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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Oct 4 2014 11:32 PM

Now we know why there's no SUBforum for Baptists. Wink

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 4:34 AM

MJ. Smith:
Now we know why there's no SUBforum for Baptists. Wink

But is appears that you actually did comment. Wink

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Robert M. Warren | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 6:36 AM

MJ. Smith:

Now we know why there's no SUBforum for Baptists. Wink

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 10:59 AM

hahaha!

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 11:20 AM

I still love the fact that when you are on Verbum.com, and click forums you are led here, where an average user may not know where to put his/her question if the problem is software related. It is perfectly fine if Faithlife doesn't want to make a Verbum forum but please rename Logos 5 Desktop -- Faithlife Desktop Applications.

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 12:12 PM

Dan Francis:
please rename Logos 5 Desktop -- Faithlife Desktop Applications.

I think there is a big difference between a program and an app.

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 12:21 PM

I don't see how that gains anyone anything Dan.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 1:46 PM

Dan Francis:
please rename Logos 5 Desktop -- Faithlife Desktop Applications.

What would you suggest for Logos 4 Windows, which many people read as "Logos for Windows"?

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 1:47 PM

Dan Francis:
please rename Logos 5 Desktop -- Faithlife Desktop Applications.

What would you suggest for Logos 4 Windows, which many people read as "Logos for Windows"?

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 5:24 PM

I do not know the exact answer just saying Logos 5 while the place where Verbum questions should be asked, it may well not be overly obvious by a person who has never used anything but Verbum and has never even been to logos.com. When Logos decided to go down this separate application, separate website path, it would have been helpful for them to have a Verbum sub forum or label it Logos5/Verbum. I know where to post things (although i will admit to misplacing items now and then). When someone comes from Verbum.com / http://scripturestudysoftware.com things may not be so clear. Even the Verbum program will direct you here, but I say again when you arrive in Logos forums where are you suppose to get support from Logos 5 (But I since you are not using Logos 5 but Verbum, there is bound to be confusion). Perhaps I am just pleading for people who do not exist but I believe there are people who will be confused, and I want them to have a clear place to go.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 5:31 PM

Dan your point is well made. In selling Verbum to the parish staff we needed to be very careful to keep the Verbum/Logos distinction. I have every intention to continue that distinction as broadly and sharply as possible.

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 5:52 PM

Hmmm...

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 6:12 PM

Actually as a Baptist I take exception to this labeling. There is no such thing as Baptist Bible software, as if Baptists did Bible study differently or they had a Baptist Bible that they studied. Bible software is Bible software, period. Now if everyone who had Bible software used it properly, they'd all be Baptists, but that's another issue. Cool

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 6:13 PM

Unfortunately Mark, there exist Catholics as afraid of Evangelical cooties as Orthodox afraid of Catholic cooties as Restorationists afraid of Calvinist cooties as .... and when trying to implement in a parish one has to acknowledge the cootie-phobic much as many of us wish that were not true. Our parish is proud of the breadth of diversity in our population so I have to sell the idea to everything between cootie-phile and cootie-phobe.

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 6:16 PM

MJ, I am aware of that.  Just finding this entire thread amusing on many levels.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 6:17 PM

Oh, I think I understand, MJ. I don't think a denominational label belongs on the software at all. On the packages? Absolutely.

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 6:34 PM

Dan Francis:

I do not know the exact answer just saying Logos 5 while the place where Verbum questions should be asked, it may well not be overly obvious by a person who has never used anything but Verbum and has never even been to logos.com. When Logos decided to go down this separate application, separate website path, it would have been helpful for them to have a Verbum sub forum or label it Logos5/Verbum. I know where to post things (although i will admit to misplacing items now and then). When someone comes from Verbum.com / http://scripturestudysoftware.com things may not be so clear. Even the Verbum program will direct you here, but I say again when you arrive in Logos forums where are you suppose to get support from Logos 5 (But I since you are not using Logos 5 but Verbum, there is bound to be confusion). Perhaps I am just pleading for people who do not exist but I believe there are people who will be confused, and I want them to have a clear place to go.

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OH, I think I understand what you're saying. Before I thought you were saying that Logos 5 the bible software needed to be re-labeled faithlife. Giving the Logos 5 forum a name that indicates its the place to also ask about Verbum software sounds appropriate to me as well.

Logos 5/Verbum Forum, or something to that extent would make sense.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 7:05 PM

abondservant:

Logos 5/Verbum Forum, or something to that extent would make sense.

Doesn't that mess with the Verbum/Logos 5 distinction? So apart from creating separate forums with support, et.al. for Baptist and Adventist and Orthodox and Roman Catholic, etc., what does Logos do? Faithlife Forum be a better name, as Biblia and Proclaim are already supported here in the 'Logos' forum. The problem is that Logos is positioned as the software not the company, yet I assume for all but Verbum that relationship is transparent on the Bible sodtware part of the house. I don't have Verbum nor pay attention to its marketing, but 'driven by Logos Bible software' would be an accurate tag to give to the product (if that isn't done already). Would that make being directed to a Forum that deals with Faithlife's various products including Logos Bible software 5 still be unclear? Maybe I'm over thinking or don't understand.

I still like "Logos, the software that shows Baptists have always been right" as the correct universal tagline for the software.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 7:36 PM

MJ. Smith:

Now we know why there's no SUBforum for Baptists. Wink

Well, at least they tried to keep the "Baptists" Biblical by adding "Bible Software" where as the Anglicans and Charismatic/Pentecostal just get "Anglican Software" and "Pentecostal and Charismatic Software."  They have "Bible Software" for the others with Verbum being the only exception - Verbum has "Powered by Logos Bible Software." Methodist/Wesleyans don't get a base package only products showing under that tradition.  Wow, even SDA has "Bible Software."

Any-who...They must've done those banners in a hurry and left out "Bible Software" on some of the denominational traditions.

So...anyway...what was your point MJ...LOL...ah, yeah...now we know why nobody gets their own sub-forum - we're all pretty much in the same boat and nobody is counted as special more than the other.  So no, no sub-forums for nobody.

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 8:24 PM

MJ. Smith:

Now we know why there's no SUBforum for Baptists. Wink

Logos, better rearrange the wording so that it reads as "Baptist Bible" Software, and not Baptist "Bible Software". Now that we're serving cliches, let's do it the proper way! ;-)

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