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Robert Peters | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Jan 31 2015 3:49 PM

Why no dynamic pricing on Biblical Languages base package? 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 31 2015 3:55 PM

I believe it is because it is considered an academic package and hence has its own discount structure.

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Into Grace | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 31 2015 5:12 PM

I believe Logos is a monopoly and calls the shots. The demand is there. I expect Logos earns more by not offering this package to the general public.  



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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 31 2015 5:21 PM

Into Grace:

I believe Logos is a monopoly and calls the shots. The demand is there. I expect Logos earns more by not offering this package to the general public.  
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Tell that to the seminaries that use BibleWorks or Accordance. I would be more inclined to suspect the contracts with publishers which often specify the permitted discounts and whether Faithlife bears or shares the discount. Zondervan's non-participation in dynamic pricing is basically the requirement that Logos pay them the full cost of each license even if it is a duplicate.

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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David Roberts | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 31 2015 5:41 PM

I purchased the Original Languages Library base package in 2012 for $413.56 USD.

It was absolutely the right choice for me. It's been the single best investment I've ever made on Biblical education.

It's a shame that it had to go up $637.46 USD. It's probably much better value, but much more painful for those on tight budgets.

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David Roberts | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 31 2015 5:46 PM
Here's the difference between my library and Logos' new Biblical languages base package.
I did buy a number of books since that time though.
Ancient Literature Dataset $13.71 NZD
Andersen-Forbes Aramaic Grammatical Relationships Dataset Owned
Andersen-Forbes Hebrew Grammatical Relationships Owned
Anderson-Forbes Phrase Marker Analysis Dataset Owned
Bible Books Dataset $0.00 NZD
Biblical Events Dataset $27.50 NZD
Biblical People Dataset Owned
Biblical Phrases Dataset $6.82 NZD
Biblical Places Dataset Owned
Biblical Referents Dataset $27.50 NZD
Biblical Things Dataset Owned
Biblical Word Senses Dataset $27.50 NZD
Community Tags Dataset $27.50 NZD
English Audio Pronunciations Dataset $13.71 NZD
Greek Audio Pronunciations Dataset (Erasmian) $27.50 NZD
Greek Audio Pronunciations Dataset (Koine) $0.00 NZD
Greek Audio Pronunciations Dataset (Modern) $0.00 NZD
Lemma Lists Datasets Owned
Lexham Clauses Dataset: LHB Edition $0.00 NZD
Lexham Clauses Dataset: SBLGNT Edition $0.00 NZD
Lexham Cultural Ontology Dataset $27.50 NZD
Lexham Cultural Ontology Supplemental Dataset $6.89 NZD
Lexicon Reformatting Dataset $6.89 NZD
Literary Type Dataset $20.61 NZD
Logos Controlled Vocabulary Dataset Owned
Notable People Dataset $27.50 NZD
Online Manuscripts Dataset $7.17 NZD
Pericopes Dataset Owned
Preaching Themes Dataset $8.20 NZD
Propositional Bible Outlines Dataset $27.50 NZD
Reported Speech Dataset $27.50 NZD
Resource Excerpts Dataset Owned
Semantic Roles and Case Frames Dataset: LHB Edition $18.19 NZD
Semantic Roles and Case Frames Dataset: SBLGNT Edition $0.00 NZD
Thematic Outlines Dataset $8.20 NZD
Timeline Dataset $27.50 NZD
Interactive Media
Ancient Inscriptions $4.07 NZD
Before and After: Ancient and Modern Biblical Archaeology Sites $27.50 NZD
Bible Outline Browser $8.20 NZD
Bible People Visual Timelines $4.07 NZD
Biblical Event Navigator $4.07 NZD
Canon Comparison $4.07 NZD
Counting the Ten Commandments $4.07 NZD
Days of Creation $6.82 NZD
everse Interlinear Explorer $6.82 NZD
Greek Alphabet Tutor $6.82 NZD
Hebrew Alphabet Tutor $6.82 NZD
Hebrew Cantillations $6.82 NZD
Interactive Infographics from the Faithlife Study Bible $4.07 NZD
Interlinear Explorer $6.82 NZD
Israelite Feasts and Sacrifices $4.07 NZD
Morphology Charts $6.82 NZD
Narrative Character Maps $8.20 NZD
Numeric Converter $4.07 NZD
Parallel Gospel Reader $8.20 NZD
Proverbs Explorer $8.20 NZD
Psalms Explorer $8.20 NZD
Text Converter $4.07 NZD
Weights & Measures Converter $4.07 NZD
Who Killed Goliath? $6.82 NZD
Media Collections
Artifacts from the British Museum $13.71 NZD
Beitzel Photo Library $41.28 NZD
Bible Illustrations $20.61 NZD
Church History Timeline $2.29 NZD
deSilva Teaching Materials, Volume 1 $41.28 NZD
English Bible Versions Timeline $27.50 NZD
Faithlife Study Bible Media $27.50 NZD
Intertestamental Period Timeline $2.29 NZD
Israel’s Judges Timeline $2.29 NZD
Israel’s Kings Timeline $2.29 NZD
Lexham Bible Background Slides $27.50 NZD
Logos Media Archive $34.39 NZD
Logos Stock Media $27.50 NZD
New Testament Books Timeline $2.29 NZD
Old Testament Books Timeline $2.29 NZD
Old Testament Prophets Timeline $2.29 NZD
Online Media $27.50 NZD
Preaching Themes Slide Art $27.50 NZD
Proclaim Media $27.50 NZD
English Bibles
American Standard Version $24.74 NZD
Douay-Rheims Bible Owned
ESV Owned
HCSB $13.78 NZD
King James Version Owned
King James Version Apocrypha Owned
LEB Owned
NASB 95 Owned
NIrV $13.77 NZD
NIV 2011 $13.77 NZD
NLT $55.07 NZD
NRSV Owned
RSV Owned
Tanakh (new) $13.78 NZD
Tanakh 1917 $13.78 NZD
Interlinears
English–Greek Reverse Interlinear of the NRSV Apocryphal Texts $61.96 NZD
ESV English–Greek Reverse Interlinear of the New Testament Owned
ESV English–Hebrew Reverse Interlinear of the Old Testament Owned
KJV Cambridge Paragraph English–Greek Reverse Interlinear Owned
KJV Cambridge Paragraph English–Hebrew Reverse Interlinear Owned
KJV English–Greek Reverse Interlinear $27.50 NZD
KJV English–Hebrew Reverse Interlinear $27.50 NZD
LEB English–Hebrew Reverse Interlinear Owned
Lexham Hebrew–English Interlinear Bible Owned
NASB95 English–Greek Reverse Interlinear Owned
NASB95 English–Hebrew Reverse Interlinear Owned
NIV 2011 English–Greek Reverse Interlinear $27.50 NZD
NIV 2011 English–Hebrew Reverse Interlinear $27.50 NZD
NKJV English–Greek Reverse Interlinear
NKJV English–Hebrew Reverse Interlinear $27.50 NZD
NRSV English–Greek Reverse Interlinear Owned
NRSV English–Hebrew Reverse Interlinear Owned
Reverse Interlinear of RSV New Testament $96.42 NZD
The English–Greek Reverse Interlinear New Testament English Standard Version Owned
The English–Greek Reverse Interlinear New Testament New Revised Standard Version Owned
The English–Hebrew Reverse Interlinear Old Testament English Standard Version Owned
Greek Bibles, Apparatuses, Morphologies
A Greek-English Lexicon of the Septuagint Owned
An Introduction to the Study of New Testament Greek, vols. 1 & 2 $68.85 NZD
Apparatus for the Greek New Testament: SBL Edition Owned
Brenton LXX (English) $46.80 NZD
Brenton LXX (Greek) $27.50 NZD
Lexham Analytical Lexicon of the Septuagint: H.B. Swete Edition $6.86 NZD
Lexham English Septuagint $34.39 NZD
Novum Testamentum Graece: Apparatus Criticus (3 vols.) Owned
Rahlfs' Septuagint with Logos Morphology Owned
Septuagint Variants with Logos Morphology Owned
The Greek New Testament: SBL Edition (SBL) Owned
The Greek–Hebrew Reverse Interlinear Septuagint Owned
The Lexham Clausal Outlines of the Greek New Testament: SBL Edition Owned
The Lexham English Septuagint: Alternate Texts $6.85 NZD
The Lexham Greek–English Interlinear Septuagint $186.01 NZD
The Lexham Greek–English Interlinear Septuagint, Alternate Texts $68.85 NZD
The Lexham Greek–English Interlinear Septuagint: H.B. Swete Edition (Alternate Texts) $68.85 NZD
The Lexham Syntactic Greek New Testament: Sentence Analysis Owned
The New Testament in Greek Owned
The New Testament in the Original Greek Owned
The Old Testament in Greek according to the Septuagint $27.50 NZD
The Old Testament in Greek according to the Septuagint (Alternate Texts) $41.28 NZD
The Old Testament in Greek according to the Septuagint (Apparatus for Alternate Texts) $0.00 NZD
The Old Testament in Greek according to the Septuagint (Apparatus) $41.28 NZD
The Parallel Aligned Hebrew-Aramaic and Greek Texts of Jewish Scripture Owned
The Parallel Aligned Hebrew-Aramaic and Greek Texts of Jewish Scripture - Alexandrinus and Theodotion Variants Owned
UBS 5 $55.07 NZD
Hebrew Bibles, Apparatuses, Morphologies
A Systematic Glossary to the Andersen-Forbes Analysis of the Hebrew Bible Owned
Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia: With Werkgroep Informatica, Vrije Universiteit Morphology Owned
Biblia Hebraica Transcripta $8.60 NZD
Lexham Hebrew Bible with Morphology $68.85 NZD
The Hebrew Bible: Andersen-Forbes Analyzed Text Owned
Harmonies and Parallel Passages
A Harmony of the Gospels (Robertson) Owned
A Harmony of the Synoptic Gospels for Historical and Critical Study Owned
Eusebian Canons (Eusebius) $39.90 NZD
Harmony of the Gospels $31.63 NZD
Jackson Gospel Synopsis (Jackson) Owned
Jackson Jude - 2 Peter (Jackson) Owned
Old Testament Allusions Owned
Old Testament Quotes in the New Testament (HCSB) Owned
Parallel Passages in the Pastoral Epistles (Brannan) Owned
Synopsis of the Old Testament Owned
Study Bibles
Faithlife Study Bible Owned
Bible Dictionaries and Encyclopedias
Collins Thesaurus of the Bible Owned
Lexham Bible Dictionary Owned
Theological Dictionary of the New Testament (TDNT) Owned
Theology Dictionaries and Encyclopedias
Lexham Glossary of Theology $10.96 NZD
Lexham Theological Wordbook $96.42 NZD
Greek Lexicons and Lexical Tools
A Dictionary of Biblical Languages w/ Semantic Domains: Greek (NT) Owned
Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament based on Semantic Domains (Louw–Nida) Owned
Liddell and Scott Greek–English Lexicon (LSJ) $186.08 NZD
Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament $49.55 NZD
Theological Lexicon of the New Testament (3 vols.) $123.98 NZD
Vocabulary of the Greek Testament $55.12 NZD
Hebrew Lexicons and Lexical Tools
A Concise Hebrew and Aramaic Lexicon of the Old Testament Owned
A Dictionary of Biblical Languages w/ Semantic Domains: Aramaic (OT) Owned
A Dictionary of Biblical Languages w/ Semantic Domains: Hebrew (OT) Owned
An Introduction to Aramaic, 2nd ed. Owned
Analytical Key to the Old Testament (4 vols.) $385.87 NZD
Enhanced Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew and English Lexicon (BDB) Owned
Gesenius' Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon to the Old Testament Owned
Theological Lexicon of the Old Testament (3 vols.) $137.77 NZD
Greek Grammars and Grammatical Tools
A Grammatical Analysis of the Greek New Testament $45.42 NZD
Biblical Greek, Illustrated by Examples $27.50 NZD
Diagrammatical Analysis Owned
Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light of Historical Research $89.52 NZD
Idioms of the Greek New Testament, 2nd ed. $48.17 NZD
Kairos: A Beginning Greek Grammar with Workbook and Answer Key (3 vols.) $55.07 NZD
Learning New Testament Greek Now and Then $24.74 NZD
Lexham Textual Notes on the Bible $34.39 NZD
Moulton-Howard-Turner Greek Grammar Collection (5 vols.) $137.77 NZD
Syntax of the Moods and Tenses in New Testament Greek Owned
Hebrew Grammars and Grammatical Tools
A Biblical Hebrew Reference Grammar $49.55 NZD
A Grammar of Biblical Hebrew, rev. ed. $103.31 NZD
An Introduction to Biblical Hebrew Syntax $50.93 NZD
Biblical Hebrew for Beginners $26.12 NZD
Building Your New Testament Greek Vocabulary Owned
Davidson's Introductory Hebrew Grammar $55.07 NZD
Gesenius' Hebrew Grammar Owned
Hebrew Bible Insert: A Student’s Guide to the Syntax of Biblical Hebrew $5.44 NZD
Hebrew Syntax (Third Edition) Owned
Learning Biblical Hebrew: A New Approach Using Discourse Analysis $43.00 NZD
Syntax of the Hebrew Language of the Old Testament $34.39 NZD
Ancient Non-Biblical Texts and Translations
Ancient Near Eastern Texts $110.20 NZD
Apostolic Fathers in Greek and English (Lake Edition) $53.69 NZD
Apostolic Fathers in Greek and English (Lightfoot Edition) Owned
Josephus in Greek: Niese Critical Edition with Apparatus $248.04 NZD
Lake’s Apostolic Fathers English Reverse Interlinear Owned
Old Testament Greek Pseudepigrapha with Morphology $137.77 NZD
The Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha of the Old Testament in English Owned
The Apocryphal New Testament: Being the Apocryphal Gospels, Acts, Epistles, and Apocalypses $33.01 NZD
The Apostolic Fathers Greek-English Interlinear $42.66 NZD
The Apostolic Fathers in English $27.50 NZD
The Dead Sea Scrolls Study Edition: vol. I: 1Q1–4Q273–vol. II: 4Q274–11Q31 $123.98 NZD
The Targums from the Files of the Comprehensive Aramaic Lexicon Project Owned
The Works of Josephus Owned
The Works of Philo $41.28 NZD
The Works of Philo: Greek Text with Morphology $117.09 NZD
Hermeneutics and Exegesis
A Student's Guide to Textual Criticism of the Bible $16.47 NZD
A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament Owned
A Textual Guide to the Greek New Testament $64.71 NZD
Figures of Speech Used on the Bible $41.28 NZD
Lexham Glossary of Literary Types $5.51 NZD
Lexham Glossary of Semantic Roles $6.89 NZD
Lexham Semantic Outlines Glossary $6.89 NZD
Atlases, Maps, and Media
BiblePlaces.com Image Library Owned
Biblical People Diagrams Owned
Biblical Places Maps Owned
Faithlife Study Bible Infographics Owned
Faithlife Study Bible Photos Owned
Faithlife Study Bible Video Resources Owned
Images from A Biblical and Theological Dictionary $2.69 NZD
Images from A Dictionary of the Bible Owned
Images from A Standard Bible Dictionary $2.69 NZD
Images from An Illustrated History of the Holy Bible Owned
Images from Helps to the Study of the Bible $2.69 NZD
Images from Illustrations of the Bible from the Monuments of Egypt $2.69 NZD
Images from The Bible Hand-Book Owned
Images from The Illustrated Bible Treasury Owned
Images from The People's Bible Encyclopedia Owned
Images from The Temple Bible Dictionary $2.69 NZD
Images of the Holy Lands $38.53 NZD
Logos 6 Maps Volume 1 $20.61 NZD
Logos 6 Maps Volume 2 $20.61 NZD
Logos 6 Maps Volume 3 $20.61 NZD
Logos Bible Images $2.69 NZD
Logos Bible Photos $2.69 NZD
Logos Bible Software Infographics Owned
Biblical Studies
DIY Bible Study $68.85 NZD
The Animals Mentioned in the Bible $20.61 NZD
The Plants of the Bible $20.61 NZD
Collected Works
Light from the Ancient East $41.28 NZD
Devotionals
Connect the Testaments: A Daily Devotional Owned
Worship and Music
Logos Digital Hymnal $19.23 NZD
General Reference
Glossary of Morpho-Syntactic Database Terminology Owned
Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary, Eleventh Edition $34.39 NZD
The New Topical Text Book: A Scripture Text Book for the Use of Ministers, Teachers, and All Christian Workers $27.50 NZD
The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge $24.74 NZD
Foreign-Language Bibles
Clementine Vulgate Owned
Lectionaries
Book of Common Prayer (1979) Daily Office Lectionary Owned
Book of Common Prayer (1979) Sunday Lectionary Owned
Catholic Lectionary Owned
Christian Worship One Year Lectionary Owned
Christian Worship Three Year Lectionary (with Supplemental Lectionary) Owned
Lutheran Service Book Historic (One Year) Lectionary Owned
Lutheran Service Book Three Year Lectionary Owned
Revised Common Lectionary Daily Readings Owned
United Methodist Revised Common Lectionary Owned
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Robert Peters | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 31 2015 6:09 PM

In the previous version they had dynamic pricing.

If I purchase each book individually it will cost me 232.80, but it will cost me 524.96 if I buy it as a base package

Total value if sold separately: $232.80  Your exclusive price: $524.96

 

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