[ACK]Pasting text in Mac won't add reference.

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J. Remington Bowling | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Jun 11 2015 2:00 PM

So when using the Windows version of Logos 6 (and prior versions) you can select a chunk of text and paste it into a word processor or OneNote and it will automatically add in the reference material. 

This doesn't work on Mac. Is there something I need to do to enable this feature or is this feature simply missing for the Mac version? If it is missing, any word on if it will be added?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 11 2015 2:35 PM

How much text are you pasting?

It needs to be ten words or more for the citation information to appear

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J. Remington Bowling | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 11 2015 2:36 PM

More than ten words.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 11 2015 3:45 PM

Which app are you pasting into?

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J. Remington Bowling | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 11 2015 3:47 PM

OneNote is the primary app I'm using. However I have also tried Pages, Mail, and the Chrome web browser.

The only time pasting works proper (by automatically adding a reference) is when I paste into a Logos 6 note file.

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 11 2015 4:37 PM

Dumb question ...  Is "Copy Citations" set to Yes in Program Settings?

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J. Remington Bowling | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 11 2015 4:42 PM

Yes.

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 11 2015 4:48 PM

OK ... Yes, that was a dumb question ...

I am using Windows and OneNote but I can confirm that other the name of the resource no other reference materials are being copied over.  Copying in to MS Word gives all references.  OneNote only shows the resource info.

It appears initially that we have an issue here somewhere.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 11 2015 5:04 PM

J. Remington Bowling:
OneNote is the primary app I'm using. However I have also tried Pages, Mail, and the Chrome web browser.

I know that Pages and Mail do not support this feature. I do not have OneNote, but it DOES work in MSFT Office. It also works in Scrivener. I don't have OpenOffice installed currently, but it might work there as well. Here is a list of some free apps... maybe one will work.

http://www.investintech.com/articles/tenwordalternatives/ 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 11 2015 5:04 PM

I forgot to add... It also works in the OLD version of Pages... just not the new one. 

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J. Remington Bowling | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 11 2015 5:17 PM

I have also tried the following:

Wordpress

Google Docs

Notes

Evernote

Microsoft Word (online via OneDrive)

Now add to that OneNote, Pages, Mail, and any where in Chrome then it looks like the feature either doesn't work for Mac or else there is a bug.

I have an Office365 subscription and could install it on to my Mac if I wanted to, but I'd rather not go through the trouble when (1) I don't want or need Word on my Mac and (2) there is no guaranteeing that it will work.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 11 2015 5:26 PM

J. Remington Bowling:
I have an Office365 subscription and could install it on to my Mac if I wanted to, but I'd rather not go through the trouble when (1) I don't want or need Word on my Mac and (2) there is no guaranteeing that it will work.

With MS Word, the bibliographic data appears in a footnote every time I paste from Logos 6. It may be a bit short-sighted to refuse to put MS Word on your Mac for at least 2 reasons: 1) As you have already noted, Apple broke the footnote paste feature with the latest version of Pages, and they do not seem to be in any hurry to fix it. Logos is not the only application affected. 2) If you create a personal book in Logos, you need docx format for Logos to compile your resource.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 11 2015 5:28 PM

J. Remington Bowling:
there is no guaranteeing that it will work.

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J. Remington Bowling | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 11 2015 5:35 PM

Jack,

To clarify, you're working from a mac? But as I said, I don't need Word. I use OneNote and Evernote. At best, this would only mean that I would have to copy/paste into Word and then copy/paste from Word into OneNote and hope that it transfers the citation data. But if it only copies citation data into a footnote then I'm sure it would just be more trouble for me to then copy the footnote separately and past that into OneNote... there are faster solutions that don't involve installing other software that I don't need. For instance, I can copy the citation data from Logos directly and then paste it into OneNote. I can then quickly copy/paste this to other OneNote files when necessary. 

Of course the best thing would be for Logos to fix/add this feature if possible.

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J. Remington Bowling | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 11 2015 5:36 PM

Thanks. However as I mentioned above this just creates an extra-step for me to get the information to where I actually need it and I can take another route that would work just as well.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 11 2015 5:36 PM

J. Remington Bowling:
Of course the best thing would be for Logos to fix/add this feature if possible.

...but Faithlife doesn't make OneNote / Evernote / Pages. There is nothing to "fix" without those developers providing that capability.

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J. Remington Bowling | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 11 2015 5:42 PM

I wasn't sure if it is something Logos can accomplish or if it's something impossible on their end. So far we haven't heard from Logos, so I don't know. The feature works on my PC when I'm using the Chrome browser, Evernote, Wordpress, OneNote, Google Docs, etc.... 

So it would seem that either it's something fundamental the Mac architecture that would disallow this or else it's just that the Logos version of Mac doesn't have the feature or...?

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 11 2015 5:50 PM

J. Remington Bowling:
So far we haven't heard from Logos, so I don't know.

Ah, but we have. (i.e. https://community.logos.com/forums/p/76735/538469.aspx#538469)

J. Remington Bowling:
or else it's just that the Logos version of Mac doesn't have the feature or...?

Havent I demonstrated that this isn't the case? See the screen shot above! 

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J. Remington Bowling | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 11 2015 5:50 PM

alabama24:

J. Remington Bowling:
Of course the best thing would be for Logos to fix/add this feature if possible.

...but Faithlife doesn't make OneNote / Evernote / Pages. There is nothing to "fix" without those developers providing that capability.

Notice that on the Noet page it says "Noet cites your sources for you: just choose your preferred citation style and copy–paste from a Noet book into your word processor. When you’re done writing, it even builds your bibliography automatically!"

Notice that it doesn't say this feature only works with MS Word on Mac. So a few questions:

1. Does this feature work via Noet on Pages, Google Docs, OneNote etc for Mac?

2. If not, then given that Noet advertises itself as having this feature on word processors it would seem to be the fault of Faithlife for this feature not working... Or else they didn't bother to see that this wasn't possible to do on word processors generally on Mac.

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J. Remington Bowling | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 11 2015 5:53 PM

alabama24:

J. Remington Bowling:
So far we haven't heard from Logos, so I don't know.

Ah, but we have. 

J. Remington Bowling:
or else it's just that the Logos version of Mac doesn't have the feature or...?

Havent I demonstrated that this isn't the case? See the screen shot above! 

Sorry but I don't see where Logos has chimed in? Do you work for Logos or anyone else in this thread (I genuinely don't know)?

But that doesn't mean the feature isn't bugged. Maybe it's intended to work for word processors generally (see their Noet claim) but it's not functioning correctly.

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