Ronald Sider collection

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Randy Lane | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, May 6 2014 2:19 PM

New Pre Pub

https://www.logos.com/product/42334/select-works-of-ronald-j-sider

All classic Sider books. But the real Sider classic (Rich Christians in an Age of Hunger) is a Harper Collins title so it is not included.

One minister I know often calls Sider the primary promoter of "The Guilt Gospel". In his opinion Sider tries to make Christians feel guilty for their seemingly conspicuous consumption when others in the world are starving. I think the minister even once said by Sider's standards my passion for Logos Bible Software would be so classified.

Anyone share that opinion? I haven't read Sider in a few decades and can't recall enough to agree or disagree. Maybe I'll get this collection and form my own opinion.

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Tom | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 6 2014 2:48 PM

Randy Lane:
One minister I know often calls Sider the primary promoter of "The Guilt Gospel". In his opinion Sider tries to make Christians feel guilty for their seemingly conspicuous consumption when others in the world are starving

I naively read Sider years ago while in high school. Super Angry  Since then (only by the grace of God) I am no longer a christian socialist.  

To bad that my local christian book store did not carry Chiltons book to get the other side of the story.

Productive Christians In An Age Of Guilt Manipulators: A Biblical response to Ronald Sider  http://www.garynorth.com/freebooks/sidefrm2.htm 

PDF of book: http://www.garynorth.com/freebooks/docs/pdf/productive_christians.pdf 

Has any one out there make a PB of it?

 

www.hombrereformado.org  Solo a Dios la Gloria   Apoyo

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 6 2014 3:15 PM

The only title I'm interested in is The Scandal of the Evangelical Conscience, so I will wait till this gets broken up...but I hope it's soon.

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Robert Harner | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 6 2014 3:20 PM

There are several resources in Logos from Acton Institute on this subject

Dr Ronald Nash has several related books that should be in Logos

Also see  Tabletalk Magazine, March 1998: Poverty: No Easy Answers   

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 6 2014 3:36 PM

I read Rich Christians in an Age of Hunger in 1999. This was my response to it at the time: "a call to social justice; somewhat idealistic but very convicting and thought-provoking." I would like to see it in Logos eventually, if for no other reason than to dip into it to refamiliarize myself with his arguments. I'd probably still pretty much agree with my assessment from back then, though it might not be so convicting now as it was then since I'm much more involved in supporting social justice now than I was then.

I haven't ever read any of this other books.

Note that all of these are upgrades of prior Vyrso editions, most of which I already own. The only ones that are new to me are Just PoliticsChurches That Make a Difference; and Linking Arms, Linking Lives. Since Logos doesn't do dynamic pricing on pre-pubs I'm going to hold off on this until it's split up and maybe just pick up Just Politics. Or maybe not. I've got enough Sider for the foreseeable future.

They've pulled them off of Vyrso now, but here's a snapshot from Google's cache as of April 1:

EDIT: It appears they haven't pulled Just Generosity yet. The new pre-pub says it includes the 2nd edition of this, but the one for sale on Vyrso is already the 2nd edition even though it doesn't say so. I have it.

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L.A. | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 6 2014 3:38 PM

look at this too: https://vyrso.com/products/search?q=sider&Author=14322%7cRonald+J.+Sider&redirecttoauthor=true

Randy Lane:
Anyone share that opinion?
NO! I like him and never felt guilty...

But... remember... the Logos forum is not the place to discuss political or religious opinions

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Kent | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 6 2014 4:00 PM

L.A.:
But... remember... the Logos forum is not the place to discuss political or religious opinions

That made me laugh out loud. No, you were serious?

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Robert Harner | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 6 2014 4:35 PM

Kent:

L.A.:
But... remember... the Logos forum is not the place to discuss political or religious opinions

That made me laugh out loud. No, you were serious?

I laughed too. Doesn't take long for the police to come out    

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 6 2014 4:47 PM

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 6 2014 5:07 PM

MJ. Smith:

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 6 2014 5:41 PM

David Paul:

Big Smile

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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