Upcoming Resource Update : 1/12/2010

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Amelia A Price | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 13 2010 6:24 PM

Thank you very much for posting this list. Can you tell me, what is the proceedure if some of these resourses do not come up in a search by title in the library? I have Scholars Platinum. And I did restart before I started looking for individual titles. Thanks again.

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 13 2010 6:27 PM

PastorAmeliaAShivers:

Thank you very much for posting this list. Can you tell me, what is the proceedure if some of these resourses do not come up in a search by title in the library? I have Scholars Platinum. And I did restart before I started looking for individual titles. Thanks again.

These are updated resources.  Not new ones.  You should only get updated versions of what you already have a license for.

Wiki Links: Enabling Logging / Detailed Search Help - MacBook Pro (2014), ThinkPad E570

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Daniel Bender | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 13 2010 6:38 PM

I downloaded the update this morning (1.1 gig for me) but indexing is taking forever. Before church this evening I had aprox 1 hr and 37 min left of indexing. Three hours later it says that I have 26 hours to go. How can this be? Anyone else having problems indexing?

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Amelia A Price | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 13 2010 6:39 PM

thanks - was assuming some of them were in that package, but they aren't. Thanks again.

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John Bengtson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 13 2010 10:17 PM

Jason,

  Why do I have to go looking for this kind of update information on a website...why can't it be available readily from within the program's standard interface, like it used to be in v3?  A step backward in my opinion.

    John Bengtson

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Andreas Holmberg | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 1:08 PM

I totally agree with John Bengtson. Information should be displayed within the progarm or via e-mail.

Also I have the feeling new resources have been added. I have Scholars and after the update I have an additional five resources. One is the NT backgound that became live today after being pre-pub, but what are the other four new resources. It's next to impossible to make that out reading the exntesive list at the beginning of this thread. New resourecs are nice but they're even nicer if I know what they are.

Andreas Holmberg

Pastor in Stockholm, Church of Sweden

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Dominick Sela | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 2:02 PM

Andreas Holmberg:

I totally agree with John Bengtson. Information should be displayed within the program or via e-mail.

Also I have the feeling new resources have been added. I have Scholars and after the update I have an additional five resources. One is the NT background that became live today after being pre-pub, but what are the other four new resources. It's next to impossible to make that out reading the extensive list at the beginning of this thread. New resources are nice but they're even nicer if I know what they are.

Andreas Holmberg

In the short term, go to your Resources folder, order it my date, and you will see the most recent resources added new or modified.  Now in this update you may have 80-90 new ones.  Anyway, if you still have Logos 3, you can open there by filename and see what they are.

Now that certainly is non-trivial and not user friendly to be sure; in the longer term, Bob has suggested that under the Library, there will be a column added called "Last Updated" and then you can see the latest updates right in your Library view! So be patient...

Bob's quote here and discussion of this issue - http://community.logos.com/forums/p/9325/74332.aspx#74332

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John Bengtson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 2:36 PM

OK, but that gives me information after the fact.  Not useful if I want to know whether suffering through an extended download is worthwhile to me vs. deferring it.  With v3 you can make an informed decision.

In any case I'm not using v4 regularly yet because (unbelievably) it still can't import all my notes from v3.  That's an absolute bedrock critical function for me, as I use Logos first thing in the morning for my daily Bible reading/study.  If I'd known notes transfer wasn't yet available, I certainly wouldn't have been an early purchaser.

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 3:07 PM

JohnBengtson:
In any case I'm not using v4 regularly yet because (unbelievably) it still can't import all my notes from v3.  That's an absolute bedrock critical function for me, as I use Logos first thing in the morning for my daily Bible reading/study.  If I'd known notes transfer wasn't yet available, I certainly wouldn't have been an early purchaser.

Note importation is in Beta testing right now. So when 4.0b goes gold you will get all your Libronix notes. Or, if you want to Beta test you can get them right now.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 15 2010 7:36 PM

JohnBengtson:

Jason,

  Why do I have to go looking for this kind of update information on a website...why can't it be available readily from within the program's standard interface, like it used to be in v3?  A step backward in my opinion.

Libronix wasn't consistently friendly about resource updates. You would get some via Libronix Update where the information was in its dialog box. Then came a Resource Update script with the same interface, but we initially (v1?, v2, and early v3) had to use tailored FTP programs to get all the updates!  A lot of update info came via the Newsgroup! 

It wasn't "available readily from within the program's standard interface" but it is a good suggestion for L4.

 

Dave
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John Bengtson | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 15 2010 7:46 PM

Hmmm...when I say "Tools" / "Libronix Update" in v3, I get a list of what it proposes to download.  That's "readily available...standard interface" in my book.

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SteveF | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 15 2010 9:03 PM

JohnBengtson:
"Tools" / "Libronix Update" in v3, I get a list of what it proposes to download

That is true, John.

BUT in addition to  "Libronix Update" there were another 3 update scripts as well that were not as easy to access. Once you had them they were easy to use. But they were hard to find as they were not available from within Libronix 3.  As one who complained loudly (and with much frustration) I do thank Logos for truly trying to simplify this process.

Richard (and David Hooten)  have a list of them that they often copy into Forum Posts for confused Libronix 3 installers. The "data Files" and "Add-ins" were not that big a deal once you had them in, But it was the last one 'Resources" that was often missed. These were newer rebuilt or newly added resource files from the ftp site. It often took Logos a great deal of time (if ever) to get these into the Libronix Update which mainly seemed to upgrade the Logos "engine' rather than the newer resources.

Regards

Steve

Update to latest version of LDLS (3.0g)

http://www.logos.com/media/update/30gAutoUpdate.lbxupd


Update LDLS Addins

http://www.logos.com/media/update/LogosAddinsAutoUpdate.lbxupd


Update LDLS DataFile types

http://www.logos.com/media/update/DataFilesAutoUpdate.lbxupd


Update LDLS Resources
http://www.logos.com/media/update/ResourceAutoUpdate.lbxupd

 

Regards, SteveF

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 15 2010 9:14 PM

JohnBengtson:

Hmmm...when I say "Tools" / "Libronix Update" in v3, I get a list of what it proposes to download.  That's "readily available...standard interface" in my book.

I want people to know that L3's approach to resource updates was never totally integrated. But it is a model that many people would like for to have for downloads in L4.

Dave
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John Bengtson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2010 10:08 AM

Steve -- excellent explanation, thanks.  I've been using what came easily in v3, and didn't know there were other components left un-updated unless I went to extra effort.  Thanks again.

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SteveF | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2010 11:43 AM

JohnBengtson:
Thanks again.

You are very welcome John.

Whatever our struggles etc with the new Logos 4, I do want to "praise" the many wonderful things Libronix 3 did.

But this particular muli-faceted way of making sure things were up to date did give me some "issues."

Regards

Steve

Regards, SteveF

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Pytrice Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 18 2010 6:47 AM

Thank you so much for the information. It's helpful to know what is being updated. Hope you'll continue to do these kind of posts in the future.

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