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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 4 2015 2:44 AM

Randy W. Sims:
The amount of info and presentation make me wish for a search.

I'd like a search too, but search is hard get right. I'm not saying 'no', but it's probably unlikely.

Randy W. Sims:
And/or if feasible, to add the first letter navigation that's on most of the tabs to the All Resources tab? I think I'm wandering a bit beyond your intended usage.

The reason I didn't do this is that there are probably too many resources. Even on average there would be more than 1,000 resources per page (26,500 resources on 26 pages), and of course in practice there's be only a handful of 'Z's, but several thousands 'T's and 'N's, etc. I might change it, but again, it's unlikely, sorry.

Randy W. Sims:
I love the way everything is interlinked. Pull up a resource, click on author to find books by that author, etc. Same with subjects, publishers, etc. Everything is linked--just like a library should be. I LOVE this! Why doesn't Logos do this yet?!?!

There's a fundamental difference between my site and Logos'. Logos' site deals with products, my site deals with resources. The relationship between products and resources is complex.

A shop would be product-centric. A library (or library catalogue) would be resource-centric. The problem is that we want both!

I think that the Logos product range is big enough now to need to be able to make that distinction, and there have been small moves to adding resource information to the web site (if there hadn't been, I couldn't have produced my site). But it would be a very fundamental and significant change if the Logos website allowed us to be resource-centric, not just product-centric.

Randy W. Sims:
What is the "Num Copies" field on the Resources tab? If it's number of times that resource is counted amoung all uploaded libraries, I'm curious why it is 0 fairly often? Would love to sort on that field to see popular resources.

I've actually removed that column to make room for series/subject, which I think is more useful. But it is an interesting stat and it still shows up on the resource page. If it's 0 it means that someone has run a "new to me" report that has discovered resources that nobody owns. (There are also resources the site doesn't know about yet, too.)

Randy W. Sims:
Love stats.

Me too. An early alpha of the site included user ratings and tags, etc. (either community ratings or the user rating), but it wasn't practical to continue with that, unfortunately. But if Logos did something similar, they'd have a wealth of information that I don't have access to.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 4 2015 2:52 AM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

We actually have this feature in the works for a big promotion we're planning for September. The plan is to role this out initially across all collection product pages included in the sale.

That's good to hear.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 4 2015 5:20 PM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

We actually have this feature in the works for a big promotion we're planning for September. The plan is to role this out initially across all collection product pages included in the sale.

Great news! Yes

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 4 2015 8:12 PM

Might be interesting to have a way to export this into goodreads...

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Claude Brown Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 4 2015 8:15 PM

Would be great as right now I am a little concerned. My library on my Qosmio says that I have 4949 in All resources. My Dell Inspiron says that I 4,809 titles in All Resources. My Logos upgrade page says that I have 6736 resources. I talked with Customer support and they said that the difference on computers was probably personal books. I was also told that "resources" datasets and features don't show in the library.  I have 176 personal books on my Qosmio, all of which show up on my Dell Inspiron even though I can not open them (sigh). The difference between the two computers is 140 titles. That alone is scary, but even more scary is that depending upon which computer I am working with the difference between My Logos page and the Qosmio is 1827 datasets and resources. All that customer service could tell me is that yes I have more than 1000 resources outside of books. Given that Logos has "resources" that I can not access unless I am connected to the internet, I would really like to know what I do own. Even in what they offer in the upgrade they refer to 62 new resources which turn out to be all books as I have  all of the datasets, interactive media, media collections offered by Logos. I would really like to know why the difference between computers and what Logos says I "own".

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 4 2015 8:22 PM

Claude Brown Jr:
My library on my Qosmio says that I have 4949 in All resources. My Dell Inspiron says that I 4,809 titles in All Resources. My Logos upgrade page says that I have 6736 resources. I talked with Customer support and they said that the difference on computers was probably personal books. I was also told that "resources" datasets and features don't show in the library.  I have 176 personal books on my Qosmio, all of which show up on my Dell Inspiron even though I can not open them (sigh). The difference between the two computers is 140 titles.

Some thoughts:

  • Personal books don't sync unless you tell them to, but the metadata does (title, author, etc.). 
  • The count of resources in your library will not include many "data sets." For example: The reverse interlinear for the ESV is bundled with the ESV text itself... You don't open the RI from the library, you open it from the ESV text. 
  • Have you tried running the commands "update now" and/or "update resources"?

Claude Brown Jr:
I would really like to know why the difference between computers and what Logos says I "own".

This is an interesting question, and pops up somewhat frequently. It is, however, a topic for another thread. If you are still concerned about it, please create a new thread.

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Claude Brown Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 4 2015 8:40 PM

Actually the tool provided did it for me as I was able to see that the resources "missing" were the 1374 Perseus Digital Library volumes that are hidden in my library by my choice.

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Claude Brown Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 4 2015 8:58 PM

Thank you thank you thank you. This tool is awesome just what I needed.

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Sarel Slabbert | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 4 2015 9:25 PM

Hi Mark,

I really enjoy this tool. I have spend quite some time browsing different collections and bundles and I have identified a few that is now on my wishlist. Thanks. I was just wondering (due to my own limited knowledge): how safe is it to upload our data files to a server? Is it anonymous? Are any personal details uploaded?

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 5 2015 6:19 AM

Sarel Slabbert:
I really enjoy this tool. I have spend quite some time browsing different collections and bundles and I have identified a few that is now on my wishlist. Thanks. I was just wondering (due to my own limited knowledge): how safe is it to upload our data files to a server? Is it anonymous? Are any personal details uploaded?

The file that you upload to the server contains:

  1. A list of resources that you've hidden.
  2. A list of resources that you have in your library
  3. The date/time each resource was updated.

When you upload the file, I copy (1) and (2) into my own database, then delete your file. I ignore the information in (3). You can erase your data at any time, at which point it is fully removed from my database. 

The file does contain the titles of personal books (but not the contents). However, I ignore these, so no information is stored about personal books on the server. It contains no other personal information, not even custom titles/series/tags/ratings. You do, of course, provide your name/email address when you register (although there's nothing stopping you providing fake details).

If the site was hacked (which I'm confident it won't be), the worst that the hackers could know would be your email address (if you've provided a real one), and a list of Logos resources you've owned/hidden.

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 5 2015 7:46 AM

Mark  - what about for those serving in sensitive contexts?

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 5 2015 8:20 AM

abondservant:

Mark  - what about for those serving in sensitive contexts?

The same applies. I can only describe what the site does and what data it stores/processes. Each user needs to assess risk for themselves. The site isn't super-secure (no https for example) but it's reasonably secure, and is very unlikely to be targeted by hackers. The amount of personal information is minimal, and you can give fake data if you're worried. But in a very small number of contexts (e.g. if you think your connection is being intercepted and monitored, and you don't want snoopers knowing what books you own), then this site isn't for you.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 5 2015 8:24 AM

Beloved:
Secondly, I own NICOT/NT save one resource which I can ferret out with a little work, but your program makes me lazy and I would like it to identify which resource is new to me as it is your program does not recognize any of the volumes I already own. Is there a way to remedy this?

This is fixed now: http://www.mylogoslibrary.com/newtome.php?product_page=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.logos.com%2Fproduct%2F52382%2Fnew-international-commentary-on-the-old-and-new-testament 

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 5 2015 9:21 AM

Randy W. Sims:
And/or if feasible, to add the first letter navigation that's on most of the tabs to the All Resources tab? I think I'm wandering a bit beyond your intended usage.

I relented on this, and have made the change. It's rather unwieldy, to say the least, but at least you can find resources by name, now.

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Don Awalt | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 5 2015 11:14 AM

I have had a couple other opportunities to use your site Mark as other dynamic pricing products have popped up. I am getting the hang of it and this is really a very valuable and useful resource. Thanks again for providing it to us!

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James Taylor | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 5 2015 11:48 AM

Mark Barnes:
The file that you upload to the server

After I find the resource Manager file and double click, the window disappears but nothing further happens. It still shows the "upload your library" page and when I check the resources tab, it shows I own 0 resources. Thanks for the help, cant wait to use this

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James Taylor | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 5 2015 11:50 AM

James Taylor:
when I check the resources tab, it shows I own 0 resources.

does it matter that Logos is indexing currently?

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 5 2015 12:48 PM

James Taylor:

Mark Barnes:
The file that you upload to the server

After I find the resource Manager file and double click, the window disappears but nothing further happens. It still shows the "upload your library" page and when I check the resources tab, it shows I own 0 resources. Thanks for the help, cant wait to use this

You should get the green bar slowing filing up. What browser are you using?

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James Taylor | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 5 2015 12:50 PM

Mark Barnes:
problems with Firefox

I'm using Microsoft Edge

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 5 2015 12:51 PM

James Taylor:
I'm using Microsoft Edge

I can't test on Edge at the moment, sorry. Can you try IE or Chrome for now?

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