Suggestion: Hebrew Bible Paragraph Format

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Feb 1 2015 11:07 PM

Follow-up to thread => Hebrew Formatting in Paragraphs? suggest adding Logos Hebrew Morphology tagging of paragraph markers like BHW (to LHI and LHB). Please remove line breaks between verses in Hebrew prose sections so formatting on screen is similar to "A Reader's Hebrew Bible"

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 1 2015 11:43 PM

Am I understanding you correctly? You want one book formatted as if it were another book? I doubt the contracts allow that!

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 2 2015 12:04 AM

Many Hebrew Bible resources have open and closed paragraph markers without morphological tagging.  With prose sections having a paragraph break for every verse number, those paragraph markers appear at the end of a verse.  If paragraph break for each verse number were removed from prose sections, then visual filter for one verse per line could be used when desired.

BHW => https://www.logos.com/product/36749/biblia-hebraica-westmonasteriensis-with-westminster-hebrew-morphology-418 has morphological tagging of paragraph markers so can create visual filter:

For open paragraph, Visual Filter text before is new line.  For closed paragraph, visual filter inserts spaces before.  Both filters change paragraph marker into outline.  Every BHW verse number has a digital paragraph break so closed paragraph looks a bit odd compared to print that has 0.5 inch of space on both sides of closed paragraph marker.  If paragraph breaks are removed from verse numbers in prose sections, could add spaces after closed paragraph marker.  Dreaming of similar visual filter using Logos Hebrew Morphology.  

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David Roberts | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 2 2015 12:40 AM

MJ. Smith:

Am I understanding you correctly? You want one book formatted as if it were another book? I doubt the contracts allow that!

My understanding was 'Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)' wanted two things:

  • the traditional closed and open spaces found within the Masoretic scrolls to be preserved digitally.
  • not to start each verse on a new line

Genesis 1 is a great example with breaks for every day of creation. Here's a scan from the Simanim Tanakh.

This is related to my post here:

https://community.logos.com/forums/p/98678/681421.aspx#681421

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David Roberts | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 2 2015 12:44 AM

I also want to voice my support for those two features.

  • visually displaying the traditional closed and open spaces found within the Masoretic scrolls.
  • not to starting each and every single verse on a new line (grrrh)

Constantly breaking up the text according to verse numbers disrupts my reading. I find it so much easier when it flows on. Paragraph spaces are incredibly helpful for navigating the text quickly though.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 2 2015 12:55 AM

My question had to do with the specific resource as I suspect that a change in format to match xxx would require purchasing xxx as a separate resource. Our building filters to "fake it" would have no such consequences.

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David Roberts | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 2 2015 4:11 AM

MJ. Smith:

Our building filters to "fake it" would have no such consequences.

Yes. And it could look like this. I apologise for not making it more realistic, but I don't know what the font name is of the default Logos English font.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 2 2015 5:01 AM

MJ. Smith:
My question had to do with the specific resource as I suspect that a change in format to match xxx would require purchasing xxx as a separate resource.

Specific resource was provided as a visual example showing Hebrew Bible paragraph with desire for Logos Hebrew Bible resource to have similar formatting (that may not match exactly).  The prose sections of "A Reader's Hebrew Bible" have paragraph formatting while poetry does not.  Every verse number in Psalms starts a new line.

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