Collection rules for sorting commentaries (updated for Logos 9 Libraries)

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 30 2020 5:17 AM

Armin:
Unfortunately, for me, the automatic updating does not seem to work. All the previous collections that I downloaded from you still have last year's date. And I can't see any button or link or notification that would allow me to update them.

What do you see here: https://documents.logos.com/?offset=0&sortType=Date&sortOrder=Descending&deleted=False&privacy=All&documentKind=resourcecollections

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Armin | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 30 2020 6:36 PM

Mark Barnes:

At this link, the collections also have a date from last year. 

If I go to your shared collection, I can "get a copy" and it shows then up in my collections with today's date however, with a number at the end  (e.g., Commentaries (Historical: 1750-1950) (3) ) because I downloaded them previously.

So the updating does not seem to work for me.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 31 2020 6:11 AM

Armin:
If I go to your shared collection, I can "get a copy" and it shows then up in my collections with today's date however, with a number at the end  (e.g., Commentaries (Historical: 1750-1950) (3) ) because I downloaded them previously.

I have the same experience. Are you on Mac OS or Windows?

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HansK | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 31 2020 6:59 AM

Armin:
with a number at the end

Delete the collections in your documents (the link provided by Mark) and try again.

This worked for me. I am on Mac.

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 31 2020 7:10 AM

HansK:
Delete the collections in your documents (the link provided by Mark) and try again.

I'm on a PC (Win10) and paranoid about data loss. While it may be a little more complicated...

I downloaded the new collection rules, the new download attaches a (2) after the name. THEN I delete the original collection rule download. THEN I rename the collection rule by removing the (2)

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Armin | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 31 2020 7:49 AM

Jack Caviness:

I have the same experience. Are you on Mac OS or Windows?

I am on a Mac. 

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Armin | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 31 2020 7:50 AM

HansK:

Delete the collections in your documents (the link provided by Mark) and try again.

This worked for me. I am on Mac.

I will give this a try once my upgrade to Catalina is complete.

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Andrew Perez | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 31 2020 8:38 AM

https://wiki.logos.com/Example_Collections 

Hello everyone. This is a list of collection examples I downloaded for the wiki page in the Logos website a few years ago. Enjoy and keep safe.

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Mike Brown | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 31 2020 9:13 AM

I too have been having issues with some of Mark's collections not updating and I may have discovered part of the issue. 

When I re-add the collections that will not update it automatically places a (2) after the collection name, obviously because the old one exists. When I delete the old copy and rename the new one in Logos it is no longer a shared document which will receive updates when Mark updates them. It becomes exclusively a private document during the renaming process. I am going to try deleting the original first and re-adding them. I've done this before and it still gave them a (2) after the name but I think it is because it needs a minute or two to sync before adding the new one.

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Mike Brown | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 31 2020 9:28 AM

It gets even more complicated but I figured it out. In Your Documents there is a dropdown menu which lets you select between Available, Shared, Private, and Deleted. If Logos detects any previous collections in any of these folders, including Deleted, it will append a number to the title. This is where it becomes a pain. I had to go into my Deleted section and Undelete all previous versions of the collection with the same name (the ones not updating) and then rename them. In my case I just added the word "old" to the document. This time when I deleted the documents and added Mark's it did not append a number to them and now they remain in my documents as an updatable version and not exclusively private. I hope this helps anyone else having this issue. 

This would be MUCH easier to solve it we had the ability to empty out our Deleted section - kind of like "Empty Trash".

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Armin | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 31 2020 9:59 AM

Mike Brown:

When I re-add the collections that will not update it automatically places a (2) after the collection name, obviously because the old one exists. When I delete the old copy and rename the new one in Logos it is no longer a shared document which will receive updates when Mark updates them. It becomes exclusively a private document during the renaming process. I am going to try deleting the original first and re-adding them. I've done this before and it still gave them a (2) after the name but I think it is because it needs a minute or two to sync before adding the new one.

I believe this is what I did in the past and it did not work. But I will give it another try.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 31 2020 10:45 AM

Armin:

At this link, the collections also have a date from last year. 

If I go to your shared collection, I can "get a copy" and it shows then up in my collections with today's date however, with a number at the end  (e.g., Commentaries (Historical: 1750-1950) (3) ) because I downloaded them previously.

So the updating does not seem to work for me.

How did you get the collections in the first place?

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Armin | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 31 2020 10:30 PM

Mark Barnes:

How did you get the collections in the first place?

Hi Mark,

I am sorry, but I don't remember. I assume I either downloaded them from the Logos webpage (https://documents.logos.com/) or from within the app (as described in your earlier posts). Is there a preferred way?

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Armin | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 11 2020 5:39 AM

Mark, is there a preferred way of getting the collections?

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 15 2020 12:43 PM

I've been using the older version of these commentary rules for a while but I was thinking about switching to the newer ones.  Is there any speed difference from the automatic ones to the regular copy/paste versions?

Someone started a forum post about how collections slow down your computer so I figured I'd give this a thought.  The reason why I like the copy/paste is because I've tinkered w/ the collection rules a bit.

If I switch to the automatic, can I still tinker w/ them or are you stuck w/ however they come?

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 15 2020 12:50 PM

Hi Mattillo,

As a work around you can copy and paste the collection rules in the library and then select all and tag those resources and then create a collection, if you still need to using "mytag". New resources will not automatically be added is the only downside.

Thanks

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 15 2020 5:06 PM

John Fidel:
New resources will not automatically be added is the only downside.

That is equally true of the public collections if they are not being updated. Mark Barnes has reduced his involvement in the forums, but his rules always allowed a Tag for user preferences or new resources.

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Armin | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 15 2020 6:43 PM

John Fidel:

As a work around you can copy and paste the collection rules in the library and then select all and tag those resources and then create a collection, if you still need to using "mytag". 

That's a great idea. I haven't thought of this. 

For whatever reason, Mark's collections do not update for me. Maybe because I modified them. But when I downloaded them manually, I realized they overwrite my own customization of Mark's rules. The mytag option might help me avoid this problem.

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 15 2020 7:41 PM

I actually converted all my collection rules to tags a few years ago. It is very efficient and not that my entire library is tagged, I can easily tag the resources I add. I think it is the best way to resolve the issues with collection rules.

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 15 2020 8:18 PM

This is a long shot but I used to have a bunch of collections that I got from a Faithlife group labeled Theology X where X would be dispensational or amillenial etc. I can’t remember for the life of me where I got that. Anyone seen that before?

Disregard: Found it :) https://faithlife.com/logos-library-theology-denomination-tags/documents
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