Since creation is such a hot topic at the moment, I would like to see a package of theologicans speaking on the issues - issues of interpretation of scripture not issues of educational cirriculum. My suggestions:
I'm sure that others can add interesting titles to the list.
Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."
I would like to add to this list:
"Surely the best informed, clearest and most judicious treatment of the question in its title that you can find anywhere today" - Professor J.I.Packer, Regent College, Canada
Excellent list! Here is one I would add:
Chance or Purpose? Creation, Evolution and a Rational Faith - Cardinal Christoph Schoenborn
http://www.amazon.com/Chance-Purpose-Creation-Evolution-Rational/dp/1586172123/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1262717270&sr=8-1
"Cardinal Schoenborn writes with masterful simplicity on profound theological issues. I, as a scientist and Christian outside the Catholic tradition, welcome his wisdom. He argues effectively that there are multiple approaches to reality, and he states clearly that while intelligent design is worthy of human reflection, from a scientific perspective the evolutionary model is the true story." -- Owen Gingerich, Professor Emeritus of Astronomy and History of Science, Harvard University. Author of "God's Universe"
"Intellectual curiosity is here joined with precision of reason and vibrancy of faith. The result is a wondrously instructive guide to one of the most controverted questions of our time by one of the most influential leaders of the Church." -- Richard John Neuhaus, Editor, FIRST THINGS
"Cardinal Christoph Schoenborn's 2005 essay in the New York Times, which seemingly condemned Darwin's scientific theory of evolution, ignited a firestorm of controversy. Yet the hasty responses did not look deeply enough into the Cardinal's words. Rather than the science of Darwin, it is the philosophical claims made in its name that the prelate upbraided. Science cannot speak of ultimate purpose, and scientists who do so are outside of their authority. In Chance or Purpose? the Cardinal shows that the data of biology, when properly examined by reason and philosophy, strongly point to a purposeful world." -- Michael Behe, Author, Darwin's Black Box
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Dominick Sela:Cardinal Christoph Schoenborn
Yes, I like Schoenborn very much. I was unaware of this work.
Place your pre-pub orders for the 6-volume set from Canon Press (http://www.logos.com/products/prepub/details/4576), as this volume (which I have in print) is excellent:Creation in Six Days: A Defense of the Traditional Reading of Genesis OneAuthor: James B. Jordan 265 pages Canon Press | 1999 Creation in Six Days offers an exegetical, literary, and theological defense of the traditional interpretation of the Genesis account of six-day creation. Jordan’s account is primarily designed to answer any approach to the text of Genesis, such as the increasingly popular Framework Hypothesis, that pits the text’s literary features against its historical and narrative sense. Beyond his exegetical critique of several prominent positions, Jordan offers a constructive reading of the early parts of Genesis and also seeks to uncover the assumptions which attract people to the Framework Interpretation and similar views. The explanation, he says, lies in the acceptance of many of the questionable assumptions of modern science on the part of most Christians today, coupled with the pervasiveness of a Gnostic or non-historical attitude toward the Christian faith. James B. Jordan (Th.M., D.Litt.) is author of several books including Through New Eyes: Developing a Biblical View of the World, Judges: A Practical and Theological Commentary, and Crisis, Opportunity, and the Christian Future. He is Director of Biblical Horizons Ministries in Niceville, Florida. Jordan defends the traditional reading of the creation account with a command of biblical theology rarely encountered.—Rev. James Bordwine, Ph.D. This new book by James Jordan addresses with precision, charity, and biblical fidelity the strange and confusing situation amongst evangelical and Reformed scholars on the doctrine of creation. . . . Jordan’s critique of some of the popular endeavors to make Genesis teach something other than six-day creation is careful and fair, bringing order out of confusion. I shall be recommending it in classes and conferences.—Dr. Douglas Kelly, Reformed Theological Seminary James Jordan’s book is a significant defense of the traditional interpretation of Genesis 1. . . . One need not agree with every statement to find many exegetical and theological insights that will add significantly to the growing arsenal of solid studies in Genesis 1.—Dr. John Whitcomb
You can get Francis Schaeffer's book as part of Logos' "The Complete Works of Francis Schaeffer": http://www.logos.com/ebooks/details/cwfs
John H. Walton has written several books that I think are essential reading for this subject:
These next two books operate from a standpoint that accepts most of modern science as accurate and explore what this means for creation theology. Like Walton, they look at Genesis using its own historical and cultural worldview.
Tim Lord: You can get Francis Schaeffer's book as part of Logos' "The Complete Works of Francis Schaeffer": http://www.logos.com/ebooks/details/cwfs
Yes, I know, but I was just suggesting it be included with a Creation bundle too, if such were ever created. Several books appear in more than one collection. If you already have one collection when you buy the other, Logos Customer Service will give you a reduced price on the second collection.
Several that I haven't seen mentioned yet:
Here are Creation books i would add for inclusion in Logos. Henry Morris's books are a given and a must.
Ted
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Well, might as well add this one to the mix:
I do not want to rain on your parade but the probability of such a package happening is close to zero for obvious business reasons:
The works come from different publishers and it would be a nightmare for Logos to get them to agree to license their work for a topical package and agree on royalties (unless I am mistaken this has only be done for base packages that are expected to have a wide customer base).
The works represent divergent theological views (which is a big red flag for a small collection business wise). This is a good for those in academia or the few outside with an inquiring mind but it is not a good idea if one wants to reach a wider audience (which is the main reason publishers agree to combine their resources in base packages); and publishers are still in the business of making money the last time I checked (furthering academic research is merely a byproduct of the process).
Am I cynical? Not quite.. I am a realist
Obtaining some of these resources individually is the best bet
Alain
Alain Maashe:Obtaining some of these resources individually is the best bet
Hi Alain,
Where have you been, busy with your dissertation i suppose? Great to hear from you, and i would still have love to seen a suggestion of books on this subject from you. If not for inclusion in Logos at least for my paper library
Every blessings,
Ted.
Alain Maashe: The works represent divergent theological views (which is a big red flag for a small collection business wise).
The works represent divergent theological views (which is a big red flag for a small collection business wise).
Yes, I was beginning to notice that, as the suggestions flooded in. Nobody who would buy Denis Lamoureux would want Henry Morris's books polluting their hard disk, and vice versa.
Ted Hans: Alain Maashe:Obtaining some of these resources individually is the best bet Hi Alain, Where have you been, busy with your dissertation i suppose? Great to hear from you, and i would still have love to seen a suggestion of books on this subject from you. If not for inclusion in Logos at least for my paper library Every blessings, Ted.
Ted,
My preliminary work towards my dissertation has been put on hold while I prepare for my comprehensive exams, the dissertation phase will be more relax (not by much )
I doubt that I could improve on the suggestions given above.
I have to say that I prefer books that deal with the issue exegetically versus a scientific/apologetical approach because of my conviction that the biblical text properly interpreted is the final authority regardless of what the current scientific consensus says about the issue.
I like works that underline the epistemological and philosophical presuppositions of one's conclusion regarding creation. I believe that more than anything else, these two factors dictate the various conclusions and how the text is read (which unfortunately is poor exegesis)
Scot McKnight on his blog Jesus' Creed has an interesting entry about evolution and evangelicals (from the perspective of theistic evolution)
Evolution and Evangelicals ... What are the Barriers?
What is find interesting (and sad) is that in order to align their interpretation on Genesis 1 and 2 with the current scientific consensus, many of those who left comments have opened Pandora's box and have a hard time reconciling their take on creation with what the rest of the Bible has to say about the theological importance of creation and key characters like Adam and Eve.
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Funny how a literal view of the days of creation harmonizes better with the rest of the Bible
My intent is not start a debate, I just giving Ted my thoughts on the issues.
Alain Maashe:My intent is not start a debate, I just giving Ted my thoughts on the issues.
Thanks Alain for the response and God bless. I will look at those links you have provided.
Please not another creation debate, i just wanted Alains take on things.
Alain Maashe:The works represent divergent theological views (which is a big red flag for a small collection business wise).
The musician, John Mooney, sings that "there are three sides to every question - yours, mine and the __ truth" (paraphrase of the text, perhaps, since I'm not checking the cd.
You are probably realistic and right. But I wish more people truly wanted to explore the issues.
Alain seems to have divergent views that exclude any other divergent view...thought it not the focus of logos to repudiate one view against another but rather to allow axcess to divergence in order for scolars to have greater appreciation of what others say and make their own conclusions. Men like Morris have caused many so called scientests to examine their "proof evidence" and has resulted in more accountability in their science...Logos would do well to incorporate "Scientific Creationism" onto their book list...
bump this