assume that if it was easily possible to install on Linux, then one of the devs would have already ported it (if only out of curiosity). Maybe you can mail Bradley directly about it - usually devs don't read the suggestions forum.  

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 5 2014 12:49 PM

NB.Mick:
I would assume that if it was easily possible to install on Linux, then one of the devs would have already ported it

Especially since Bob Pritchett has a standing monetary reward for anyone who can successfully port to Linux.

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The installer basically just detects if the prerequisites MSI is necessary and installs it if so. Then it installs the regular Logos.msi.

You should be able to "bypass" the installer by just installing Logos.msi directly. You didn't mention installing the Visual C++ runtime redistributable, so you'll probably be missing that (unless WINE emulates it?). There may be other prerequisites in the prerequisites MSI file; I don't remember offhand everything it supplies.

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Christopher S Macy | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 7 2014 8:23 AM

Bradley,

Where can I get the Logos.msi file? I can download the exe from your site, but the FTP site no longer holds the full installer packages. 

Yes, wine installs the VC++ ReD pack, unless Logos now requires the 2013 version? The older versions run perfectly.

I do believe I can get Logos to install, I think its the Prerequisite check that is killing the install. This file is confused by the wine setup and wont download the files.

Thanks Bradley.

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Randy W. Sims | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 7 2014 8:35 AM

If you have a Windows install it is in: %LOCALAPPDATA%\Logos5\Install\Installers

Or: http://downloads.logoscdn.com/LBS5/Installer/5.2.1.0107/Logos.msi

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Christopher S Macy | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 7 2014 8:42 AM

Awesome, thank you!

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Christopher S Macy:

unless Logos now requires the 2013 version?

Logos 5.2a uses the VC++ 2012 runtime. We will be migrating to VC++ 2013 in an upcoming release.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 7 2014 3:19 PM

Christopher S Macy:
Where can I get the Logos.msi file? I can download the exe from your site, but the FTP site no longer holds the full installer packages. 

If you look at the XML file that Logos.exe uses to check for updates, you'll see all the files that you need: https://clientservices.logos.com/update/v1/feed/logos5/stable.xml

It currently shows:

http://downloads.logoscdn.com/LBS5/Installer/5.2.1.0107/LogosSetup.exe 
http://downloads.logoscdn.com/LBS5/Installer/5.2.1.0107/Logos4UpdateScript.lbxdat 
http://downloads.logoscdn.com/LBS5/Installer/5.2.1.0107/Logos4Setup.exe 
http://downloads.logoscdn.com/LBS5/Installer/5.2.1.0107/Logos.msi 
http://downloads.logoscdn.com/LBS5/Installer/5.2.1.0107/LogosPrerequisites.msi 
http://downloads.logoscdn.com/LBS5/Installer/5.2.1.0107/dotNetFx45_Full_setup.exe 
http://downloads.logoscdn.com/LBS5/Installer/5.2.1.0107/DXSETUP.exe 
http://downloads.logoscdn.com/LBS5/Installer/5.2.1.0107/DSETUP.dll 
http://downloads.logoscdn.com/LBS5/Installer/5.2.1.0107/dsetup32.dll 
http://downloads.logoscdn.com/LBS5/Installer/5.2.1.0107/dxdllreg_x86.cab 
http://downloads.logoscdn.com/LBS5/Installer/5.2.1.0107/dxupdate.cab 
http://downloads.logoscdn.com/LBS5/Installer/5.2.1.0107/Jun2010_d3dx9_43_x86.cab
If you have access to Windows you can use LessMSI to examine the pre-requisties MSI file to see what needs to be installed. It's mostly fonts, with just a few .DLLs from VC++.
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Christopher S Macy | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 8 2014 11:58 AM

Thank you Mark, this helps as well.

I have made it past the Prerequisties part and to the actually install of Logos which completes fine. At logos.exe initialization it crashes. Thats because I was using VC++ 2010. I am going to try VC++ 2012 today and let you know.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 8 2014 6:47 PM

Super.Tramp:

NB.Mick:
I would assume that if it was easily possible to install on Linux, then one of the devs would have already ported it

Especially since Bob Pritchett has a standing monetary reward for anyone who can successfully port to Linux.

Really?

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 8 2014 7:55 PM

Christopher S Macy:
I know Linux is not supported by Logos, but allowing us this one bypass couldn't hurt and it would gain you a few hundred users of Linux!

Seem to remember Logos using Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF) => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Presentation_Foundation

Mono project still has no plans for WPF => http://www.mono-project.com/WPF and => http://www.mono-project.com/WPF_Notes

Noticed WINE HQ has .Net Framework => http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=2586

and Visual C++ => http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=5766 with Garbage ratings for VC++ 2012 and VC++ 2013

Ubuntu forum thread earlier this year => http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2200195

Apologies: currently only know of running Logos in a Windows Virtual Machine on Linux.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 9 2014 3:22 AM

SineNomine:

Super.Tramp:

NB.Mick:
I would assume that if it was easily possible to install on Linux, then one of the devs would have already ported it

Especially since Bob Pritchett has a standing monetary reward for anyone who can successfully port to Linux.

Really?

I think he's referring to this, though it's not exactly a reward...

http://community.logos.com/forums/p/2561/19235.aspx#19235 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 11 2014 2:02 PM

Christopher S Macy:
So is this possible?

Instead of WINE, may want to help Darling => http://www.darlinghq.org/ with Logos 5 for OS X => https://www.logos.com/support/logos5/mac/install

Cocotron was another open source attempt to run OS X applications on linux => http://cocotron.fink.org/

By the way, CodeWeavers has:

Logos 4 => http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=6986 that was known not to work as of 2 Feb 2010

Logos 5 => http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=12711

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