Which do you prefer and why?
Although both have their value if I only had the choice between those two resources I would choose Vines. Robertson's Word Pictures is set up by canonical order which is good if you are going through a particular book but Vine's is more of a dictionary to look up specific words.
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Bruce Dunning:Robertson's Word Pictures is set up by canonical order which is good if you are going through a particular book but Vine's is more of a dictionary to look up specific words.
If you don't have commentaries that deal with the Greek text, then using Robertson linked to your English Bible will help fill the gap in your commentaries by giving some information on the original language level as you study a passage. As Bruce pointed out, it is not a lexicon or dictionary, but for the use stated would be helpful.
If you need a Greek dictionary, of the two, go with Vine's.
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Ok, I assume that "parallel" resources to Vines would be Vincent and Wuest- right?
What would be a "parallel" resource to Robertson?
Michael S.:Ok, I assume that "parallel" resources to Vines would be Vincent and Wuest- right?
Here is a screen shot of the four you mentioned.
Robertson, Vincent, and Wuest are all verse-by-verse commentaries on the words in the text. Vines is a dictionary that has an entry for each word.
Ah, I see now. So then, what are the "parallel" resources to Vines?
https://www.logos.com/product/5407/mounces-complete-expository-dictionary-of-old-and-new-testament-words
Michael S.: Ah, I see now. So then, what are the "parallel" resources to Vines?
Others would seem to be:
https://www.logos.com/product/45638/lexham-theological-wordbook
https://www.logos.com/product/7296/holman-treasury-of-key-bible-words
https://www.logos.com/product/1197/king-james-bible-word-book
These, like Vines, focus on the English text. There are also others which focus on the Hebrew or Greek text.
Now, whether the ones I listed are set up to be parallel resources or not, I do not know.
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I have no automatic parallels in Platinum
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Michael, Do you have any knowledge of Greek or Hebrew? What are you hoping the resource will provide? If we knew the answers to these questions, we could probably give better advice.
I'll pose an uneducated observation. On Vines, I didn't have any parallels listed (empty menu). But I touched the arrow key and then back. Then I had a million choices (mainly english dictionaries/lexicons). But also including canaanite inscriptions. I don't ever use the parallels.
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I would not hesitate to choose Robertson over Vines. Robertson is the superior scholar.
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I have no Greek or Hebrew skills or training.
I have Reformed Platinum in v5, and Baptist Starter in v6.
I am trying to learn how to use my resources to properly study and also trying to see if I have any weak areas of my resources that I need to plan to supplement.
Thank you all
Of the works you mentioned, I would go with Robertson. First, he was an impeccable scholar. You mentioned you have Baptist Starter. Robertson was a Southern Baptist. Second, because his work is verse-by-verse the words are discussed in context. People with no understanding of Greek or Hebrew often get a dictionary but do not have the skill to really understand it. With Robertson, when you look up a verse he will be discussing the shades of meaning that apply in that context.
My second choice would be Vincent. I have found him very helpful over the years. His work is formatted like Robertson.
I hope this helps. Blessings on your studies.
Where would Thayer fit into the mix?
Michael S.: Where would Thayer fit into the mix?
Thayer doesn't fit at all. He wrote before the discovery that the NT was not written in "Holy Ghost Greek" but in the popular Koine Greek of the time which has different meanings in some cases from classical Greek. Sell your first-born child and buy BDAG https://www.logos.com/product/3878/a-greek-english-lexicon-of-the-new-testament-and-other-early-christian-literature-3rd-ed. If you intend to get involved with Hebrew as well, you can get the BDAG/HALOT bundle and save a bit https://www.logos.com/product/5228/bdag-halot-bundle. For NT work, BDAG is the ONLY lexicon that is worth getting as your main source (It is also helpful with the Apostolic Fathers and frequently helpful with the LXX).
George Somsel:For NT work, BDAG is the ONLY lexicon that is worth getting as your main source
For example:
"One of the most enduring of errors, the root fallacy presupposes that every word actually has a meaning bound up with its shape or its components. In this view, meaning is determined by etymology; that is, by the root or roots of a word."
Carson, D. A. (1996). Exegetical fallacies (2nd ed., p. 28). Carlisle, U.K.; Grand Rapids, MI: Paternoster; Baker Books.