hi everybody
I am starting to wonder if I should go back to version L3
I upgraded to the platinum version L4
I've just done a simple test on the main page I typed in John 1-5 then I clicked go
it took 5 minutes and :26 seconds to display all the information
and the hard drives are running hot
is this normal for the amount of time it takes for this process?
Laptop specifications
dedicated graphics card mobility radron x13000
memory 4 gig DDR2
hard drive 120 gig
cpu intel Duo 1.66GHz
Keep in mind that the opening a study from the L4 homepage does more things than starting from the Libronix homepage. The passage guide does more, more bibles are opened, a commentary is opened automatically and the text comparison tool launches. 5 Chapters is a lot of information to crunch in all these areas. I was able to run this in a minute and a half. I do have a faster processor than you and probably a faster hard drive (7200 RPM) but no dedicated graphics card so I guess this time is probably normal.
I would advise that running a passage guide is best for verses instead of chapters.
Prov. 15:23
How to ask for Help
One question then a statement.
1. Did you really type in John 1-5 (As in every thing from Chapters one to five?As in "all" of the materials for the first 5 chapters of John?
OR did you mean John 1:5? There certainly should be a difference in speed with the latter version.
2. Your specs are what Logos 4 is calling "minimum." Mine are similar and I too "lag" etc.
Regards, SteveF
Hi
yes John 1-5
I Put in John 1:5 this was 35 sec
i was just thinking of the speck of my computer , if my machine is classed as the minimum spec
would I be better going back to L3
mick
Some things I just don't do in Logos 4:
#1: run anything from the Home Page. Way too slow. If I did, it wouldn't be the multi-chapter one you tried.
I suggest you set up a layout that you like and run everything from that. Open to your saved layout rather than to your Home Page so you aren't tempted.
So other than what you times, how does Logos 4 respond? Searching, scrolling with linked resources, opening resources from the right-click menu, etc?
Your CPU specs seem underpowered for Logos 4.
BTW: I would not run anything that I could to walk away from the computer and finish painting the side of my house before it finished running. For me 5:30 is about that long computer-wise.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
Five chapters is a lot of information to break down and analyze with how much Logos 4 does from the Homepage. I'd think you'd have to have a quad core and 4-6gb of RAM to really do that in any decent amount of time. I'd also be quite surprised if Libronix could do the same amount of grunt work in any less time.
thank you for your replies ,
do you think my laptop is under the specification for L4
one of my main concerns is my laptop , is my laptop specifications going to able to run L4 in 18 months time
when all the new additions are added
thinking ahead should I spend my budget on a new laptop, or continue purchasing resources
Michael Parry -Thomas: should I spend my budget on a new laptop, or continue purchasing resources
Tough call. Logos designed L4 to run on a computer no more than 2 years old, and that was stated back in September. I don't know how old your computer is, but a Centrino CPU has got to be at least two years old, isn't it? Maybe the computer is younger but that's an older CPU.
18 months from now? Don't know if newer versions of Logos will be more taxing as we go forward, but certainly not less.
You'll probably need to spend $1,000 to get a good laptop to really run Logos 4. (Yes, I know you can do with less, but less is not more in this case.) Someone speced an HP laptop with a 17 inch screen running an i7 CPU for about $1000-$1,200 here on the forum a few weeks ago. Seemed to have all one would want for Logos 4 and he was very pelased. That is the kind of machine to move forward on.
So, if not this year, then next year if you really want to run L4 you will probably upgrade. If your computer is 2 years old or more it probably isn't worth trying to add components to make it run a bit faster.
Michael Parry -Thomas:thinking ahead should I spend my budget on a new laptop, or continue purchasing resources
How long does Logos take to start up? Does your workflow stutter or move slowly? Some people have used less than recommended specs to their satisfaction, others have not. If Logos moves slowly I would go for the new laptop, if the program moves adequately then I would go for more books.
Michael Parry -Thomas: do you think my laptop is under the specification for L4
Hi Mick,
I think you've received some excellent advice, particularly regarding the way you're trying to use (& evaluate) L4.
It's such a radical departure from L3 that with your config & Platinum baseline I'd hold off making any decision on hardware & instead would explore ways to use L4 more effectively. As you discover how you're really going to use L4, you'll also discover which you need FIRST: faster hardware or more resources.
Many of us are hoping to see at least SOME optimization of L4's base code over the next 18 months. As it is now, not even those with the fastest PCs seem to be ALWAYS 100% happy with L4's speed.
Many blessings, either way!
Grace & Peace,BillMSI GF63 8RD, I-7 8850H, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, 2TB HDD, NVIDIA GTX 1050MaxiPhone 12 Pro Max 512GbFire 10HD 64GB 7th Gen
I would say get a new laptop, if you can. All the resources in the world will not do you any good if you can't use them. The frustration of trying to use a program with an under powered machine will just ware on you over time.
Or, stay with L3. The L3 is an awesome program in its own right. I plan on keeping it installed for a long time. Even if I don't use it. I have just been blessed by its use for too long to not keep it installed. That's just my 2 cents.
Also, I just purchased a refurbished Dell Studio 15 for 824.00, delivered. Dual quad 2 core processor, dedicated ATI graphics card 512 mb, 4 gigs ram, 500 gig hard drive 7200 rpm. Very happy with its performance. Even with some lag. I am hopeful that the lag will go away as the drivers are updated and refined for the windows 7 64 bit.
May the Lord bless you and keep you.