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Ted Hans | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Jan 13 2010 11:11 AM

Old Testament works i would love to see in Logos. Thanks

 

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  1. Old Testament Today: A Journey from Original Meaning to Contemporary Significance by Andrew E. Hill (Author), John H. Walton (Author)
  1. A Survey of the Old Testament (Second Edition) by Andrew E. Hill (Author), John H. Walton (Author)
  1. The Old Testament Explained and Applied: An Overview of the First 39 Books of the Bible by Gareth Crossley (Author)
  1. Discovering the New Testament: Community and Faith by Alex Varughese (Author)
  1. The Concept of Biblical Theology: An Old Testament Perspective by James Barr (Author) 
  1. Discovering the Old Testament: Story and Faith by Robert Branson (Author), et al.
  1. The Story of Israel: A Biblical Theology by J. Scott Duvall (Author),  
  1. God's Design: A Focus on Old Testament Theology by Elmer A. Martens (Author 
  1. Old Testament Times by R. K. Harrison (Author) 
  1. Biblical Theology of the Old and New Testaments: Theological Reflection on the Christian Bible by Brevard S. Childs (Author)
  1. Introduction to the Old Testament As Scripture by Brevard S. Childs (Author)
  1. Old Testament Theology in a Canonical Context by Brevard S. Childs (Author) 
  1. Old Testament Theology: Its History, Method, and Message by Ralph L. Smith (Author)
  1. Ancient Israelite Literature in Its Cultural Context by John H. Walton (Author)
  2. The Bible among the Myths: Unique Revelation or Just Ancient Literature? by John N. Oswalt 
  1. The Early History of God: Yahweh and the Other Deities in Ancient Israel (Biblical Resource Series) by Mark S. Smith (Author) 
  1. Old Testament Parallels: Laws And Stories from the Ancient Near East by Victor H. Matthews (Author), Don C. Benjamin 
  1. Ancient Near Eastern Thought and the Old Testament: Introducing the Conceptual World of the Hebrew Bible by John H. Walton (Author)
  1. Pentateuch as Narrative, The by John H. Sailhamer
  1. Introduction to Old Testament Theology: A Canonical Approach by John H. Sailhamer

 

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 13 2010 11:32 AM

Ted Hans:
Introduction to the Old Testament by R. K. Harrison (Author) 

This is available in this collection: http://www.logos.com/products/details/3647

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 13 2010 1:01 PM

Ted Hans:
Old Testament works i would love to see in Logos. Thanks

In L3 the separation of the Penatateuch into its various strands according to Otto Eissfeldt could be displayed in AFAT by color coding.  This hasn't been carried over into L4.  I would like to see that re-instated together with the publication of Eissfeldt's Introduction.

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Ted Hans | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 13 2010 5:55 PM

Todd Phillips:

Ted Hans:
Introduction to the Old Testament by R. K. Harrison (Author) 

This is available in this collection: http://www.logos.com/products/details/3647

Thanks Todd for pointing that out to me.

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T MacLeod | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 5:36 AM

George Somsel:

Ted Hans:
Old Testament works i would love to see in Logos. Thanks

In L3 the separation of the Penatateuch into its various strands according to Otto Eissfeldt could be displayed in AFAT by color coding.  This hasn't been carried over into L4.  I would like to see that re-instated together with the publication of Eissfeldt's Introduction.

I might have misunderstood you, but I think you can accomplish this with a visual filter:

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 6:04 AM

T MacLeod:

George Somsel:

In L3 the separation of the Penatateuch into its various strands according to Otto Eissfeldt could be displayed in AFAT by color coding.  This hasn't been carried over into L4.  I would like to see that re-instated together with the publication of Eissfeldt's Introduction.

I might have misunderstood you, but I think you can accomplish this with a visual filter:

Whoa! Where'd you get that funky undocumented syntax? Cool! What other keywords besides EissfeldtHexateuch are there? I couldn't even find any references to EissfeldtHexateuch anywhere on the web, let alone on logos.com.

I created a Visual filter exactly like that one, and it doesn't show up on my Visual Filters drop-down menu in any of my Bibles. Are there only certain Bibles where it will work?

I'm using 4.0b Beta 3, so it's possible something is broken.

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 6:19 AM

Rosie Perera:

Whoa! Where'd you get that funky undocumented syntax? Cool! What other keywords besides EissfeldtHexateuch are there? I couldn't even find any references to EissfeldtHexateuch anywhere on the web, let alone on logos.com.

I created a Visual filter exactly like that one, and it doesn't show up on my Visual Filters drop-down menu in any of my Bibles. Are there only certain Bibles where it will work?

I'm using 4.0b Beta 3, so it's possible something is broken.

It only works with AFAT (The Hebrew Bible : Andersen-Forbes Analyzed Text). You can see the extra tagging in the right click menu in that resource:

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 6:54 AM

Todd Phillips:

It only works with AFAT (The Hebrew Bible : Andersen-Forbes Analyzed Text). You can see the extra tagging in the right click menu in that resource:

Thanks! I have noticed over the years (even prior to L4) that there are certain bits of hidden knowlege about what special features different books have that are not evident from looking at the text. Is there a list somewhere of all the books that have special hidden features? For example, ESV and NASB95 (and some others) have Reverse Interlinear, AFAT has the Eisssfeldt Hexateuch tagging, KJV has Strong's numbers. Which Bibles have Anderson-Forbes morphological tagging, which have Logos Greek Morphology tagging, which have Westminster Hebrew Morphology, which have genre tagging, etc? What special search fields they have (I think these are usually documented in the info panels for each resource), e.g., ESV lets you search on "words-of-christ" but not all Bibles do. Is it only Bibles that have these hidden tags, or do some of the other book types have them too, and if so, what are they?

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 7:43 AM

Todd Phillips:

Rosie Perera:

Whoa! Where'd you get that funky undocumented syntax? Cool! What other keywords besides EissfeldtHexateuch are there? I couldn't even find any references to EissfeldtHexateuch anywhere on the web, let alone on logos.com.

I created a Visual filter exactly like that one, and it doesn't show up on my Visual Filters drop-down menu in any of my Bibles. Are there only certain Bibles where it will work?

I'm using 4.0b Beta 3, so it's possible something is broken.

It only works with AFAT (The Hebrew Bible : Andersen-Forbes Analyzed Text). You can see the extra tagging in the right click menu in that resource:

I followed your example faithfully, but it doesn't seem to work for me.  Even in your example above it looks rather funky.  The Color by Eissfeldt in L3 was much better in that it affected only the text and not the background.  I still think they should bring it back.

george
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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 8:01 AM

George Somsel:
I followed your example faithfully, but it doesn't seem to work for me.  Even in your example above it looks rather funky.  The Color by Eissfeldt in L3 was much better in that it affected only the text and not the background.  I still think they should bring it back.

George, you can use any highlight style you want.  Also, the filter didn't highlight text marked as "Lay" or "Lay (Poetry)", so those sections would stay black, but you could add them to the filter.  (I also needed a space in the "Elohist (Poetry)" value instead of "Elohist(Poetry)" in my example).  And make sure you're looking in the pentateuch...it doesn't work elsewhere. EDIT: It works in the Hexateuch (Pentateuch + Joshua), and Jeremiah is tagged with different set of sources, as well.

How does this look instead?

 

Oh, and make sure the filter is checked in the resource:

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Bobby Terhune | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 8:20 AM

Todd,
Thank you so much for showing how to do this, I had no idea this was even possible!

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 8:26 AM

I also had to add a few more items to the filter (Priestly (Poetry); Yahwist (Poetry); "Begegnung"; and "Begegnung" (Poetry) -- I needed the quotes around Begegnung in both cases) in order to cover all of the Pentateuch with coloring. And even then, I found that there are some gaps: a few scattered qophs that are raised above the line that have no Eissfeldt tagging. What are these? They do not appear in BHS. Are they some sort of apparatus? (This is in Genesis 30.)

Sorry, Ted. Looks like we've totally hijacked this thread.Surprise

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 8:40 AM

BobbyTerhune:

Todd,
Thank you so much for showing how to do this, I had no idea this was even possible!

I didn't either until "T MacLeod" pointed it out. 

There's a video on this page: http://www.logos.com/sbl that discusses searching the source tags in AFAT in L3 (second video).  I saw there that it shows the possible values for the AFAT tagging in the Syntax Search builder.  Here are the EissfeldtHexateuch source values in the L4 Syntax Search window:

So there you go.  I don't know what they all mean.  It looks like Jeremiah is tagged for sources too.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 8:43 AM

Todd Phillips:

It looks like Jeremiah is tagged for sources too.

Joshua, too.

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 8:47 AM

Rosie Perera:

Todd Phillips:

It looks like Jeremiah is tagged for sources too.

Joshua, too.

That would make sense since they are from Eissfeldt's Hexateuch.  Also, there are large sections in Exodus that are tagged Covenant.  So if you didn't include that, you wouldn't see tagging there.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 8:52 AM

Todd Phillips:

Rosie Perera:

Todd Phillips:

It looks like Jeremiah is tagged for sources too.

Joshua, too.

That would make sense since they are from Eissfeldt's Hexateuch.

Yes, I just figured out that's what that meant after posting about Joshua. At first I thought it has something to do with six different types of source material. I'd only known about JEDP from my seminary studies, and then I found Lay and Begegnung in AFAT, so I thought that made up the six. But you blew that theory out of the water by showing me the panel from the syntax search. So then it finally dawned on me.  Duh:  Pentateuch ~ Hexateuch.  I guess I knew that before but was regressing...

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 8:55 AM

Rosie Perera:
Yes, I just figured out that's what that meant after posting about Joshua. At first I thought it has something to do with six different types of source material. I'd only known about JEDP from my seminary studies, and then I found Lay and Begegnung in AFAT, so I thought that made up the six. But you blew that theory out of the water by showing me the panel from the syntax search. So then it finally dawned on me.  Duh:  Pentateuch ~ Hexateuch.  I guess I knew that before but was regressing...

Yeah I was about to comment on why it was called EissfeldtHexateuch if only the Pentateuch was tagged.  Good thing I didn't before I saw your post.  (I shouldn't post my assumptions.)

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 10:30 AM

Todd Phillips:

George Somsel:
I followed your example faithfully, but it doesn't seem to work for me.  Even in your example above it looks rather funky.  The Color by Eissfeldt in L3 was much better in that it affected only the text and not the background.  I still think they should bring it back.

George, you can use any highlight style you want.  Also, the filter didn't highlight text marked as "Lay" or "Lay (Poetry)", so those sections would stay black, but you could add them to the filter.  (I also needed a space in the "Elohist (Poetry)" value instead of "Elohist(Poetry)" in my example).  And make sure you're looking in the pentateuch...it doesn't work elsewhere. EDIT: It works in the Hexateuch (Pentateuch + Joshua), and Jeremiah is tagged with different set of sources, as well.

How does this look instead?

 

Oh, and make sure the filter is checked in the resource:

It looks better than your previous example.  It's simply too bad that it doesn't appear on my screen.  Of course I know that it only works in the Pentateuch.  You forget that the OT is my field.  When in cemetary I bought Eissfeldt, Bentzen, and numerous other introductions so I'm quite familiar with them.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 7:42 PM

George Somsel:
When in cemetary I bought Eissfeldt

Now this is a typo that can't be resisted ... above or below ground?

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 7:54 PM

MJ. Smith:

George Somsel:
When in cemetary I bought Eissfeldt

Now this is a typo that can't be resisted ... above or below ground?

I'm sure it wasn't a typo but intentional. I've seen many seminary grads jokingly call it cemetary.

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