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John Kojo Ntsiful | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 18 2016 12:47 PM

because I cannot get libronix to install on window 10

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 18 2016 1:35 PM

John Kojo Ntsiful:
When I installed the core of logos 6 I did not get my unlocked books on the cds

Contact Customer Services (by Skype if necessary) about your CD's - make sure you have Serial numbers or other proof of purchase.

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Th. D. Hugo Gómez Astivia | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 10 2016 3:23 PM

I don't know the reasons of Graham, but I can tell you, since Logos 4 till Logos 6, is like you were working with Windows XP, and suddenly change to Vista.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 14 2016 1:32 PM

Th. D. Hugo Gómez Astivia:

I don't know the reasons of Graham, but I can tell you, since Logos 4 till Logos 6, is like you were working with Windows XP, and suddenly change to Vista.

I think many people are fond of "Libbie" and Windows XP but had a strong aversion to both Logos 4 and Vista!..."Libbie" was OK with Windows 7 but developed an aversion to Windows 8, 8.1 and Windows 10 whilst some claimed she was still OK. These are the reasons of Graham; why he is reluctant to recommend an old friend running on a new operating system unless you can run her on XP in a virtual machine environment.

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Erik Pedersen | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 18 2016 6:47 AM

Still using Libronix 3.0g without a problem on Windows 10 and am as happy as a pig in mud.

Upgrade, why ?

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 20 2016 2:22 AM

Erik Pedersen:
Upgrade, why ?

I've never seen a piggie upgradeBig Smile

If it works for you then stick with it.

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 20 2016 4:57 AM

We need to get the two of you talking to each other:

John Kojo Ntsiful:

because I cannot get libronix to install on window 10

Erik Pedersen:

Still using Libronix 3.0g without a problem on Windows 10 and am as happy as a pig in mud.
Upgrade, why ?

How did you install Libronix 3.0 on Windows 10? - Thanks

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Peik Wan Oldreive | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 2 2016 4:30 PM

Hi There,

I have just bought a window 10 laptop.  Can anyone kindly guide me how  to install Libronix please? I have written to Logos and they say I cannot use my CDRoms anymore.  They suggest a base package to me at a cost of USD899.   Or Logos 6 with discount on the books I already own but are not helpful at all guiding me on how to find out the extra money I have to spend.

I have written to them  but their reply is slow in coming.

Thank you.

PW

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 2 2016 7:02 PM

Peik Wan Oldreive:
I have just bought a window 10 laptop.  Can anyone kindly guide me how  to install Libronix please?

Welcome Big Smile

Logos Support page => https://www.logos.com/support/logos4/windows includes:

Support for Previous Versions:

Libronix Digital Library System (LDLS or Logos 3)

NOTE: Libronix Digital Library System was discontinued in 2009 and is no longer supported. As of March 31, 2012, new resource files are only compatible with the Logos 4 program. An archive of help articles can be found here.

On 22 Oct 2009, Microsoft released Windows 7 => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7

Libronix 3 was written for Internet Explorer 8 (IE8) in Windows Vista. A patch to use IE8 JavaScript in Internet Explorer 9 (IE9) allowed Libronix 3.0g to work in Windows 7 after IE9 was released in 2011 => https://www.logos.com/support/windows/L3/IE9

Windows 10 replaced Internet Explorer with Edge for rendering web pages so would recommend using a virtual machine running an older version of Windows with IE8 or IE9 that has the display engine used by Libronix 3.0g

Apologies: personally using Logos 7 on Windows 10 and have not tried installing Libronix 3.0g on Windows 10.

If your Libronix licenses were previously synced, the same account can be used to freely install Logos 6 => https://www.logos.com/support/install_logos_6 on Windows 10.

If your licenses were not synced, then you can use => https://www.logos.com/redeem to associate your Libronix product code(s) with your Faithlife account.

FYI: Libronix and Faithlife have different login account systems, which has automatic sync.  Hence, installing newer Logos 6 or 7 would download older resources licensed for Libronix.

For Logos 7, suggest looking at Logos Now membership that includes a discount for any base package purchase.

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S. McKell | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 7 2016 12:02 AM

not working wont download :(

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Robert Campbell | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 26 2017 3:55 PM

I installed Libronix 3.0f on to Windows 10 using my disks. It loaded just fine but the books are all locked and will not open. I called  Logos and they told me that the books on my disks are in the OPEN position but Windows 10 will not let them open. I will pay a tech. if he could help me out in this matter.

Bob Campbell

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 26 2017 9:43 PM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
Windows 10 replaced Internet Explorer with Edge for rendering web pages

Windows 10 does include the rendering engines for Internet Explorer 11, 10, 9, 8, 7 and probably lower versions as well.

If Libronix doesn't work on Win 10, then that's not due to missing rendering, and root causes should be investigated elsewhere.

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Walton Gracey | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 25 2017 1:30 PM

I have been following this thread because I have similar problems. I have installed Libronix on a new laptop running Windows 10. The programme has apparently installed OK but when I try to open my library I get a message saying I cannot unlock until my account is activated. When I go to Tools > Account management and enter my email and code I cannot get any farther. No messages, nothing, it just stops. Can anyone tell me why this should be and what ai can do to resolve the problem?

Why do I want to install Libronix? Because I prefer it.

I have Logos6 installed but prefer the earlier version.

Walton Gracey

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Steven Harris | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 15 2017 6:27 PM

I stumbled onto this discussion in a search for the Libronix Update line 46 error. I have fixed that issue, and decided to share my experience of reinstalling several Nelson Electronic Bible Reference Library editions/packages, Libronix, and the latest Logos version on my Dell laptop running Windows 10 Pro.

I had the professional version (72 books I believe) of NEBRL, and wanted to start there first, since it was the oldest (required Windows 3.1). In order to install them, I only had to run the installation file from the CD with elevated privileges. This started and installed with no issues, and opened flawlessly. I had several other NEBRL sets (Charles Stanley, John MacArthur, and Vernon McGee) that I installed in the same manner as the first. I did have an issue with font installation of them, but was worked around by finding the actual SETUP.EXE file, and running it with elevated privileges. All books were added, and the program run perfectly.

I then moved on to the many Libronix libraries that I own as well. I started with The Thomas Nelson Study library that I picked up at Lifeway many years ago. It installed the earliest version of LDLS (1.0 I believe). Everything went fine, until I was notified that Libronix was not activated. I typed in the info I used to originally activate, and kept getting an error. Thankfully, after some exhausting searching, I actually found a back up file of my original activation, and restored it. Activation went through immediately. I was still getting the line 46 error when trying to update. I couldn't find a legitimate fix at the time, so skipped it and continued installing my other Libronix libraries. All went fine, except the line 46 error, and along the way some of the newer discs had updated versions of LDLS.

I finally hit the ceiling on installing all of my libraries, and then realized that Libronix had been discontinued. After some exhausting searches in forums, and discovering this one, I ran the 3.0g update, which installed an early version of Logos, as well. After encountering several errors, Libronix is running just fine. It runs even better after running the 3 files recommended earlier in this discussion (datafilesautoupdate.lbxupd, logosaddinsautoupdate.lbxupd, resourceautoupdate.lbxupd).

Once I realized that I could bring most (NOT ALL) of my resources into Logos, I am now running Logos 6 (core package). This is the one reason I am retaining Libronix. In my opinion, all the resources I have bought and paid for in Libronix should have been automatically added into Logos, without lengthy phone calls to CS, only to discover that they cannot be added for one reason or another.

In the end, I have both programs running, 3 if you count the ancient NEBRL, and all are working without issues. Not sure if any of this helps anyone else...

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Philip | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 15 2018 5:48 AM

The reason I am not really interested in Logos6 or Logos7 is because all i want to do is read the Archive CD-ROMs I spent hundreds of dollars buying some years back.  I am very, very far from rich and completely unable to purchase any updated CD ROMs annd feel that having invested all that money I should be able to simply read the documents.

For years I have been trying to do this and, to be truthful, feel that Logos Bible is run by scammers whose only interest is making money and not serving the Body Of Christ!

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Bernhard | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 15 2018 6:30 AM

Philip:
The reason I am not really interested in Logos6 or Logos7 is because all i want to do is read the Archive CD-ROMs

What CD-Roms are you referring to? You do realize that there is a free version of Logos 7, right? https://www.logos.com/product/136022/basic 

If you log in with the same credentials as you used for Libronix, your old resources should be there. If not, call Customer Service. From what I read on the forum here, there are very few features and/or extras on some CDs that might not carry over. 

All of that was already described in this thread. But maybe I misunderstood you?

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 15 2018 7:55 AM

Philip:
The reason I am not really interested in Logos6 or Logos7 is because all i want to do is read the Archive CD-ROMs I spent hundreds of dollars buying some years back.  I am very, very far from rich and completely unable to purchase any updated CD ROMs annd feel that having invested all that money I should be able to simply read the documents.

Welcome Big Smile

Were your archive CD's ever registered to you and license synced ?

If yes, then concur with Bernhard about logging into Logos 7 (and few Libronix features are not in Logos 7)

Bernhard:
If you log in with the same credentials as you used for Libronix, your old resources should be there. If not, call Customer Service. From what I read on the forum here, there are very few features and/or extras on some CDs that might not carry over. 

If no, then one option is login to https://www.logos.com followed by using https://www.logos.com/redeem to associate your Archive CDs with your Faithlife account. Other option is contacting Customer Service => https://www.logos.com/contact

Recommend "purchasing" free Logos 7 Basic =>  https://www.logos.com/product/136022/basic that includes many "access-only" resources for you to freely use while having no effect on dynamic upgrade pricing. Faithlife goal is pay once for resource that you can use on your personal devices. Caveat: some publishers allow dynamic upgrade pricing for limited time while others do not allow dynamic pricing at all.

Libronix resources had a mix of publisher agreements: some allowed mobile access while others did not. If mobile access was allowed, then can use mobile apps OR Web App => https://app.logos.com (need to purchase Basic so can use Web App).

Thankful free Basic includes Bibles with Reverse Interlinears so can use my favorite feature of visual filter highlighting to "see" range of Greek verbal expression => https://wiki.logos.com/Extended_Tips_for_Highlighting_and_Visual_Filters#Examples_of_visual_filters Thankful for Faithlife enabling free sharing of documents so visual filters can be copied.

Also Thankful for many free Logos resources => https://www.logos.com/products/search?q=price%3A0&Status=Live&start=&sort=bestselling&pageSize=60&unlocked=no and free Vyrso eBooks => https://vyrso.com/products/search?q=price%3a0&start=0&sort=bestselling&pageSize=60&unlocked=no

Philip:
For years I have been trying to do this and, to be truthful, feel that Logos Bible is run by scammers whose only interest is making money and not serving the Body Of Christ!

Observation: friendly forum discussion years ago would have helped sooner so you could have been using your Archive CDs. Personally amazed by number of years Faithlife kept Libronix servers running after last release of Libronix 3. Thankful could sync Libronix licenses to expand my Logos 4 library (still have CDs - nostalgia).

Faithlife is a for profit corporation. Profit = Revenue - Expenses. CEO reply on 1 Nov 2012 included profit insights => https://community.logos.com/forums/p/58026/413124.aspx#413124

Bob Pritchett:

Jacques:
He feels they should be ashamed for this kind of profit-margin, it's not reasonable.

What would a reasonable profit margin be? What profit margin does your friend think Logos has?

For what it's worth, I got our third-quarter financials earlier this week. For 2012 so far, the Logos profit margin was just about 0.38%. (Not 38%. Less than half of one percent.

 

Now I'm not looking for sympathy -- we're fine. It's better than that most years, and the first three quarters of this year reflect a lot of investment in Logos 5 that hadn't yet generated any revenue. (That's what we're doing now!) I expect we'll end the year with solid single-digit profitability, and we've beaten that in the past.

 

But the point is, we have to sell something in order to be here to serve you into the future. It's insanely expensive to develop software, especially when you have to develop the same software on Mac, Windows, Android/Kindle, iPhone/iPad, Web (and now Windows 8 RT!) simultaneously. While offering free support.

 

So I'll take the criticism that we're always trying to sell you more books -- it's true, and it's the only way we get paid. Though, at every upgrade cycle, it does condemn us to a lot of impassioned forum conversations about the injustice of upgrade bundles. :-)

 

I do welcome your input on a solution. Maybe the "free software" concept was a bad idea? Few other products I have have been offering free engine updates -- in any form -- since 1995. I've bought Word, Excel, Windows, Mac OS, etc. many times in those 17 years. Should Logos just move to paid upgrades, and stop making so many books? (It might be hard to make that change after all these years, but it's an interesting question.)

 

I appreciate your investing in our product, and I hope that you'll continue to believe it has been a good investment. And I want you to know that we're working hard to serve you better AND ensure that we're here for decades to come to support the investment you have made. Input on how to do that is always welcome.

 

(My favorite idea... just convince every Christian in America to pay $3 per month... then we could offer everybody all the content, support, and continued maintenance for a very low price! The only trick is getting everyone signed up at once...) :-)

 

-- Bob

If resource sales slow down, then personnel are let go (reduce expenses) to keep Faithlife profitable (has happened since 2012 = sad). Thankful for Faithlife still being in business plus amazed at free Bible Study capabilities in desktop applications and mobile apps.

For years, Faithlife has provided free Bible verse lookup for many web sites that is discussed in forum => Biblia.com API

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Asvin | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 6 2019 6:09 AM

Dear Jacmer,

Greetings !!!

Can you please send me step by step procedure to install libronix bible software in my windows 10. I tried to install but it wont workout, 

getting error " Windows Installer Package Invalid " 

highly appreciated your quick response.

Thanks 

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 6 2019 6:40 AM

Hi Asvin,

welcome to the user forums!

Asvin:
Can you please send me step by step procedure to install libronix bible software in my windows 10

There's a large probability that Libronix can't be installed under Windows 10 (unless using a virtual machine with older OS) - and most probably it's not even necessary to do so. I would advise nearly every user to install the latest Logos 8 stable version, as the software is free (e.g. "buy" Logos 8 Basic for $0 and install). The products/resources you licensed on your libronix CD-ROM will automatically download to your Logos 8 installation, if you use the same eMail address as when you installed the CD-ROM previously. If the Libronix CD-ROM is new, you can put the resources into your account after you installed Logos 8 by putting in the Product Key from the CD-ROM case into http://logos.com/redeem . Otherwise you can have that done by customer service.

Hope this helps,

Mick

 

Running Logos 8 latest beta version on Win 10

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