It's 2015 - Still No Option to Hold Resources on a Separate Drive for Mac?

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David Christensen | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Jan 24 2015 7:45 PM

Hello Friends:

I finally updated to V6 and so far am pleased with the new looks and added features.

However, downloading/indexing resources has put my paltry MacBook Air 10.10.1 to the limit with nearly 6GB of data remaining at only 20% indexing complete. There is no way I can keep the resources on my MBA hence I am looking for a solution to hold my resources on my lovely 2TB HD. I've poured through the forums searching for viable solutions to no avail.

1) Why does Logos insist on not allowing Mac users to install application/resources to an external or secondary drive ... when I believe that is no problem for Windows? Is it just not possible? Nothing is impossible...

2) Why are all the solutions such heavy workarounds that you have to tinker with the Terminal, do some heavy lifting etc ... at your own risk to "maybe" get it to work?

3) This is 2015. When you're shelling out several thousands of dollars, or even one dollar, the product should just work allowing for user customization and be as seamless as possible, not giving users buyers' remorse. Keep it simple...

Are there any other workarounds to this issue? I start class on Monday and want to have this settled once and for all so I can use Logos happily.

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Mr. Simple | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 24 2015 8:33 PM

I've asked the same question three times over the course of a couple of years. I have never received any response other than users answering in the way you described.

Never a response from a technical representative. Don't know why that is, it is just what it is I guess.

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David Christensen | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 24 2015 9:04 PM

This is borderline absurd if you ask me.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 24 2015 9:30 PM

David Christensen G.:
1) Why does Logos insist on not allowing Mac users to install application/resources to an external or secondary drive

Personally drag Application from disk image to my user's Documents or external disk partition.  Also use symbolic links to relocate application folders to a fast partition on external hard drive.

David Christensen G.:
2) Why are all the solutions such heavy workarounds that you have to tinker with the Terminal, do some heavy lifting etc ... at your own risk to "maybe" get it to work?

Using external storage has risks: needs to be connected to Mac and volume needs name to remain the same

For terminal command, wiki has example => https://wiki.logos.com/Install_in_different_folder_or_drive#OS_X

Forum thread Install on SSD has informative discussion about creating and using symbolic links.

David Christensen G.:
3) This is 2015. When you're shelling out several thousands of dollars, or even one dollar, the product should just work allowing for user customization and be as seamless as possible, not giving users buyers' remorse. Keep it simple...

Faithlife Corporation choice for simple on OS X is one user folder per application. OS X symbolic links can be used to relocate user's Logos, Verbum, and Noet folder where desired.  Drag and drop installation on OS X is different than Windows setup, which has custom option to specify location for application use. 

David Christensen G.:
Are there any other workarounds to this issue?

Another work around is selling MacBook Air so can buy another Mac with more storage (and possibly retina display).

Apple offers refurbished Mac models => http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac 

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David Christensen | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 24 2015 10:19 PM

Thx for the first link. I had the second one but looking at both concurrently helped me - I think - resolve the issue. How do you know for certain Logos is pulling the resources from the new symlink? I think it's working...*fingers crossed*

I'm waiting for Apple to release the 12" MBA hopefully coming this spring. I have an iMac at home for heavy use but need this MBA for class.

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Mr. Simple | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 25 2015 11:44 AM

There should be a preferences option that specifies where you want things to be.

Just like in photoshop to name one example.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 25 2015 7:44 PM

David Christensen G.:
How do you know for certain Logos is pulling the resources from the new symlink?

Many folders and files show date modified when Logos opens so can look within Data/<random> folder for date modifications in symlinked location.

Mr. Simple:
There should be a preferences option that specifies where you want things to be.

One idea is creating UserVoice Suggestion => http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-6 that provides feedback to Faithlife Corporation about user interest in suggestion.  Every user has 10 votes; up to 3 can be placed on one suggestion.  Currently, 14 votes are needed to elevate a suggestion into the top 100.  Apologies: since symbolic links work for me, my 10 UserVoice votes are placed on other suggestions: e.g. => http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-6/suggestions/6120060-add-themes-to-personalize-colors-colours-and-impro and => http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-6/suggestions/6936705-customize-prioritize-right-click-pop-up-menus

Noticed suggestion for selecting resources => http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-6/suggestions/5751660-option-to-install-select-resources-to-save-disk-sp

Article about relocating iPhoto library => http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/01/25/how-to-safely-move-your-macs-iphoto-library-onto-an-external-drive shows iPhoto was designed for switching libraries. In contrast, Faithlife Corporation designed OS X applications with one user library per application.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 25 2015 8:23 PM

Mr. Simple:
... Never a response from a technical representative.

Thread => Logos 6 and Windows tablet experience and need for improvements includes a reply from Faithlife:

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):

Don Potts:
If the Logos developers, knowing how the indexer manages resources, think using a 128GB SD card instead would ensure success

We do not recommend installing the program (or indexing) on external drives or SD cards.

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