The Collected Shorter Writings of J. I. Packer

Ted Hans
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edited December 2024 in English Forum
I would love to see more of
Packer's books in Logos. I am surprised that few of his books are
available. My paper copy carries Paternoster as the publishers and i believe Logos have a good partnership with them. Anyone else interested in seeing more of JI in Logos?

 
  1. Celebrating the Saving Work of God:
    Volume 1 (J.I. Packer Collection) by J.i.
    Packer
  2. Serving the
    People of God: Volume 2 (J.I. Packer Collection) by J.i.
    Packer
  3. Honouring the Written Word of God: The Collected Shorter Writings
    of J. I. Packer by James I.
    Packer
  4. Honouring the People of God: Volume 4 (J.I.
    Packer Collection) by J.i.
    Packer
 

Thanks

 

Ted

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  • Russ Quinn
    Russ Quinn Member Posts: 711 ✭✭

    Knowing God

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    +1 [Y]

    I have the print edition of his shorter writings (all 4 volumes). Packer was one of my profs at Regent College. I'd love to see more of his stuff in Logos. I can't believe they don't have Knowing God yet! Such a classic. Here are more I'd recommend:

    • A Quest for Godliness: The Puritan Vision of the Christian Life
    • God Has Spoken
    • "Fundamentalism" and the Word of God
    • Praying: Finding Our Way Through Duty to Delight

    Also, I'd like to see Alistair McGrath's J. I. Packer: A Biography.

  • Ted Hans
    Ted Hans MVP Posts: 3,174

    • A Quest for Godliness: The Puritan Vision of the Christian Life
    • God Has Spoken
    • "Fundamentalism" and the Word of God
    • Praying: Finding Our Way Through Duty to Delight

    Also, I'd like to see Alistair McGrath's J. I. Packer: A Biography.

    Knowing God

    [Y][Y][Y]

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  • Johnny Cisneros
    Johnny Cisneros Member, Logos Employee Posts: 13

    I got to take systematics from Packer.  What a legend!  

     

    Thanks for the book suggestions...we'll see what we can do.

     

  • Ted Hans
    Ted Hans MVP Posts: 3,174

    Rosie, i hear your Prof. Packer is writing a 3 volume Systematic Theology any
    info on that?

     

    Ted

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  • Russ Quinn
    Russ Quinn Member Posts: 711 ✭✭

    Ted Hans said:

    • A Quest for Godliness: The Puritan Vision of the Christian Life
    • God Has Spoken
    • "Fundamentalism" and the Word of God
    • Praying: Finding Our Way Through Duty to Delight

    Also, I'd like to see Alistair McGrath's J. I. Packer: A Biography.

    Knowing God

    YesYesYes

    I would have to say that Packer's Knowing God is the most influential book on my life and theology written by someone who has lived in my lifetime.

    The Lord put it in my path at just the right time in my life.

    Every chapter is incredible but the chapters on God as Father and God Incarnate are hard to beat.

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I got to take systematics from Packer.  What a legend!  

     

    jcisneros, did you go to Regent? When were you there? Would I know you? (I was there 1996-2004, and still hang around sometimes and audit stuff.)

    Ted Hans said:

    Rosie, i hear your Prof. Packer is writing a 3 volume Systematic Theology any info on that?

    Yes, I understand he is working on what will be his magnum opus. I haven't been in to the college much these days since I'm an alum, and I haven't seen Packer in months, so I haven't asked how it's coming along, and I haven't heard any news through the grapevine. We all hope he finishes it before something finishes him! [:)]  He is still teaching at 83. What a guy!

  • Otto S. Carroll
    Otto S. Carroll Member Posts: 693 ✭✭

    Knowing God

    Knowing God is already available in Logos (besides my Bible, no other book has influenced my life like Knowing God)

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  • Otto S. Carroll
    Otto S. Carroll Member Posts: 693 ✭✭

    +1 Yes

    I have the print edition of his shorter writings (all 4 volumes). Packer was one of my profs at Regent College. I'd love to see more of his stuff in Logos. I can't believe they don't have Knowing God yet! Such a classic. Here are more I'd recommend:

    • A Quest for Godliness: The Puritan Vision of the Christian Life
    • God Has Spoken
    • "Fundamentalism" and the Word of God
    • Praying: Finding Our Way Through Duty to Delight

    Also, I'd like to see Alistair McGrath's J. I. Packer: A Biography.

    Maybe they're not being offered by Logos any more, but I have Knowing God and A Quest for Godliness in my L4 library, as well as Concise Theology, Growing in Christ, and A Passion for Faithfulness by J.I Packer.

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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Maybe they're not being offered by Logos any more, but I have Knowing God and A Quest for Godliness in my L4 library, as well as Concise Theology, Growing in Christ, and A Passion for Faithfulness by J.I Packer.


    I have Concise Theology and Growing in Christ which are still available. Turns out A Quest for Godliness and A Passion for Faithfulness are too. I hadn't noticed and hadn't bought them yet.

    There is also The Theology of the Christian Life in J.I. Packer's Thought by Don J. Payne, which I do have.

  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭


    Knowing God is already available in Logos (besides my Bible, no other book has influenced my life like Knowing God)

    I am jealous Otto.  I've got 3300+ resources but not this one. Like you say, this book has had a profound influence on my life as well.

    Logos 7 Collectors Edition

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Knowing God is already available in Logos (besides my Bible, no other book has influenced my life like Knowing God)

    I am jealous Otto.  I've got 3300+ resources but not this one. Like you say, this book has had a profound influence on my life as well.


    Yeah, I'm envious, too. Otto also has the Columbia Encyclopedia which was discontinued. Let's see Otto. Do you also have the other discontinued product I wish I could get? The Encyclopedia of the Reformed Faith. It was on the Logos 3.0 disk but I never got around to purchasing and unlocking it. And now it's too late. Tried it from L3 the other day and it said "this item cannot be purchase."

  • Johnny Cisneros
    Johnny Cisneros Member, Logos Employee Posts: 13

    jcisneros, did you go to Regent? When were you there? Would I know you? (I was there 1996-2004, and still hang around sometimes and audit stuff.)

    Yeah, I went to Regent (on campus from 2005-2008).  I don't think you'd know me...I commuted from Bellingham so I didn't get a chance to hang out much with folks.

     

  • Otto S. Carroll
    Otto S. Carroll Member Posts: 693 ✭✭

    Do you also have the other discontinued product I wish I could get? The Encyclopedia of the Reformed Faith. It was on the Logos 3.0 disk but I never got around to purchasing and unlocking it. And now it's too late. Tried it from L3 the other day and it said "this item cannot be purchase."

    Yes... I knew about Columbia being discontinued (I responded to an email announcing the last chance to get it). But I had no idea that the others are no longer available.

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  • Otto S. Carroll
    Otto S. Carroll Member Posts: 693 ✭✭

    You may want to check the sites of Logos' publishing partners for Knowing God - my account history show that I bought the Columbia Encyclopedia and the Encyclopedia of the Reformed Faith from Logos in 2006, but there's no record of me purchasing Knowing God from Logos. I can't remember where I got it...

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  • Ted Hans
    Ted Hans MVP Posts: 3,174


    Yeah, I'm envious, too. Otto also has the Columbia Encyclopedia which was discontinued. Let's see Otto. Do you also have the other discontinued product I wish I could get? The Encyclopedia of the Reformed Faith. It was on the Logos 3.0 disk but I never got around to purchasing and unlocking it. And now it's too late. Tried it from L3 the other day and it said "this item cannot be purchase."

    Rosie, if you are interested here is a link to get the Encyclopedia of the Reformed Faith  http://www.discountbible.com/bible-study-software/libronix.html

    Ted

     

     

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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ted Hans said:


    Rosie, if you are interested here is a link to get the Encyclopedia of the Reformed Faith  http://www.discountbible.com/bible-study-software/libronix.html

    Thank you, kind sir!  Now if only I could find someone still selling the Columbia Encyclopedia, I'd be all set!

  • Ted Hans
    Ted Hans MVP Posts: 3,174


    Thank you, kind sir!  Now if only I could find someone still selling the Columbia Encyclopedia, I'd be all set!

    I will have to fight you to get it first [:)], i am still searching for a copy. Otto is a blessed guy, i cannot find Packer on Knowing God[:(]. With all the amount of resources i have in my Logos library, strange that i am missing some Logos products! Well, only discovered Logos in 2007.

    Ted

     

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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ted Hans said:


    With all the amount of resources i have in my Logos library, strange that i am missing some Logos products! Well, only discovered Logos in 2007.

    Just for curiosity, how many resources do you have? I've known about Logos since 1991, pretty early on the timeline, before it was a commercial product (beta tested v0.9 for Bob & Keirnon back when we were all still working for Microsoft together). And I still have "only" 2383 of some 10,000 products that they have available. I've looked pretty thoroughly through the catalog, though, and most of the rest of what they offer is stuff I wouldn't want. However I'm still coming across surprises every once in a while, like those two books of Packer's that I hadn't known they had, and also I just ordered Bible Interpreters of the Twentieth Century.

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ted Hans said:


    With all the amount of resources i have in my Logos library, strange that i am missing some Logos products! Well, only discovered Logos in 2007.

    Just for curiosity, how many resources do you have? I've known about Logos since 1991, pretty early on the timeline, before it was a commercial product (beta tested v0.9 for Bob & Keirnon back when we were all still working for Microsoft together). And I still have "only" 2383 of some 10,000 products that they have available. I've looked pretty thoroughly through the catalog, though, and most of the rest of what they offer is stuff I wouldn't want. However I'm still coming across surprises every once in a while, like those two books of Packer's that I hadn't known they had, and also I just ordered Bible Interpreters of the Twentieth Century.

  • Ted Hans
    Ted Hans MVP Posts: 3,174

    Take a look Rosie but don't tell anyone[:$]. Ted

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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow! And I thought I was a bookaholic. Glad to know I'm outdone by someone, several times over.

  • Ted Hans
    Ted Hans MVP Posts: 3,174

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  • Ted Hans
    Ted Hans MVP Posts: 3,174

    Um...true confession time. How much have you got in your pre-pub basket. Er...

    But, but, I can always delete stuff from it before it ships and I'll never get charged...

    Hi Rosie, i shall be editing and removing my pre-pub page soon. So do not "quote". I hear this can be viewed outside the community via Google.

    Ted

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  • Otto S. Carroll
    Otto S. Carroll Member Posts: 693 ✭✭

    Ted Hans said:

    I will have to fight you to get it first Smile, i am still searching for a copy. Otto is a blessed guy, i cannot find Packer on Knowing GodSad. With all the amount of resources i have in my Logos library, strange that i am missing some Logos products! Well, only discovered Logos in 2007.

    I bought Knowing God as a LLS 2.0 unlock, prior to Logos introducing "Series X" (2001???). In fact, as late as February of last year, it was still in my L3 library in the old LSF/LIX file format (at least on a computer that I stopped using last year); it is now in my L4 as a "lbxlls" file. Thus it appears to me that it was never sold as a "Series X / Libronix" product (after 2001), but just updated to one within the last year. Could explain why it is so hard to find now...

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  • Ted Hans
    Ted Hans MVP Posts: 3,174

    I bought Knowing God as a LLS 2.0 unlock, prior to Logos introducing "Series X" (2001???). In fact, as late as February of last year, it was still in my L3 library in the old LSF/LIX file format (at least on a computer that I stopped using last year); it is now in my L4 as a "lbxlls" file. Thus it appears to me that it was never sold as a "Series X / Libronix" product (after 2001), but just updated to one within the last year. Could explain why it is so hard to find now..

    Thanks for the info Otto much appreciated.

    Ted

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  • Russ Quinn
    Russ Quinn Member Posts: 711 ✭✭

    I wonder what would keep Logos from rereleasing it?

    If it has already been scanned and formatted, this seems like low hanging fruit to me.

    Perhaps there are publisher issues that are not obvious?

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    I wonder what would keep Logos from rereleasing it?

    If it has already been scanned and formatted, this seems like low hanging fruit to me.

    Perhaps there are publisher issues that are not obvious?


    I know it came out in a rereleased 20th anniversary edition with Americanized spellings and a new preface. So if Logos were to rerelease it, they'd probably want to update it to those changes. (Sorry, to our UK brothers and sisters.) Hearing how much customers want something does affect the priority they place on it. But they still need to get the rights from the publisher.

    Maybe they are waiting to do a "Complete Works of Packer" package until his "complete works" are complete. He's said to be working on his magnum opus, a 3 volume systematic theology. Now that would be a book to have in Logos format!

  • Russ Quinn
    Russ Quinn Member Posts: 711 ✭✭

    I know it came out in a rereleased 20th anniversary edition with Americanized spellings and a new preface. So if Logos were to rerelease it, they'd probably want to update it to those changes. 

    Rosie,

    Did you notice that the one in Otto's earlier screenshot is the 20th anniversary edition.


    Maybe they are waiting to do a "Complete Works of Packer" package until his "complete works" are complete. He's said to be working on his magnum opus, a 3 volume systematic theology. Now that would be a book to have in Logos format!

    My counsel to Logos on that issue would be to go ahead and release the individual volume of Knowing God instead of waiting.

    I would venture to guess that most people who would appreciate buying the individual volume now would not let that diminish their enthusiasm for the Complete Works later even if it contains Knowing God. At least that is how I feel about it.

  • Bill Anderson
    Bill Anderson Member Posts: 603 ✭✭

    Knowing God

    The chapter on Sons of God is probably the single chapter of any book that I keep reading over and over.

    Here's how it starts, "What is a Christian? The question can be answered in many ways, but the richest answer I know is that a Christian is one who has God as Father."

    Later in the chapter, "To be right with God the Judge is a great thing [justification], but to be loved and cared for by God the Father is a greater."

    Bill

  • Rosie Perera
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    Did you notice that the one in Otto's earlier screenshot is the 20th anniversary edition.

    No, I'd missed that detail. So it really would be a no-brainer for them to make it available again. It must be a publisher permission issue holding it up. Or perhaps the long list of other resources they've got in pre-pub that are taking all their time!


    Maybe they are waiting to do a "Complete Works of Packer" package until his "complete works" are complete. He's said to be working on his magnum opus, a 3 volume systematic theology. Now that would be a book to have in Logos format!

    My counsel to Logos on that issue would be to go ahead and release the individual volume of Knowing God instead of waiting.

    I would venture to guess that most people who would appreciate buying the individual volume now would not let that diminish their enthusiasm for the Complete Works later even if it contains Knowing God. At least that is how I feel about it.


    I didn't mean to imply that maybe they were waiting on doing Knowing God for a "Complete Works" set -- I was merely making an unrelated comment. I'd love to see a "Complete Works" package, but it wouldn't preclude them producing Knowing God on its own before then. They take into account whatever volumes you already own when you buy a collection, and give you a reduced price for it (not when you're ordering over the web, but if you call and talk to a Sales Rep).

  • Timothy Ha
    Timothy Ha Member Posts: 431 ✭✭

    No news on J.I. Packer's resources?

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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No news on J.I. Packer's resources?

    Come on, he's 85! Let's have it to honor (belatedly) his 85th birthday (which was July 22, 2011).

  • Scot Wright
    Scot Wright Member Posts: 170 ✭✭

    I just completed an audit of J.I. Packer's course on 2 Corinthians and looking for resources found this thread. He'll be 87 in a few weeks! It would be fantastic to celebrate the occasion with more of his writings available in Logos!

  • JPH
    JPH Member Posts: 304 ✭✭

    Come on Logos, break the Packer-Stott-Ladd curse!  [:P]