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Jim Pierce | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 20 2019 5:04 AM

How do you run Logos in Verbum mode? This looks interesting, since I'm a Catholic professional. Thanks.

Jim

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 20 2019 5:25 AM

Jim Pierce:
How do you run Logos in Verbum mode?

Use the command "set verbum to yes" in the command box

See https://community.logos.com/forums/t/173968.aspx for a discussion on this.

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 20 2019 6:32 AM

Craig St. Clair (Faithlife):
Right now, the differences between the Verbum and Logos software have more to do with the resources than the actual software functionality.  That difference will grow in the future, as the Verbum software is refined and focused on how Catholics approach Scripture, worship, and ministry, not to mention theology. 

I'm not a Verbumite, but I'd hope FL moves a little faster in this direction. I'd think Catholic is the easier test-bed for integrating spirituality into software. Protestant, much more difficult.

"I didn't know God made honky tonk angels."

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JoeW | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 10 2020 9:40 PM

Hi Craig (or anyone who can help),

I just came across this forum after spending several hrs on the Logos, and then, Verbum sites.   It was quite confusing — and still is to some extent. I am going through the diaconal formation process (Maronite Catholic) and currently run 2-3 parish Bible studies each year.   My interests lie in Catholic commentaries, Early Fathers, some lexical resources, and biblical and systematic theology.

The packages that SEEM appealing to me are the following:  (1) St. Paul Center 3, (2) Verbum 8 Silver, (3) Verbum 8 Academic.    They all have some products I don’t need/want and all are missing some products that I do want.   Ugghh.    So, I’m also considering Verbum 8 Starter and adding the products I’d like to have.    So here’s my question: to add products, are there small-bundle product “packages” that can be purchased?  Because it appears that the only option available is to add products “piecemeal” at individual pricing.

Is my observation correct?

Thanks,

Joe

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 10 2020 10:16 PM

Welcome to the forums - always delighted to have an Eastern Rite individual added to the mix.

I assume that you have decided that those packages are closer to your needs than Verbum Eastern Rite or Ordinairate (less likely). The packages are usually at a sufficient discount that it is cheaper to buy the package with everything you don't want than to purchase what you do want ... but that depends very much on precisely what you need ... and yes, there are a number of bundled resources that are cheaper than the individual price but with less of a discount than a full package.

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JoeW | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 10 2020 10:53 PM

Thanks MJ. 

The Eastern Rite pkg appears to have a considerable amount of Orthodox resources.   Unfortunately, that is less helpful to me as a Catholic. 

Is there any link to mini-pkgs, you can point me to merely as examples, that would be avb to add to the Verbum 8 Silver or St. Paul Center 3?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 11 2020 12:23 AM

Joseph Waked:
  Unfortunately, that is less helpful to me as a Catholic. 

This statement surprises me as most of the Eastern Rite Catholic priests I know use a fair number of Orthodox resources, including catechisms - but those I know are Melkite, Maronite, and Coptic - two of them dual rite.

typical bundles:

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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Larry Craig | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 11 2020 5:04 AM

Hi Joe

Most products are also contained in bundles.  Check down on the product page.  Get to know a Logos sales rep.  I use Angela.  They can often save you money.  I bought a lot of bundles.  I was looking primarily for commentary sets.  Saved a lot of money.  You have to know what you really want.  Do the math based on that, and the rest are freebies.  It helps too a lot of times to be patient.  For example, March Madness is coming up.  You might find a lot of what you want there.  Put things you want into your wish list, so you keep track of them.  If you need something immediately, call your rep, or buy it if it's on sale.  The rest can wait.

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Craig St. Clair (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 11 2020 10:39 AM

Joe,

I'd suggest starting here: https://verbum.com/product/171296/verbum-8-clergy-starter

I've worked with a lot of deacons who have found this package a good place to start (I also designed it to be a good starting place for clergy, hence the name).

You could then add on any number of commentary or Patristic sets, like Larry mentioned, depending on what you want.  Or you could upgrade into Verbum 8 Silver or something more.  Again, all depends on what you want.

 There are lots of people here in the forums that can be a great help.  I would also suggest starting a new forum post here in the Catholic products forum.  More people will find it that way and be able to offer you advice.

Blessings on your diaconal formation!

--Craig

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JoeW | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 11 2020 11:37 AM

Larry Craig:

Hi Joe

Most products are also contained in bundles.  Check down on the product page.  Get to know a Logos sales rep.  I use Angela.  They can often save you money.  I bought a lot of bundles.  I was looking primarily for commentary sets.  Saved a lot of money.  You have to know what you really want.  Do the math based on that, and the rest are freebies.  It helps too a lot of times to be patient.  For example, March Madness is coming up.  You might find a lot of what you want there.  Put things you want into your wish list, so you keep track of them.  If you need something immediately, call your rep, or buy it if it's on sale.  The rest can wait.

I appreciate the advice Larry.  Thank you. 
Do you just call the cust svc number and ask for a rep?

I think I know what I’d like to get.  It’ll be the Verbum: St. Paul Center 3 library.   And I would like to add the Catholic Commentary bundle, as well as, complete the Early Fathers library (which the St. Paul Ctr library includes 14 of the 37 volumes).  

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 11 2020 12:48 PM

Joseph Waked:

Do you just call the cust svc number and ask for a rep?

For complex purchases, like the potential one you describe, I use email. It's a bit slower, but I'm not stuck on hold and everything's in writing.

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Larry Craig | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 11 2020 5:28 PM

You would call sales rather than customer service.  CS is for solving problems.  There are a lot of good sales people who will help you save money.  Don't hesitate to call them when buying stuff.  The more you buy, the more likely they can give you a deal.  Angela, the rep I mentioned, is a Verbum specialist.  Ask her about her daughter, Sparrow.  New born.

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