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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Aug 23 2015 8:13 PM

How can I control what appears in the Visualizations Section?

Tim Hensler:

I like using the Visualization resources in Logos, but not all of them.  The Visualizations section of the Passage Guide lists all Visualization resources, but there are a few that have similar versions, such as The Lexham Syntactic Greek New Testament which has both a SBL version and a non-SBL version.  I don't need both, and I don't use all the others.

Is there a way to get a limited list of specific visualization resources in a Passage Guide? 

Fredc:

You can prioritize these as you do other resources. You can also hide them and that will remove them from the Guide as well.

What is the gesture to find the Passage Guide in the iPhone/iPad app?

alabama24:

Dale Garman:

I'm not sure when I lost it, but used to be able to do a swipe and access PG and commentary resources in the apple apps.  Now it appears you have to go through layers of options to get there.  Am I missing something or is there still a fast way to access within the context of a passage?

You likely have "scrolling" view on. If you change back to page view, the upswipe still works. I don't remember if there is a gesture for scrolling view, but I know I have had problems with that too.

Graham Criddle:

Dale Garman:

perhaps my ignorance but I can't find that setting in either the iphone or Logos app.  Where did you find it?

Thanks appreciate the help

If you tap on the resource and then the Aa icon you can toggle scrolling view

Or if you tap on the "action" icon you can run the Passage Guide (and other things)

Which of the Parallel resources is most useful?

NB.Mick:

Rob Suggs:

I have at least seven of these. I think I actually bought Throckmorton's parallel gospels because I had heard good things about  it.

Does anyone have opinions about the best, most reliable and helpful volumes in this genre? I realize that about 95 percent of them will be the same across the board. I'm thinking of working closely with one in the future, trying to look at Jesus' life across the span of the gospels--maybe just the synoptics, maybe all four--and I'd love some advice on which is best.

I have used a paper-based German version in the past (Peisker, who also includes some extra-biblical texts if they fit as parallels) and now with Logos I will have to look into it again, thanks for bringing this up. Without pictures and just the information "I like this" or "I used that since 19XX" this thread is maybe less helpful than it could be. I will provide my rationale (so far as it goes with nearly equivalent resources) - everybody is free to disagree or to chime in with aspects I overlooked.

I tested the harmonies by opening the Way to Golgotha/Crucification passages, which are contained in all gospels.

Of the number of gospel-harmony resources that I have in my library (I wouldn't buy one especially for this purpose), I would rule out those that give only the first three gospels (Burton & Goodspeed, Jackson). The reason is that imho all four gospels are scripture and basically claim to tell the same historic facts, albeit arranged, selected or worded differently. I wouldn't want to miss information from John. Jackson moreover follows a strange layout (he gives Mark, then Luke, then Matthew), which is too confusing for me. That leaves the Eusebian Harmony

as well as Alandt

and Robertson, who includes an additional comment column.

of these, I think I like the last two best. Both provide titled paragraphs, whereas Eusebius numbered the snippets from each of the four gospels individually and brought them together (shame on me for leaving the TOC out of the pictures, which shows this in more detail: while Alandt and Robertson's titles allow for navigation, Eusebius' numbers do not).

Robertson's text blocks tend to be rather long, as opposed to the short snippets of Alandt. The short snippets may look more scholarly (doubtless they are), but I think we fall prey to "chopping up" the bible into bits and pieces far too often. This, and my curiosity about his notes, will most propably tip the scales towards Robertson for me.

I did another comparison: the Anointment(s). Luke 7:36-50 - Anonitment by a sinful woman in Galilee - is treated as without parallel in Robertson, whereas he gives Mt, Mk and Jn in the Anointment at Bethany scene, accompanied with detailed explanation why these are different events.

Alandt obviously thinks the same, but this is only implicit as he puts all four texts once in the Jesus' Ministry in Galilee section (§114) and a second time in the Passion Narrative (§306). Thus he allows for comparing Luke with the other three, but gives no explanation (not even cross-links or footnotes), thus his subtle point might be missed by beginners like me.

For me, this settles the case for Robertson - even if I was not to agree on his conclusions, at least his discussion will tell there is something to look for.

Hope this helps,

Mick

Why don't I have the links to external websites and Logos.com in Passage Guide?

MJ. Smith:

MikeG53:

At the bottom of the resulting passage guide in the training video are links to "Bookstore" (Logos.com I think) and then several other external websites like Gracewaymedia.com, Sermonaudio.com, etc.  When I run a passage guide using the same approach, I don't see these links.  Is that turned off in Verbum?  Or do I just not have any of those resources?

The features are not available in Verbum. I run Logos when I need to see them for testing,; I run Verbum the rest of the time.

How do I make a Magazine section like the Journal section?

Tim Finlay:

The new "Journals" section of the Passage Guide is very handy. However, I have several resources--such as Biblical Archeological Review, Archaeological Odyssey, Bible Review and Biblical Archeologist--that are categorized as magazines. I certainly want to be able to open any of these resources that pertain to the passage. Why not have a separate section for Magazines that arranges them by Articles, Rank, Resource or Count? At the moment, I use the Works Cited tool, but if we are to have a Journals section, why not a Magazine section? 

Bill Shewmaker:

Tim, you could make a collection of your various magazines (or a collection of each magazine) and then make a custom passage guide. Add a "collection" section to this custom passage guide and set it to search the collection "My Magazine" or mytag:magazine (if you tag your resources) or however you name it. It would the search just that collection.

Mark Smith:

Tim, the journals section relies on special tagging that Logos does to journals. If Logos has not already tagged them, a Magazine section would produce no results. I do not know if Logos has/is/plans to tag magazines in the same way as they are tagging journals.

How do I open a resource in a floating window from the Passage Guide?

Reuben Helmuth:

Holding Shift while you click the link will open to a floating window...

EDIT: BTW, this is also true of opening tools/resources from the command box. The only drawback is that you can't hit shift+enter, but need to hold shift while you mouse-click the item.

What is necessary for a PB to appear in the Commentary section of the Passage Guide?

steve clark:

Richard Lyall:
Is it enough to

  • set them all as Bible Commentary resource type
  • assign them all the same Series Title when compiling?

Richard,

i got curious at your questions and decided to investigate. (click on an image to view zoomed)

When i formed two books which contain notes from different studies and set them to be a series. L4 recognizes them as a series in the library, and even when i dragged one of them to the Prioritize window.

Next i had one example Commentary in which i copied an excerpt from the BKC to a docx and tagged it with Bible Verse milestones. i also set its type to Commentary. So to check your question i built a new docx with some of the ESV (Mark ch 1) to it and tagged it with Bible Verse milestones and set it to Commentary type. Then i Set both of them to be a Series with the same exact series name Steve's Comm Test.

Now they indeed show as a series in the library and it also recognizes them in prioritize window as a series.

Not only that, but i can type a reference to the other book in the reference box and L4 automatically switches to my other book. This works both way for each book.

So i think this might answer your questions. Logos seems to treat them just like a commentary series. i would suggest copying the series name and pasting it into other books series field to ensure the series name is exactly the same.

EDIT: when i have the BKC set to a verse range which exists in my PB commentary, Parallel Resources even recognizes my PB commentary as a parallel resource

Can I integrate an external web site into the Passage Guide?

Jason Skipper:

I was wondering if there were a way to integrate Bible.org into the passage guide in the same manner as sermonaudio.com and other online sites?

If Logos doesn't do it, am I able to do so?

TCBlack:

Unfortunately there's no way to do this at the moment.  I agree though that the ability to add sites to the passage guide would be a great addition. 

Can I copy from a Passage Guide into a note?

steve clark:

You can copy links & contents of the Passage Guide into your Notes.

1.  Open your PG to your verse. Then expand the sections that you want to copy
    (of course images will not be copied)

2.  From the PG open the Print/Export window. (click on menu icon and select Print/Export)
     In the Print/Export window click on Copy to clipboard.

3.  Now open your Note file and simply paste into a note (right click in a note's body and click on paste). This may take several seconds for larger content before it appears in your note.

Notice that the links to your commentaries are valid as well as links to scriptures are too.

Thought this might be useful to others. Smile

steve clark:

This also works with the other guides as well.

steve clark:

You can also use the above technique to:

1.  Copy the History window into a note. This might come in handy when wanting to document where you have been in a study.

2.  Copy links in Biblical People/Places/Things into a note.

steve clark:

Clippings copy pretty neat into a Note

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