Upgrading from Core 2 Duo to Core 2 Quad...noticeable performance improvement?

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 18 2010 5:37 PM

Gary I am running Logos Platinum. After adding in additional journals, books and commentaries, that brings me to 2370 resources. Your specs are similar to mine, except I have a built in graphics (dedicated memory is 64MB) card in my laptop, and the bus speed is 800. If I were to load this layout, it took 15 seconds to load the software, and the ESV, having previously loaded it, and runs ok.

You should see a significant increase in speed performance.

Opened the layout displayed, restarted the software, 15 seconds, took another 8 seconds to load the layout. I am running the latest Beta.

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Garry Glaub | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 18 2010 5:44 PM

Thanks for the encouragement, Lynden, and taking the time to post.  I will know in a couple weeks when the laptop arrives...sure hope there is a noticeable difference.

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 18 2010 5:48 PM

How do I increase the amount of Ram dedicated to the graphics card? I have a total of 4GB. Running Windows 7 64 Bit.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 18 2010 6:09 PM

GarryGlaub:
It was a huge financial step to buy a new laptop, and from what you said, it won't be good enough to make much of a difference.  Man, do you have to be wealthy to use this software?

I meant that it won't make much difference to me, but it will be a definite improvement for you!

The notebook CPU market is moving fast, especially with 2x cheap Core i3 coming to market this year ("dual-core chips clocking at 2.93GHz, the Core i3 will be faster due to the efficiencies of its 32nm Westmere-class design (compared to the Core 2 Duo’s 45nm scale) and also boast superior graphics").

I'm sure you got a good bargain and with Win 7 and 4 GB fast memory you should be well satisfied.

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Ron | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 18 2010 6:50 PM

Dave Hooton:

I don't think Passage Guide is worth $300! With the standard PG on my laptop (see below) I get c. 30 second times. My customised Passage Guide takes about 15 seconds because I don't need the graphical sections that take the extra time. If I want to see one of those sections then I use the Add button.

If I did upgrade, Logos wouldn't be the only reason (although it would be the primary one.) I have other programs that would benefit as well. With that said though, I hadn't thought of customizing the Passage Guide to remove sections I don't need.  I'll give that a try and see if it makes a big difference.

Thanks!

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Bryan Brodess | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 18 2010 7:06 PM

My home computer is intel core 2 quad 2.4 Ghz with 6 Gb ram, Windows 7 64 bit  Geoforce 8800GTS 512.

I have a new laptop which is intel core 2 Duo 2.1 Ghz windows 7 32 bit. 4 gb ram, and a Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD (unknown memory)

 

I can say logos 4 runs faster on the home computer than the laptop. But really have no problems using either..

 

you should have no problem with your new dell!! Enjoy!


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Ron | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 19 2010 7:11 AM

Hey Lynden, it would be in setup when you first turn on the computer (probably hit F2 to enter setup at power on).  There should be a section called "integrated devices" or "onboard devices" or something similar that should have a setting for changing the amount of video memory.

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Ron | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 19 2010 7:11 AM

Lynden Williams:

How do I increase the amount of Ram dedicated to the graphics card? I have a total of 4GB. Running Windows 7 64 Bit.

Oops, I forgot to quote you in my previous reply...sorry about that.

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BillS | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 19 2010 3:35 PM

Bryan Brodess:
I can say logos 4 runs faster on the home computer than
..... than I do, no matter how slow my Core 2 Duo. Big Smile

Blessings! 

Grace & Peace,
Bill


MSI GF63 8RD, I-7 8850H, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, 2TB HDD, NVIDIA GTX 1050Max
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Bryan Brodess | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 19 2010 3:43 PM

BillS:

Bryan Brodess:
I can say logos 4 runs faster on the home computer than
..... than I do, no matter how slow my Core 2 Duo. Big Smile

Blessings! 

 

Big Smile  Blessings yourself my brother!

 

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Garry Glaub | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 21 2010 12:54 PM

After a few days of dealing with Dell (UGH, as it truly tested my Christian patience, thanks Lord!), I was able to cancel my order, thanks to the interaction of the Better Business Bureau.  Dell has an i7 laptop, but after the plethora of lies their customer service department barraged me with, I am hesitant to order from them.

I have found an Acer laptop on line, and a Christian brother who purchased one loves it.  Here are the specs, and as Acer doesn't build to spec, I can't change things here.  Before I order it, what do you guys think?

Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
CPU Type Intel Core i7 720QM(1.6GHz)
Screen 18.4"
Memory Size 4GB DDR3
Hard Disk 500GB
Optical Drive BD Combo
Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250M
Video Memory 1GB DDR3
Communication Gigabit LAN and WLAN
Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
CPU Type Intel Core i7 720QM(1.6GHz)
Screen 18.4"
Memory Size 4GB DDR3
Hard Disk 500GB
Optical Drive BD Combo
Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250M
Video Memory 1GB DDR3
Communication Gigabit LAN and WLAN
Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
CPU Type Intel Core i7 720QM(1.6GHz)
Screen 18.4"
Memory Size 4GB DDR3
Hard Disk 500GB
Optical Drive BD Combo
Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250M
Video Memory 1GB DDR3
Communication Gigabit LAN and WLAN
Intel Core i7 720 QM (1.6 GHz), Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium, Memory 4GB DDR3, 500 GB Hard disk, NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250M Dedicated Graphics Card, Video Memory 1GB DDR3, Intel PM55 Chipset.  Price is pretty good, lower than the much slower Dell.

Thanks in advance for your experience!  Blessings,

Garry

I sat at a David Hocking teaching of Ephesians last night with me old laptop, and added notes into LOGOS 3, because my computer is slower than pond water when operating LOGOS 4.  Looking forward to getting up to speed and learning the new bells and whistles.

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Paul Strickert | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 21 2010 1:10 PM

Looks terrific!  How much will it cost you?  Is the RAM upgradable? 

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Garry Glaub | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 21 2010 1:23 PM

$1350...Can't change the system before it is shipped, but can upgrade RAM on my own.  Will I need it?

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 21 2010 2:25 PM

Garry Glaub:
Intel Core i7 720 QM (1.6 GHz), Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium, Memory 4GB DDR3, 500 GB Hard disk, NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250M Dedicated Graphics Card, Video Memory 1GB DDR3, Intel PM55 Chipset.  Price is pretty good, lower than the much slower Dell.

You are right up there with the latest/best Intel mobile chipset now! It runs 2.8 GHz on a single core out of its 4. Just check you can slip more than 4 GB in there!

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Garry Glaub | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 21 2010 2:29 PM

Thanks, Dave...I am blessed that there are people like you to answer my questions, as this is certainly not my area of expertise.  May God bless you!

Garry

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Kolen Cheung | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 26 2010 11:15 PM

 

Garry Glaub:
$1350

I don't suggest you to buy such an expansive computer. I would recommend that you buy at most 750.

One suggestion is this:

Model
Brand TOSHIBA
Series Satellite
Model U505-S2005PK
Part# PSU9BU-014004
General
Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
CPU Type Intel Core i3-330M(2.13GHz)
Screen 13.3" WXGA
Memory Size 4GB DDR3
Hard Disk 500GB
Optical Drive DVD Super Multi
Graphics Card Intel GMA HD
Video Memory Shared memory
Communication LAN and WLAN
Card slot 1 x Express Card
Battery Life 3.60 hours
Dimensions 12.50" x 9.08" x 1.16" - 1.50"
Weight 4.74 lbs.
CPU
CPU Type Intel Core i3
CPU Speed 330M(2.13GHz)
Chipset
Chipset Intel HM55
Display
Screen Size 13.3"
Wide Screen Support Yes
Display Type Wide XGA
Resolution 1280 x 800
Operating Systems
Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Graphics
GPU/VPU Intel HD
Video Memory Shared system memory
Graphic Type Integrated Card
Hard Drive
HDD 500GB
HDD RPM 5400rpm
HDD Interface SATA
HDD Spec TOSHIBA Hard Drive Impact Sensor (3D sensor)
Memory
Memory 4GB
Memory Speed DDR3 1066
Memory Spec 2GB x 2
Memory Type 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM
Memory Slot (Total) 2
Memory Slot (Available) 0
Max Memory Supported 8GB
Optical Drive
Optical Drive Type DVD Super Multi
Optical Drive Interface Integrated
Optical Drive Spec DVD SuperMulti drive with Labelflash supporting 11 formats
Maximum speed and compatibility: CD-ROM (24x), CD-R (24x), CD-RW (16x), DVD-ROM (8x), DVD-R (Single Layer, (8x)), DVD-R (Double Layer, (4x)), DVD-RW (6x), DVD+R (Single Layer, (8x)), DVD+R (Double Layer, (4x)), DVD+RW (8x), DVD-RAM (5x)
Uses Labelflash media to burn high quality labels directly to disc
Communications
LAN 10/100Mbps
WLAN 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN
Ports
Card Slot 1 x ExpressCard slot (ExpressCard/34 and ExpressCard/54)
USB 3 x USB ( 2 USB + 1 eSATA/USB combo)
Video Port RGB (monitor) output port
HDMI-CEC (REGZA LINK)
Audio Ports Yes
Audio
Audio Dolby Sound Room
Speaker Built-in stereo speakers
Input Device
Touchpad Toshiba TouchPad
Keyboard Premium US LED keyboard (gray)
Supplemental Drive
Card Reader Memory Card Reader
Secure Digital, Secure Digital High Capacity, Memory Stick, Memory Stick PRO, Multi Media Card, xD Picture Card [shared slot]
Webcam Yes
Power
AC Adapter 65W (19V x 3.42A) Auto-sensing,100-240V/50-60Hz AC Adapter
Battery 6 cell (4800 mAh) Lithium Ion battery pack
Battery Life 3.60 hours
Physical spec
Dimensions 12.50" x 9.08" x 1.16" - 1.50"
Weight

4.74 lbs.

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Kolen Cheung | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 26 2010 11:19 PM

But of course you can buy a more expensive model. What I mean is expensive model depreciate very fast. So one would rather replace it frequently (~3years)

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Kolen Cheung | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 27 2010 12:33 AM

 

The model I want to buy is actually this:

Model
Brand ASUS
Model A52JR-X1
General
Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
CPU Type Intel Core i5 430M(2.26GHz)
Screen 15.6"
Memory Size 4GB DDR3
Hard Disk 500GB
Optical Drive DVD Super Multi
Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470
Video Memory 1GB DDR3 VRAM
Communication Gigabit LAN and WLAN
Dimensions 15.20" x 10.20" x 1.40"
Weight 5.80 lbs.
CPU
CPU Type Intel Core i5
CPU Speed 430M(2.26GHz)
Chipset
Chipset Intel HM55
Display
Screen Size 15.6"
Wide Screen Support Yes
Resolution 1366 x 768
LCD Features LED backlight
Operating Systems
Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Graphics
GPU/VPU ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470
Video Memory 1GB DDR3 VRAM
Graphic Type Dedicated Card
Hard Drive
HDD 500GB
HDD RPM 5400rpm
Memory
Memory 4GB
Memory Type 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM
Memory Slot (Total) 2
Optical Drive
Optical Drive Type DVD Super Multi
Optical Drive Interface Integrated
Communications
LAN 10/100/1000Mbps
WLAN 802.11bgn Wireless LAN
Ports
USB 3
Video Port 1 x VGA, 1 x HDMI
Audio Ports Yes
Audio
Audio Integrated Sound card
Speaker Internal Speakers
Input Device
Touchpad Yes
Keyboard Standard
Supplemental Drive
Card Reader 4-in-1 Card Reader, SD, MMC, MS, MS PRO
Webcam 0.3MP
Power
Battery 6-cell lithium ion
Physical spec
Dimensions 15.20" x 10.20" x 1.40"
Weight 5.80 lbs.
Manufacturer Warranty
Parts 2 years limited
Labor 2 years limited
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Kolen Cheung | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 27 2010 12:34 AM

So interesting to see the Logos has actually made us to consider to buy a new computer. I never think that I need a fast computer, before I purchase Logos4.

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Daniel Arnott | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 27 2010 12:15 PM

Kolen. The drive speed is slow. I noticed a big jump if you can get a machine with a 7200 rpm drive

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