New Feature: Factbook Bible Books

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Ray from Faithlife | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Oct 25 2014 10:39 AM

What is it?

Get information on every book in the Bible—fast. Learn about authorship, genre, setting, form, content, and more for all 66 books in the Bible.

How does it work? 

The Factbook is a growing library that allows user to add supplemental volumes for special areas of interest. Two of the supplemental volumes available for Logos 6 are the Bible Facts Notable People and the Bible Facts Book Guides. These volumes contain new data as well as data tagged in commentaries, dictionaries, introductions, biographies, and other related works. The Bible Book Guides present users with survey-level information on each book of the Bible.

Get instant information on every book in the Bible. The new Factbook Bible Book Guides dataset brings together the best information from across your library, and offers overviews of every biblical book, including themes, events, origin, authorship, genre, meaning, and much more.

Get links to dictionary articles for further exploration, add professionally designed slides to your next presentation, put each book in historical context by jumping straight to the Timeline, and much more.

This new dataset is your launching pad for in-depth biblical exploration.

Where can I learn more? 

 This video shows the Bible Book Guide in action.

And this video gives a little more context to the Factbook in general.

How do I get it? 

This feature is included in Core Crossgrade and all Bronze-level packages and higher. all Crossgrades and all Base Package levels that include this feature.

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Ryan | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 3 2014 1:11 AM

I absolutely LOVE this feature! One of my favorites of L6.

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GaoLu | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 3 2014 2:31 AM

Yes

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 3 2014 5:06 AM

Agreed.  I also like the pre-made book slides as well.  Very useful!

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Paul Meathrel | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 3 2014 5:09 AM

Great feature, although the list of options needs some refinement as typing "1 Timothy" doesn't produce any results for this book. Instead you have to type "first letter to timothy"...

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Paul Meathrel:

Great feature, although the list of options needs some refinement as typing "1 Timothy" doesn't produce any results for this book. Instead you have to type "first letter to timothy"...

We plan to fix this in a future update.

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Fred Greco | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 3 2014 7:11 PM

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):

Paul Meathrel:

Great feature, although the list of options needs some refinement as typing "1 Timothy" doesn't produce any results for this book. Instead you have to type "first letter to timothy"...

We plan to fix this in a future update.

I hope you can make more options for each book. It's like a guessing game: "Book of Habakkuk" but "Gospel of John" but "Epistle of Romans". There should be an easy way or at least prompt options to find what you need.

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Ryan | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 4 2014 9:51 AM

Fred Greco:

I hope you can make more options for each book. It's like a guessing game: "Book of Habakkuk" but "Gospel of John" but "Epistle of Romans". There should be an easy way or at least prompt options to find what you need.

Agreed. When I type in "Peter" I can get smart search results for the witnesses who witnessed his denial or information about his sword, but the option for the books of either 1st or 2nd Peter are not listed.

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Ryan | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 4 2014 10:27 PM

I was excited this morning when I saw the updates to several databases. I was hoping this would fix the problem, but it seems we must wait for a future update.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 4 2014 11:37 PM

Fred Greco:
I hope you can make more options for each book. It's like a guessing game: "Book of Habakkuk" but "Gospel of John" but "Epistle of Romans". There should be an easy way or at least prompt options to find what you need.

Prefixing the search with "<topic" often helps eg

It doesn't work for all cases - "<topic john" doesn't find the Gospel of John, for example

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 5 2014 2:18 AM

It would be great to have one facebook for the entire bible, among more general information lists links to all the other bible books' factbook.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 5 2014 2:28 AM

Okay ... I'll meet expectations ... Who's entire Bible? I nominate the Ethiopian Tawedo Orthodox Church's ... although some Armenian Bibles would be fun too.

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 5 2014 2:38 AM

MJ. Smith:

Okay ... I'll meet expectations ... Who's entire Bible? I nominate the Ethiopian Tawedo Orthodox Church's ... although some Armenian Bibles would be fun too.

good point :-). I guess having links to discussing the various canons would work but getting into listing all the books would get more complicated.  You could have one factbook that links to factbooks on each canon composition, that links to the books in that canon. Or we could make a reading list.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 5 2014 2:50 AM

Ryan B:
I was excited this morning when I saw the updates to several databases. I was hoping this would fix the problem, but it seems we must wait for a future update.

It will need a program update to fix this.

In the meantime, if you're stuck you can use your topic guide. and then click the factbook link from there. Bible books are more likely to appear at the top of the list in the topic guide, and even if they don't it will be in the list somewhere. Factbook shows you much fewer options in the list.

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Ryan | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 5 2014 2:53 AM

Ohhh great workaround! Thanks for the tip Mark.

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Sean Boisen | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 5 2014 10:35 AM

Halo Hound:

It would be great to have one facebook for the entire bible, among more general information lists links to all the other bible books' factbook.

Our long-term vision is to curate Factbook pages (a bit more like Wikipedia), so each page will have a distinct character and draw in additional material for its particular subject. That will enable us to go beyond the current standardized report. For example, the Factbook page on Tribes of Israel should list them and link to their individual pages. But this is an enormous editorial task, so it will be some time before we get there.

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Bob Soule | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 5 2014 10:53 AM

Are the flags in the events section going to be eventually linked to the timeline tool?

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toughski | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 5 2014 11:42 AM

Sean Boisen:
Our long-term vision is to curate Factbook pages (a bit more like Wikipedia), so each page will have a distinct character and draw in additional material for its particular subject. That will enable us to go beyond the current standardized report. For example, the Factbook page on Tribes of Israel should list them and link to their individual pages. But this is an enormous editorial task, so it will be some time before we get there.

sorry, but this "project" is nothing but "favorites" albeit more visual. From what I see on the upgrade page it's price is $0.00. I would hate for you to spend  "enormous editorial" resources and give it away for free, when users can do their own work (and definitely get more out of it).

I am for Logos to assist me in Bible study. I am against Logos (editorial team) doing the Bible study for me.

Keep it simple, keep it automated and spend your resources elsewhere

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Sean Boisen | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 5 2014 12:10 PM

toughski:

sorry, but this "project" is nothing but "favorites" albeit more visual. From what I see on the upgrade page it's price is $0.00. I would hate for you to spend  "enormous editorial" resources and give it away for free, when users can do their own work (and definitely get more out of it).

I am for Logos to assist me in Bible study. I am against Logos (editorial team) doing the Bible study for me.

Keep it simple, keep it automated and spend your resources elsewhere

One of our primary product strategies in assisting users with Bible study is to provide convenient access to the information in their library. By all means, you should directly study the text and do your own analysis wherever possible. But many people lack the time, background, or inclination to do it all for themselves, and so many of our datasets offer them our editorial analysis in a wide variety of areas (linguistic, topical, practical, or others).

You could argue (and some have) that parsing the morphology of the Greek text, or collecting cross-references, is "doing Bible Study for you". If you don't want that analysis, or if you don't agree with it, you certainly don't have to use it. But for many people, this is a key value that they can't get anywhere else. That includes identifying the most important information about particular subjects and the most useful library content that's related: we want to make that information easily available. I see that as very different from just listing favorites.

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toughski | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 5 2014 2:07 PM

Sean Boisen:
One of our primary product strategies in assisting users with Bible study is to provide convenient access to the information in their library.

What is the usage/workflow difference between Basic Search, Topic Guide and Bible Facts/Factbook?

What frustrates me is that often I look up words or concepts that exist as headwords in ISBE or other dictionaries for example, but they've been excluded from BibleFacts/Factbook, so I have to look things up in multiple places in Logos, instead of one.

BibleFacts/Factbook seems as a perfect candidate to "absorb" all dictionaries in one's Library and be the "front" for them, but SMARTER, utilizing Logos Controlled Vocabulary, being more visual, etc.

Sean Boisen:
But many people lack the time, background, or inclination to do it all for themselves, and so many of our datasets offer them our editorial analysis in a wide variety of areas (linguistic, topical, practical, or others).

I have a major theological problem with your philosophy, but would leave it for another forum.

Sean Boisen:
That includes identifying the most important information about particular subjects and the most useful library content that's related: we want to make that information easily available. I see that as very different from just listing favorites.

you misunderstood me: I meant USERS identifying the most important information (to them) about particular subjects, and the most useful library content (to them), and using Favorites feature to do it.

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