Jonathan Pitts: The impression given in the video is that it is the equivalent of the full 32-volume encyclopaedia that is on sale. This now appears to be misleading. Are you going to withdraw or re-edit the video? I guess US advertising standards are different from those we expect in the UK.
The impression given in the video is that it is the equivalent of the full 32-volume encyclopaedia that is on sale. This now appears to be misleading. Are you going to withdraw or re-edit the video?
I guess US advertising standards are different from those we expect in the UK.
I agree. The Noet edition appears to be an abridged version of the Encyclopedia, sold as if it is the real thing. I will be cancelling my formerly enthusiastic pre-order. Based on Simon's calculation, we are looking at about 10k pages - not 33k. Very disappointing marketing dishonesty here.
It seems the difficulty is that there is no comparable Britannica product with which to compare the Noet version, correct? From the discussion we've had, I'm less enthusiastic about the offering than I had been.
Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC
Yesterday after thinking about the EBNE (Encyclopedia Britannica) one reason for purchasing it would be so that i might have access to it in the future.
Over the past 20 years i have bought at least 2 Encyclopedias for my PCs. Over the years these have stopped working with my newer PCs as Windows has evolved. The oldest was written for 16-bit OS and cannot be loaded. The other has similar issues with my current Windows 8 PC. Another down side was that they required me to insert various DVDs as i changed viewing different articles.
But with EBNE coming out in Logos compatible book form. This book form should alleviate this problem as Logos will in the future will continue to upgrade its app to work with newer OS and computer technology. So the EBNE book will work unlike the older purchased Encyclopedias.
Plus i will not need to change DVDs as i view articles in the EBNE.
Edit: another advantage to having the EBNE over other Encyclopedias (purchased for PCs) is that it will be available on my other devices (tablet, phones, etc).
p.s. Thanks Alabama for taking up my defense concerning EULA!
Edit: i see the EBNE's primary benefit as parents have in the past. It provides access for their school age children. Growing up my father purchased the World Book Encyclopedia for me and my siblings. i cannot tell you how many times me and my siblings used it in writing reports for our school homework. So last night when visiting my son's house and doing my normal Tuesday evening Bible study with my grandchildren, i spoke to my son about the EBNE and suggested that he create a new Logos account and purchase it for the grandkids. By creating a new Logos account, the kids would not be altering any of his Logos notes/layouts etc. He would be able to set it up on the single computer that the kids share and when it came up on that computer it would automatically open up (without them needing to login). i feel this would be a better source of info for the kids than wikipedia, or at least a more objective/reliable source.
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steve clark:Plus i will not need to change DVDs as i view articles in the EBNE.
Several years ago (well, more than 5 yrs) I got all of the issues of National Geographic. It also requires shuffling disks. What a pain!
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Justin Gatlin: Jonathan Pitts: The impression given in the video is that it is the equivalent of the full 32-volume encyclopaedia that is on sale. This now appears to be misleading. Are you going to withdraw or re-edit the video? I guess US advertising standards are different from those we expect in the UK. I agree. The Noet edition appears to be an abridged version of the Encyclopedia, sold as if it is the real thing. I will be cancelling my formerly enthusiastic pre-order. Based on Simon's calculation, we are looking at about 10k pages - not 33k. Very disappointing marketing dishonesty here.
I feel the same way about the video; it seems misleading. I'm also surprised about the price of this product after the three-day sale. Is $500 a reasonable price?
Hi all,
To avoid any further confusion, we've decided to update the video and remove the section where we mention the 32-volume print edition. In our minds, we were trying to give our users an example that would help illustrate EBNE's functionality, but we can see how this could be confusing, and obviously, don't want to mislead anyone! The video will be updated later today.
Also, it's important to note that these articles are not abridged--this edition offers 19,000 complete articles crafted by Encyclopedia Britannica editors.
Thanks for all the feedback!
Sherri
Sherri Huleatt: Hi all, To avoid any further confusion, we've decided to update the video and remove the section where we mention the 32-volume print edition. In our minds, we were trying to give our users an example that would help illustrate EBNE's functionality, but we can see how this could be confusing, and obviously, don't want to mislead anyone! The video will be updated later today. Also, it's important to note that these articles are not abridged--this edition offers 19,000 complete articles crafted by Encyclopedia Britannica editors. Thanks for all the feedback! Sherri
Thank you. Good move.
Any possibility of a few sample articles?
Thanks Sherri!
I think it safe to say that Logos doesn't intentionally attempt to mislead, but sometimes things can be misleading. Glad to see Logos being responsive to forum concerns.
Alan: Any possibility of a few sample articles? Thanks Sherri!
Hi Alan,
Since this is a new edition, we unfortunately don't have any sample articles from Britannica. I'm hoping that once we get closer to shipping, we can provide some sample pages for our users to peruse.
Sherri Huleatt:-The EBNE also includes more than 25,000 high-resolution videos and images that are all fully searchable and accessible--even when you’re not connected to the Internet.
While I am still not sure if I'll benefit from the print content of the EBNE, I am interested in a resource that would provide this vast a number of images and videos for under $100. That alone might make this a worth-while purchase.
Thank-you for the extra information and clarification of the contents.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
Mark Smith: While I am still not sure if I'll benefit from the print content of the EBNE, I am interested in a resource that would provide this vast a number of images and videos for under $100. That alone might make this a worth-while purchase. Thank-you for the extra information and clarification of the contents.
No problem. Thanks for your patience, Mark!
Quick question - I read that updates will be relatively cheap. Is That compared to the pre-pub price or the MSLP?
Blessings,Floyd
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Sherri,
Somewhat related, but with content from Encyclopedia Britannicacoming to Noet now, any chance of getting the 60 volume Great Books of the Westen World?
that would be hugely valuable to me!
Greg Masone: Sherri, Somewhat related, but with content from Encyclopedia Britannicacoming to Noet now, any chance of getting the 60 volume Great Books of the Westen World? that would be hugely valuable to me!
Have you considered the Harvard Classics? It's not the same though it does have some of the same material. Also, there are various classical authors in the Loeb editions and some collected works of authors such as Dostoyevsky and Jack London.
Hello George,
Yep, I've got all those already :-)
Ive got a print edition of the Great Books that I'm readone through and would love to have them all digitally.
Greg Masone: Hello George, Yep, I've got all those already :-) Ive got a print edition of the Great Books that I'm readone through and would love to have them all digitally.
You do realize that you can't display them in your bookcases, don't you?
Ok, since I started this long thread and stirred up the waters about this product I'll chime in with a few observations and conclusions (if one can make any at this point).
Here is the link to the press release:
https://www.logos.com/press/releases/Noet-releases-digitally-enhanced-edition-of-Encyclopedia-Britannica
Again thanks to Faithlife for branching out into new ventures and bringing us more opportunities to add to our libraries.
Thank you, Bruce, for starting this thread, for pulling together "the present state of the discussion", and for the link to the press release. It has been very helpful in making my decision to pre-order.
I also Bruce, am thankful for your follow through on this and for Sherri's help as well.