Why aren't there more works from Oxford University Press?

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Dan | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Nov 25 2014 7:32 PM

Many works from Oxford University Press (OUP) are extremely valuable to the field of biblical studies, particularly their encyclopedias (books of the bible, bible and archaeology, etc.). Are there plans to make these resources available in Logos?

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 25 2014 7:36 PM

I am still waiting for them to get the New Oxford Annotated Bible... One of the most glaring omissions.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 25 2014 7:51 PM

Yes

I've often requested books from OUP. Here's my biggest list of important titles, and here's another list.

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Dan | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 26 2014 7:03 PM

Indeed!

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Gabe Martini (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 26 2014 7:28 PM

There's twenty nine Pre-Pubs that need some interest at the moment. We'd love to continue expanding our assortment from Oxford, but that can only happen if we keep paying them! Smile

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 26 2014 7:40 PM

Gabe Martini:

There's twenty nine Pre-Pubs that need some interest at the moment. We'd love to continue expanding our assortment from Oxford, but that can only happen if we keep paying them! Smile

I have pre-pub orders in for several of these collections, but the collections of scholarly monographs are too specific and expensive for me to be interested.

However I did discover on that list Anglicanism: A Very Short Introduction which I hadn't known you were offering yet. So thanks! I've put in an order for that.

I wonder if there's ever going to come a time when you can offer books unbundled from the get-go. It gets harder and harder to justify buying bundles of random assortments of books now that I've already got such a large library. I'll be looking to cherry-pick additional titles, not buy up more and more collections.

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Gabe Martini (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 26 2014 7:46 PM

Rosie, you're right that these monographs are expensive. That's one of the main reasons having them in our format is so important—value. For example, the two books on Symeon the New Theologian are over $300 in print (even from Amazon). But on Pre-Pub, they're $59.95 as a set.

While many of the areas of study are niche or of interest only to scholars and historians of certain backgrounds, they are such a great value hopefully others will give them a chance and expand their Logos library with a few selections.

We are also looking to get more reference works, Bibles, and other publications from Oxford, but it really is important that we show them people are interested in their titles before we expand further.

I definitely agree we don't always need to do a large bundle, and we're trying more and more to offer new Pre-Pubs both individually and as a set (for those who want them all at a greater discount).

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 26 2014 7:58 PM

Gabe Martini:
We are also looking to get more reference works, Bibles, and other publications from Oxford, but it really is important that we show them people are interested in their titles before we expand further.

I would have thought it would be better to have started with the reference works since those would have broader appeal. But now that you've got these pre-pubs on offer, I can understand why you need to show to Oxford that there's enough interested before they'll be willing to deal with you further. It's just a pity that the titles multiple people have been asking for like The New Oxford Annotated Bible weren't among the first used to test the waters. Oh well, praying that some of these go through so we can get more options.

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Gabe Martini (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 26 2014 8:04 PM

Well, we did start with mostly reference works years ago, such as with their English dictionary, the abridged and full Greek-English Lexicon, and other Bibles like the Catholic and Jewish Study Bibles. Smile

We're definitely working to get everything we can (I would love to have Lampe's lexicon, for example), and believe me, I want this stuff as badly as all of you! Yes

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 26 2014 8:56 PM

Gabe Martini:

Well, we did start with mostly reference works years ago, such as with their English dictionary, the abridged and full Greek-English Lexicon, and other Bibles like the Catholic and Jewish Study Bibles. Smile

We're definitely working to get everything we can (I would love to have Lampe's lexicon, for example), and believe me, I want this stuff as badly as all of you! Yes

Lampe sounds good to me.  Are your knees bloody yet from crawling to beg it to be offered?  Wink

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Gabe Martini (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 26 2014 10:43 PM

George Somsel:

Lampe sounds good to me.  Are your knees bloody yet from crawling to beg it to be offered?  Wink

No, but my arms and legs are tired from swimming across the Pond to get there.

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Dan | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 27 2014 7:41 AM

Very good. I'll be waiting for their reference works. I'm not too interested in having these monographs on Logos (I get those from the library and usually only read selected portions of such works - never touching many of them) - I'm interested solely in the reference works, particularly the Annotated Bible, encyclopedias, etc.

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Louis L Sorenson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 28 2019 3:58 PM
I've had Lawlor and Oulton's commentary on Eusebius' Ecclesiastical History on my shelf for many years. I just bought the Logos Loeb version (Greek/English) of The Ecclesiastical History and started reading the prologue. I've got BDAG, LSJ, and many other Logos lexicons. From the start, I ran up against words I did not know the meaning or range of meanings. Sure, I could look at the English translation in Loeb, but was unable to know the range of meanings of the word, e.g. προυπάρξεώς in line  Β̅  .   Also θεολογίας (Β̅ ) and θεσπεσίοις (Γ̅) also give no entries in BDAG or LSJ. I kind of need Lampe to read Eusebius.

Τάδε ἡ πρώτη περιέχει βίβλος τῆς Ἐκκλησιαστικῆς ἱστορίας

            Α̅      Τίς ἡ τῆς ἐπαγγελίας ὑπόθεσις.
            Β̅      Ἐπιτομὴ κεφαλαιώδης περὶ τῆς κατὰ τὸν σωτῆρα καὶ κύριον ἡμῶν τὸν Χριστὸν τοῦ θεοῦ προυπάρξεώς τε καὶ θεολογίας.
            Γ̅      Ὡς καὶ τὸ Ἰησοῦ ὄνομα καὶ αὐτὸ δὴ τὸ τοῦ Χριστοῦ ἔγνωστό τε ἀνέκαθεν καὶ τετίμητο παρὰ τοῖς θεσπεσίοις προφήταις.
            Δ̅      Ὡς οὐ νεώτερος οὐδὲ ξενίζων ἦν ὁ τρόπος τῆς πρὸς αὐτοῦ καταγγελθείσης πᾶσι τοῖς ἔθνεσιν εὐσεβείας.
            Ε̅      Περὶ τῶν χρόνων τῆς ἐπιφανείας αὐτοῦ τῆς εἰς ἀνθρώπους.
            Ϛ̅      Ὡς κατὰ τοὺς χρόνους αὐτοῦ ἀκολούθως ταῖς προφητείαις ἐξέλιπον ἄρχοντες οἱ τὸ πρὶν ἐκ προγόνων διαδοχῆς τοῦ Ἰουδαίων ἔθνους ἡγούμενοι πρῶτός τε ἀλλόφυλος βασιλεύει αὐτῶν Ἡρῴδης.
            Ζ̅      Περὶ τῆς ἐν τοῖς εὐαγγελίοις νομιζομένης διαφωνίας τῆς περὶ τοῦ Χριστοῦ γενεαλογίας.
            Η̅      Περὶ τῆς Ἡρῴδου κατὰ τῶν παίδων ἐπιβουλῆς καὶ οἵα μετῆλθεν αὐτὸν καταστροφὴ βίου.
            Θ̅      Περὶ τῶν κατὰ Πιλᾶτον χρόνων.
            Ι̅      Περὶ τῶν παρὰ Ἰουδαίοις ἀρχιερέων καθʼ οὓς ὁ Χριστὸς τὴν διδασκαλίαν ἐποιήσατο.
            Ι̅Α̅      Τὰ περὶ Ἰωάννου τοῦ βαπτιστοῦ καὶ τοῦ Χριστοῦ μεμαρτυρημένα.
            Ι̅Β̅      Περὶ τῶν μαθητῶν τοῦ σωτῆρος ἡμῶν.
            Ι̅Γ̅      Ἱστορία περὶ τοῦ τῶν Ἐδεσσηνῶν δυνάστου.
Eusebius. (1926–1932). The Ecclesiastical History and 2: Greek Text. (T. E. Page, E. Capps, W. H. D. Rouse, L. A. Post, & E. H. Warmington, Eds.) (Vol. 1, pp. 2–4). London; New York; Cambridge, MA: William Heinemann; G. P. Putnam’s Sons; Harvard University Press. So I opened Lampe's entry for προυπάρξις and found it could mean: (1) Teaching about God, about the divinity, (2) naming of God, (3) praise, (4) mystical knowledge of God, (5) theology, (6) acknowledgement as God, (7) divinity.  Neither BDAG nor LSJ had any entry on this word. So Lampe is essential for the church fathers and Patrialogia Graeca. Logos does not offer G.W.H. Lampe's A Patristic Greek Lexicon. A TLG subscription (Thesaurus Linguae Graecae) I am told does contain Lampe's A Patristic Greek Lexicon.
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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 28 2019 4:35 PM

Recognizing this is an older thread, I doubt Lampe wiil ever arrive (just being unoptimistic).

Sophicles comes a bit closer, referencing one of your missing friends in Eus II, IV, and VI. Not your preference, but closer.

https://www.logos.com/product/45727/greek-lexicon-of-the-roman-and-byzantine-periods 


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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 28 2019 8:50 PM

Did see in another thread that FL is hoping to get at least the 3rd edition of the Catholic study Bible (which might be partially due to the fact in the past month Accordance has release numerous OUP titles. Even OT has preanounced the Oxford Bible Commentary & the Oxford Bible Dictionary (a less than stellar dictionary resource in my mind), but maybe OUP is more open to their works getting released into Bible software. 

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 1 2019 9:16 AM

I'd like to see an updated dictionary at some point

https://www.logos.com/product/2225/concise-oxford-english-dictionary-11th-ed

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