Developer's Testing Environment Suggestion

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Mike Strawn | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Jan 15 2010 4:15 AM

Without knowing exactly what the MAC L4 Developer's Testing Environment consists of - coming from a former Software and Network Engineering Background - have you considered have a couple of pristine - right-out-of-the-box MAC machines running Leopard and Snow Leopard that could be used for the best-case scenarios? The reason I ask is - I am running a fairly pristine New MacBook Pro with Snow Leopard and most of the reported problems that I read about everyday - I am not experiencing on my machine. With all of the free custom applications and Dashboard applications that people tend to download and run on their MAC's that occupy system resources - I'm wondering if those individual, system-specific applications are contributing to at least some of the problems being reported. It would be curious to know that if the testing system is un-customized - does L4 run more stable? My experience has seemed to indicate that. Another thing to consider - do the errors depend on which level product you are running - in other words do the problems occur more frequently depending on the volume of resources you have in your library? Is there any relationship. It might be helpful to report problems along with a profile of the machine that is running the L4 Software???

Anyway - just my humble opinion.


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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 15 2010 6:15 AM

Apple's Disk Utility can be used to partition hard drives with each one being bootable; volume scheme includes 1 through 16 partitions - holding option key while Macintosh starts up shows list of bootable partitions on internal and external drives with an arrow pointing to default boot partition - can use arrow keys to move arrow, then press enter to boot that partition.

Couple partition could have full set of development tools installed (case sensitive and case insensitive), other partitions could have pristine Mac OS X installations with all Software Updates installed (could include file systems).  

For personal use, like 2 boot partitions that alternate with Mac OS X releases (easy to switch back if new 10.* version has an issue) with one partition for storing stuff.

Apple's Developer Connection offers good prices for new computers.  Since not a Mac Developer, personally like Apple's refurbished Mac's:

Power Max (Portland, OR) has both new and used (trade-in) computers:

Technical observation: for cross platform development, Windows .Net framework seems odd choice for code base since .Net designed for Windows platform and not supported by Microsoft on other platforms.

Noticed several SQLite databases being used by Logos4 - downloaded SQLite database manager extension for FireFox - when database manager running, has its own set of menus.  Wonder if Logos 4 could become a Firefox extension ? (possible option along with standalone application)  preferably without .Net framework - Microsoft .Net Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 silently added an extension to Firefox on Windows platforms that added a critical Internet Explorer security vulnerability (along with being difficult to remove):

By the way, FireFox runs well on variety of platforms and file systems, including case sensitive.  Also like Themes to customize look and feel along with extensions to customize functionality (e.g. NoScript).

Keep Smiling :)

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Terry Poperszky | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 15 2010 6:26 AM

Another reason I wish Apple's licensing allowed for use in a VM environment. Yes, I know it can be done, but it can't be done legally.



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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 15 2010 5:55 PM

Apple's feedback web site includes Mac OS X:

Sent some feedback to Apple:


Problem: formatted Mac OS X boot partition with Case-sensitive, Journaled filesystem - now have 2 applications that crash since they need case preserving, but insensitive file system access for user processes. Wish: Get Info properties for Applications had a check box [ ] Case Sensitive File access. When checked, Case Sensitive behavior used for file access. When unchecked, case preserving file access used. Default value should match boot partition file system format.

Configurability - System Administration Wish Mac OS X offered Zones and Containers like Open Solaris (sharing single kernel while isolating applications) - especially if file system access behavior could be specified per zone. Keep Smiling :)
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J.R. Miller | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 15 2010 6:38 PM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
nsensitive file system
I hate file systems that refuse to put my feelings first... darn those insensitive file systems. Devil

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