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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 27 2017 6:11 AM

Steve:

Currently at 320 votes!  Smile

343 now--closing in on 350, and still the most votes of any request!

"God commands you to pray, but He forbids you to worry." - The Curé d'Ars.

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augustine9989 | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 27 2017 1:25 PM

It would be great to have the Knox bible but this and other books have been there for years. Do we have any evidence of Uservoice votes playing a role in Faithlife's decisions about future titles?

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 29 2017 7:00 AM

Yes. In fact, some such evidence is visible on that UserVoice, mostly in German.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 11 2017 9:09 AM

358 votes, still at the top, and still going up!

"God commands you to pray, but He forbids you to worry." - The Curé d'Ars.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 19 2018 11:49 AM

Over 400 votes, still at the top!

"God commands you to pray, but He forbids you to worry." - The Curé d'Ars.

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Craig St. Clair (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 19 2018 11:52 AM

I'm working on it.  Lots of Verbum irons in the fire with publishers right now.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 19 2018 12:13 PM

Craig St. Clair (Faithlife):

I'm working on it.  Lots of Verbum irons in the fire with publishers right now.

YesYes

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 19 2018 9:11 PM

Thank you so much for this good news. 

-dan

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Donald Antenen (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 20 2018 9:33 AM

I know someone who lovingly calls the Knox translation the "Revised Wodehouse Version". I hope we can add it to Verbum.

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 20 2018 11:44 AM

While it can be quite pithy.... Especially when we get into the psalms and he truly gives us the acrostics in english...

Psalm 118 (Hebrew 119) Shows that while he wished to remain faithful to the text he also tried his best to duplicate what helped make the original so memorable.

81 Keeping watch for thy aid, my soul languishes, yet I trust in thy word. 82 Keeping watch for the fulfilment of thy promise, my eyes languish for comfort still delayed. 83 Kitchen-smoke shrivels the wine-skin; so waste I, yet never forget thy will. 84 Knowest thou not how short are thy servant’s days? Soon be my wrongs redressed. 85 Knaves will be plotting against me still, that are no friends to thy law. 86 Knaves they are that wrong me; bring aid, as thy covenant stands unchanging. 87 Keep thy bidding I would, though small hope of life they had left me. 88 Kind as thou ever wert, preserve me; then utter thy bidding, and I will obey.

Comparing that to the Douay-Rheims Bible which is closer to a literal rendering of the vulgate's latin:

81 My soul hath fainted after thy salvation: and in thy word I have very much hoped. 

82 My eyes have failed for thy word, saying: When wilt thou comfort me? 

83 For I am become like a bottle in the frost: I have not forgotten thy justifications. 

84 How many are the days of thy servant: when wilt thou execute judgment on them that persecute me? 

85 The wicked have told me fables: but not as thy law. 

86 All thy statutes are truth: they have persecuted me unjustly, do thou help me. 

87 They had almost made an end of me upon earth: but I have not forsaken thy commandments. 

88 Quicken thou me according to thy mercy: and I shall keep the testimonies of thy mouth. 

 The Holy Bible, Translated from the Latin Vulgate (Bellingham, WA: Logos Bible Software, 2009), Ps 118:81–88.

-dan

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augustine9989 | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 26 2018 11:25 AM

This is the best news I've I've heard in a long time. So happy to hear that there's some movement on the Knox Bible. I know that you're focused on the ordinary form of the breviary (Liturgy of the Hours) but while you're working with Baronius Press on the Knox Bible, you may also want to look into their 1961 English/Latin edition of the Roman breviary (which is also valid and licit for regular use in the Church today). So many historical resources on Verbum refer to the breviary in its pre-1970 form. Baronius Press's version is a faithful reproduction of old 1963 Collegeville edition but with the Gallican Psalter (instead of the Pian Psalter). I highly recommend it for Verbum. Thanks and Merry Christmas!

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 2 2022 7:27 AM

5. Are you considering selling your titles as ebooks?

We are currently carefully evaluating ways in which to provide our books in eBook format. However, with two columns layout, such as our Daily Missal or Roman Breviary, it is not technically possible at the moment. If you would like to be informed when our titles are released in ebook format, please follow us on Facebook or Twitter or subscribe to our Mailing List.

Something tells me Faithlife has the ability to get around that limitation....

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David Wanat | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 2 2022 8:58 AM

Donald Antenen (Faithlife):

I know someone who lovingly calls the Knox translation the "Revised Wodehouse Version". I hope we can add it to Verbum.

Now I have a mental image of the Bible being narrated by Bernie Wooster 😉

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David J. Ring, Jr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 4 2022 4:38 AM

I received this reply this morning.

Dear Mr. Ring,

As we stated last year, we currently have no plans to make any of our titles available in ebook format, and we have no plans to license our exclusive titles to Faithlife.

Kind regards,

Carlos Palad

Baronius Press

They seem totally opposed to licensing their publications even though Faithlife is able to publish with the formatting they desire.

Best wishes,

DR 

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Kevin Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 4 2022 5:24 AM

Disappointing.

Interestingly, Baronius Press appear to have provided or allowed the provision of the Knox Bible text online here;
http://catholicbible.online/knox?bible_part_no=1&book_no=1&chapter_no=1

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 4 2022 7:46 AM

Kevin Mark:

Disappointing.

Interestingly, Baronius Press appear to have provided or allowed the provision of the Knox Bible text online here;
http://catholicbible.online/knox?bible_part_no=1&book_no=1&chapter_no=1 

  Welcome to the forums.  Please note that a link must have a " " [space] after it to be live. And thanks for the link.

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 4 2022 7:59 AM

Kevin Mark:

Interestingly, Baronius Press appear to have provided or allowed the provision of the Knox Bible text online here;
http://catholicbible.online/knox?bible_part_no=1&book_no=1&chapter_no=1 

Good link.  Knox is interesting; you almost have to have the Vulgate sitting next to it, to see where Knox is coming from:

http://catholicbible.online/side_by_side?bible_part_no=1&book_no=1&chapter_no=1 

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David J. Ring, Jr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 4 2022 3:05 PM

I think they're not steering us in the correct direction.

The people who actually own the rights to publish would be the Archdiocese of Westminster, I've tried to email them without response.

1950, 2012 Archdiocese of Westminster

I admire their physical books, they're beautiful but I don't like their obfuscation, and I think they're being nasty in doing it when all they would have to do is say the Copyright is held by the Archdiocese.

It could be that the Archdiocese in 2012 assigned them complete rights, and the catholicbible.online site acquired rights prior to that time. However the Internet Archive only has archives of them since March 6, 2016.

Also note that Templegate Publishers is publishing Knox's New Testament.  https://www.templegate.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=143&osCsid=bv6u5g4jsqeaf1h6at69qjl863 

Has Faithlife/Logos/Verbum approached the Archdiocese directly?  As I mentioned, I've contacted the person in charge of media publications for the archdiocese but I have never received a reply.

DR

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 5 2022 5:28 PM

David J. Ring, Jr.:
It could be that the Archdiocese in 2012 assigned them complete rights, and the catholicbible.online site acquired rights prior to that time.

Nope. Scroll down to the bottom of the home page of the CatholicBible.online site.

David J. Ring, Jr.:
Also note that Templegate Publishers is publishing Knox's New Testament.  https://www.templegate.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=143&osCsid=bv6u5g4jsqeaf1h6at69qjl863 

Published in 1997.

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David J. Ring, Jr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 5 2022 6:05 PM

You should have just posted what it said - it says this. 2016 © CatholicBible.online, Baronius Press So Baronius Press published it. But that still doesn't close the knot, the copyright holder is the Archdiocese.

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