NJB Complete.
The New Jerusalem Bible: The Complete Text of the Ancient Canon of the Scriptures
Just up on Pre-Pub... one of the best translations out there I have wanted the full notes edition for a long time... I can not be the only one who wants this.
-Dan
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One more thing.... unlike our readers edition, this one has no restrictions listed so I am guessing all our non North American friends can purchase it finally.
-Dan
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Dan Francis said:
One more thing.... unlike our readers edition, this one has no restrictions listed so I am guessing all our non North American friends can purchase it finally.
I hate to bring bad news, but I'm pretty sure this is a mistake. (Crown only manages North American rights, so I don't think we have international rights yet.)
Sorry.
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Well, Dan, I guess we'll just have to move to America and establish residency to get it. [:(]
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Kendall Sholtess said:
Well, Dan, I guess we'll just have to move to America and establish residency to get it.
Yes and no... in the past if one preorders things not saleable to your country orders have been honoured of those who preordered it before it got tagged as not for sale to them. I have purchased a book that was only suppose to be for Europe and Australia because I ordered it when it was mistakenly listed as for sale only in North America. And I also got the CCC when Logos only had rights for the US only, since then they have got rights for north america. So often times preorders made before restrictions are clearly in place will be honoured. Worse case scenario you get an email telling you you can not get it, so give it a try.
-Dan
EDIT: Residency restrictions have now been noted on the Bible to North America, sorry if you read this and got your hopes up... [:(]
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I am saying nothing [:#] [:(]
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Dan Francis said:
so give it a try.
I ordered this about ten minutes before your edit (overstrike), and looks like it worked.
But I am open, if they don't sell it to me, just fine.
On the other hand, these sanctions sound ridiculous for me, why the high level Christian business managers cannot find global agreements?
I've been working in many countries and studied in US - so knowing what I can buy where and and what I am allowed to use in each location would be impossible to follow (although what I should forget in each specific country is easier because I am in the process of losing my memory, I'll forget everything anyway [:)] ) .
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What intrigues me is that I can usually buy those same books from Amazon.com although I live in the UK. The only restriction is that i can only buy one copy!
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I pre-ordered this resource quite soon after it was put up on the Logos website. I'm in Scotland and my pre-order is still showing as valid.
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Veli Voipio said:
On the other hand, these sanctions sound ridiculous for me, why the high level Christian business managers cannot find global agreements?
THEY [and yes, there are more then one of them] have divided the world into 'sections' most likely to manage hard copy sales and distribution. Then, Oops, along comes world wide e-users. And some of the THEY are BIG.
[Does it work if you rent a post office box in the US to give your self a US address for a credit card?
The credit card company may need to know that you really live on the moon but do the people that get paid by that post office box credit card?]
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Available for preorder for over a week and still not under contract???? This is outrageous... But mockery aside this is one of the most important translations of the 20th century. Many of you may well have the readers edition of NJB in your Libraries but to give you an idea for those of you not familiar with it. Imagine the NIV Study Bible was published first and the the translation was excised out of it with the bare minimal notes.
This is the full text:
1 At many moments in the past and by many means, God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets; 2 but in our time, the final days, a he has spoken to us in the person of his Son, b whom he appointed heir of all things c and through whom he made the ages. d 3 He is the reflection of God’s glory and bears the impress of God’s own being, e sustaining all things by his powerful command; and now that he has purged sins away, he has taken his seat at the right hand of the divine Majesty on high. 4 So he is now as far above the angels as the title which he has inherited is higher than their own name.
a. In the fullness of time, Mk 1:15; Ga 4:4c, the last times or the last days begin, Ac 2:17; 1 P 1:20.
b. After the prophets, God sends an envoy who is no longer a mere messenger like the others; he is ‘Son’, cf. Mk 12:2-6; Rm 1:4c, he is even the Word, Jn 1:1a, 14m.
c. To be a son implies having the right to inherit, cf. Mt 21:38, Ga 4:7. Here, however, God is credited with the handing over of the whole creation because the inheritance in question is messianic and eschatological.
d. Hebraism for the whole of creation.
e. These two metaphors are borrowed from the sophia and logos theologies of Alexandria, Ws 7:25-26; they express both the identity of nature between Father and Son, and the distinction of persons. The Son is the brightness, the light shining from its source, which is the bright glory, see Ex 24:16f, of the Father (‘Light from Light’). He is also the replica, see Col 1:15d, of the Father’s substance, like an exact impression made by a seal on clay or wax, cf. Jn 14:9.This is what the readers version we currently own in Logos provides:
1 At many moments in the past and by many means, God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets; but 2 in our time, the final days, he has spoken to us in the person of his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things and through whom he made the ages. 3 He is the reflection of God’s glory and bears the impress of God’s own being, * sustaining all things by his powerful command; and now that he has purged sins away, he has taken his seat at the right hand of the divine Majesty on high. 4 So he is now as far above the angels as the title which he has inherited is higher than their own name.
* cf. Ws 7:25–26.
The New Jerusalem Bible (New York: Doubleday, 1985), Heb 1:1–4.
This is an invaluable work that every scholar of the Bible should want in their library. For $15.99 it is one of the greatest bargains you will find in the Logos world. Please consider ordering it to help bring this work in it's fullness to Logos.
-Dan
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I would like to know whether the notes will be published as a separate resource. They look about as substantial as some commentaries.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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SineNomine said:
I would like to know whether the notes will be published as a separate resource. They look about as substantial as some commentaries.
Let me rephrase:
Faithlife, will the notes to this Bible be available as a separate resource? This matters a great deal as to whether I will order it.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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We are still deciding. There are some technical considerations we are evaluating. We should know in a couple of days once we have all the data.
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Kyle G. Anderson said:
We are still deciding. There are some technical considerations we are evaluating. We should know in a couple of days once we have all the data.
Thanks for the update!
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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Kyle G. Anderson said:
We are still deciding. There are some technical considerations we are evaluating. We should know in a couple of days once we have all the data.
Still deciding? If yes, that's ok.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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SineNomine said:
Still deciding? If yes, that's ok.
Yeah. We're hoping to have answer next week.
Thanks for your patience.
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Louis St. Hilaire said:SineNomine said:
Still deciding? If yes, that's ok.
Yeah. We're hoping to have answer next week.
Thanks for your patience.
You're welcome. Do you have the answer yet? I can be more patient.
I have now pre-ordered, but if it ends up being a No, I will cancel. If the notes are not going to show up in the Commentaries section of the Passage Guide, I know that I won't end up using them.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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Louis St. Hilaire said:SineNomine said:
Still deciding? If yes, that's ok.
Yeah. We're hoping to have answer next week.
Thanks for your patience.
It's been more than a month. Can you give me a new ETA on the answer?
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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also waiting for an answer...
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SineNomine said:Louis St. Hilaire said:SineNomine said:
Still deciding? If yes, that's ok.
Yeah. We're hoping to have answer next week.
Thanks for your patience.
It's been more than a month. Can you give me a new ETA on the answer?
Sorry. I simply forgot to follow up on the thread.
The notes will be produced as a separate resource.
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Louis St. Hilaire said:
Sorry. I simply forgot to follow up on the thread.
Forgiven. [:)]
Louis St. Hilaire said:The notes will be produced as a separate resource.
Great!
For marketing purposes, you may want to note that on the product page.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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Please be a separate resource! So much more useful that way!
"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton
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As I understand it much like the Lutheran study apocrypha it will be two distinct resources but not purchasable separately ie. If you want the ESV apocrypha you have to buy the Lutheran study apocrypha, if you want the study notes you have to buy the set.
Dan
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KEEP ON PUSHING
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Louis St. Hilaire said:The notes will be produced as a separate resource.
SineNomine said:For marketing purposes, you may want to note that on the product page.
I still think that it could be helpful to note that the copious notes will be produced as a separate Bible Commentary resource. People like commentaries.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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