Can I import a digital book that I own into Logos?

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Eric Fugate | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Sep 9 2015 8:45 AM

Recently I ordered "The Unseen Realm:..." and I am reading it on my Kindle.  I would love to load it in Vyrso or Logos to be able to link the references in the book.  Is it possible to import my digital copy?

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 9 2015 9:01 AM

Eric, it sounds like you are saying that you purchased a Kindle version of this rather than one offered in Logos. If that is the case you can't import it into Logos. (sorry)  But you can always purchase a Logos version too. Wink

I've purchased my copy in Logos because I want the tagging etc.

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Alexxy Olu | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 9 2015 9:10 AM

Welcome to the forums Eric.

Yes, you can import a digital book into Logos.

First convert the book into a docx document in word.

With this and the book cover ready, you then make it into a personal book in Logos by going to Tools --- Utilities ---- Personal books.

Click Add book and fill in the details: Name of Book, Author etc. then build the book.

For the book to appear on all your devices, you click on Upload when you have finish building the book.

More help available at:

https://wiki.logos.com/Personal_Books

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 9 2015 9:21 AM

Alexxy Olu:

Yes, you can import a digital book into Logos.

First convert the book into a docx document in word.

Thanks for pointing this out. In my mind I was answering the question whether it could be "directly imported" and the answer is "no". But a personal book could be a "possibility". Also note that most Kindle books are "locked" and can't be imported into other formats. See the following discussion earlier in the year about this - https://community.logos.com/forums/t/98818.aspx

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 9 2015 9:23 AM

Yes, it is quite possible to do.  As stated, you must convert it to a docx format before you can make a personal book of it.   Calibre is a free program that can help you do that.  And when you convert it, the Scripture references will probably be tagged, but the other serious tagging that goes into a Logos book will not take place.  (Unless, of course, you do it yourself, which is usually too much time and trouble to do.)

So the book can be read and searched in Logos, after conversion to a personal book.  But it will not be fully tagged.

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Geo Philips | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 9 2015 9:33 AM

Does this book have decent tagging in Logos for journals and other types of footnotes and references? To be honest, of late, I have seen many Logos books which could be tagged well but have not been.

Bruce Dunning:

Eric, it sounds like you are saying that you purchased a Kindle version of this rather than one offered in Logos. If that is the case you can't import it into Logos. (sorry)  But you can always purchase a Logos version too. Wink

I've purchased my copy in Logos because I want the tagging etc.

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Doc B | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 9 2015 9:45 AM

Geo Philips:
To be honest, of late, I have seen many Logos books which could be tagged well but have not been.

This is the great unknown. A few years ago, if a book was made available in Logos format, it was well-tagged. More recently, IMO the QC on tagging has gone downhill some. If you look at the volume of new resources coming out, I think the drop was unavoidable to some degree. Add to that confusion among buyers between Vyrso books and Logos resources, and it gets even more confusing.

I have started emailing customer support and asking about things like indexing and tagging. In some cases, I've gotten clear answers that helped me choose whether to buy the resource or not.

I would recommend that anyone buying a poorly-tagged resource not simply 'eat it', but ask for a refund and let them know why. You can always re-purchase it after the tagging has been improved.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 10 2015 11:28 AM

It is my experience that most poorly tagged new resources get fixed quickly when a complaint is made. It is getting old resources up to snuff that is the major problem.

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Michael Lawson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 13 2015 11:43 AM

Bruce, this is problematic when the book is not offered by LOGOS.  I'd like to purchase a Viola title, The Untold Story of the NT Church..." but it is simply not available other than Kindle or other e-reader.  Having to convert the book to Word is also a problem with time and functionality.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 13 2015 12:06 PM

Michael Lawson:
this is problematic when the book is not offered by LOGOS.  I'd like to purchase a Viola title, The Untold Story of the NT Church..." but it is simply not available other than Kindle or other e-reader.

I am unsure what you are trying to say. If a book doesn't have an ebook version in any format, why would you think it could be imported to Logos? 

As for the Viola title: Notice the highlighted section from Amazon:

The book referenced IS in Logos: https://www.logos.com/product/31449/finding-organic-church-a-comprehensive-guide-to-starting-and-sustaining-authentic-christian-communities 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 13 2015 12:07 PM

Nevermind about the Viola book. Embarrassed

I searched for the book you were looking for (via bing... trying it out) and was taken to the page shown above... Don't know why. I Searched Amazon for the same book and found this: http://www.amazon.com/Untold-Story-Testament-Church-extraordinary-ebook/dp/B0051OKXK2/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= 

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vondes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 24 2019 9:46 AM

First convert the book into a docx document in word.

With this and the book cover ready, you then make it into a personal book in Logos by going to Tools --- Utilities ---- Personal books.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 24 2019 10:02 AM

Alexxy Olu:

For the book to appear on all your devices, you click on Upload when you have finish building the book.

More help available at:

https://wiki.logos.com/Personal_Books



Does this mean it will show on the Mobile App and the Web App too? I thought they said (FL) that PB don’t show in Mobile devices.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 24 2019 10:42 AM

DAL:
I thought they said (FL) that PB don’t show in Mobile devices.

You are correct. Personal books do not show up on mobile devices although I sure wish they would.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 24 2019 10:44 AM

Bruce Dunning:

DAL:
I thought they said (FL) that PB don’t show in Mobile devices.

You are correct. Personal books do not show up on mobile devices although I sure wish they would.

You can say that again!

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Genghis | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 25 2019 6:10 PM

Yes to PB on Logos mobile apps

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 26 2019 2:25 AM

Eric Fugate:

Recently I ordered "The Unseen Realm:..." and I am reading it on my Kindle.  I would love to load it in Vyrso or Logos to be able to link the references in the book.  Is it possible to import my digital copy?

My policy is when the book do not exist in Logos, I buy Kindle version and import it as PB to Logos. The moment the book is made available in Logos (later) I buy Logos version and stop using PB version. This is how I understand fair play in this matter with Faithlife Company.

Bohuslav

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J. Remington Bowling | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 26 2019 6:32 AM

The book is only $13 on Logos. Calculate your average per hour wage and then figure out if that is worth your time to go through the trouble of getting a book from Kindle and into Logos with bad formatting and no footnote hyperlinks and no mobile access. 

Personally, it's not worth my time to waste an hour or possibly two hours getting a book from Kindle into Logos with an end product that is inferior to what it would be were I to simply buy the Logos book. 

One should also consider other, less tangible "costs" to the activity. For instance, is importing a book into Logos that Faithlife already sells at a reasonable price going to make it less likely that Faithlife will continue to improve and expand the PBB feature? What incentive does Faithlife have to make personal books accessible on mobile, when doing so further disadvantages them if it's being used to import books from other sellers that Logos already sells at relative price? (Relative to added features of a Logos book.)

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Doc B | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 26 2019 7:25 AM

J. Remington Bowling:
The book is only $13 on Logos.

Just a suggestion...copy a short bit of quote from the post to which you are responding.  I suspect you are responding to the OP, which makes complete sense. But your post immediately follows Bohuslav's post, and if that's the post to which you are responding, it looks like you completely ignored what he said. (But I suspect you aren't responding to him.)

The quote keeps things like this from blowing up into a non-issue kind of issue. At a minimum, it makes things more clear. Big Smile

Just a suggestion...take it or leave it.

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J. Remington Bowling | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 26 2019 7:33 AM

But sometimes these forums could use a little intrigue and spice, ya know? 

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