Should the NET Bible Noteless be included?

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Erwin Stull, Sr. | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Oct 13 2015 10:15 PM

Should I have a license for this if I already had it (at least 2 of the 3 resources) through a Logos 4 Base Package?

https://www.logos.com/product/4468/the-net-bible

I want to see if anyone had this question answered already before I contact CS. Thanks.

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NK | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2015 1:00 AM

I also do not have the "noteless" version.  But with your visual filters you can create your own noteless version by unchecking the "footnote indicators" box.

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John Goodman | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2015 2:10 AM

I think you have the noteless version but notes show in it because you also have the license for the notes... My guess is they are all listed on the page because the page is partly automated...

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2015 3:45 AM

When I look at the product page it shows that I own all the resources - but I don't know in which purchase they became available

May be best to check with Customer Services

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da | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2015 8:13 AM

see NET Bible with notes and more  at https://lumina.bible.org/

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permissions director for the netbible and www.bible.org 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2015 8:20 AM

Welcome to the forums David! Smile

da:

see NET Bible with notes and more  at https://lumina.bible.org/

david

permissions director for the netbible and www.bible.org 

Can you explain what you mean? The original post is asking if the resource should be owned by him because of a previous base package purchase in Logos. Are you a Logos user?

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Erwin Stull, Sr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2015 8:21 AM

da:

see NET Bible with notes and more  at https://lumina.bible.org/

david

permissions director for the netbible and www.bible.org 

Hi da;

I was looking at the site yesterday, and I must say that it is very nice. What I'm looking for is to get the Noteless part of the The NET Bible into my Logos system. I have the 2 primary component (The NET Bible and The NET Bible 1st Edition Notes), but not the remain Noteless component/resource.

Thanks

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da | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2015 8:28 AM

i believe you have the noteless version in your package as we have given it to logos.

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Erwin Stull, Sr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2015 8:31 AM

Graham Criddle:

When I look at the product page it shows that I own all the resources - but I don't know in which purchase they became available

May be best to check with Customer Services

Thanks Graham;

This is what I want to show for me as well (that I own all three). It has been bugging me off and on, that I'm missing 1 part of the resource. Prior to Faithlife/Logos upgrading the website, it would just show that one didn't own the resource, but now we are able to see why it says that. Smile

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Erwin Stull, Sr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2015 8:46 AM

da:

i believe you have the noteless version in your package as we have given it to logos.

Some do, and some do not have it. Logos has it on their website as 1 resource with 3 components. Due to not having the 3rd component (the Noteless), the resource is shown as "Not Owed", and there is no dynamic cost reduction. I know that you give the Noteless edition free to all (very much appreciated), but in Logos, it is not separated from the complete resource and not free. I have Faithlife Customer Service working on this now, Looking forward to the resolution.

Thanks

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Erwin Stull, Sr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2015 8:53 AM

John Goodman:

I think you have the noteless version but notes show in it because you also have the license for the notes... My guess is they are all listed on the page because the page is partly automated...

Hi John;

It's a separate component of the resource. Some have it, and some don't.

Thanks

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Erwin Stull, Sr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2015 9:04 AM

NK:

I also do not have the "noteless" version.  But with your visual filters you can create your own noteless version by unchecking the "footnote indicators" box.

Hi NK;

I'm aware that this can be done, but it would be nice to have the complete resource, and have the website show that it is owned. The 2 main components (that are for sale everywhere) most people have, but the free component that is freely given away is missing. I think it may have something to do with the change from Libronix and Logos, but I'm not sure. Waiting for an answer and resolution from Faithlife.

Thanks

Thanks

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2015 9:09 AM

Erwin Stull, Sr.:
Waiting for an answer and resolution from Faithlife.

Interesting. I am seeing the same thing as you. I do know that at one time there were some translations which showed up as unowned in the store despite having licenses. Perhaps this is a similar (or the cause of the) issue? 

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Erwin Stull, Sr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2015 9:11 AM

Once Faithlife responds with an answer and resolution, I will ask them to also respond this post also, that everyone may have an answer. Smile

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Erwin Stull, Sr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2015 9:18 AM

alabama24:

Erwin Stull, Sr.:
Waiting for an answer and resolution from Faithlife.

Interesting. I am seeing the same thing as you. I do know that at one time there were some translations which showed up as unowned in the store despite having licenses. Perhaps this is a similar (or the cause of the) issue? 

Hi Alabama24;

Hopefully Faithlife will respond soon. It's like a pebble in the shoe; not enough to caused great pain, but enough to cause discomfort. Smile

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2015 9:26 AM

John Goodman:

I think you have the noteless version but notes show in it because you also have the license for the notes... My guess is they are all listed on the page because the page is partly automated...

When this resource was created originally, it was helpful for have a noteless version so that you could have the Bible in one window and the notes in another window without (a) having to hover/click on footnotes, and (b) cluttering your Bible with footnote indicators.

Neither is necessary now as you have the page view that can show footnotes, and visual filters which can turn off the footnote indicators. So there's no longer any benefit from a noteless version which is presumably why it was removed from base packages.

People who bought older base packages (or the NET Bible as a separate product) will have all three resources. Others will only have the two that most useful today. Personally, I think it's a good think that base package owners aren't getting charged for something that's not terrible useful.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2015 9:59 AM

That is a reasonable explanation except that the price remains unchanged. 

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2015 10:17 AM

alabama24:

That is a reasonable explanation except that the price remains unchanged. 

There's no price set for the NET Bible with notes, because it's not available separately: https://www.logos.com/product/49033/the-net-bible-net-with-notes 

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Erwin Stull, Sr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2015 10:32 AM

Mark Barnes:

alabama24:

That is a reasonable explanation except that the price remains unchanged. 

There's no price set for the NET Bible with notes, because it's not available separately: https://www.logos.com/product/49033/the-net-bible-net-with-notes 

I just realized something. The NET Bible and the Notes are still included in the base packages, but the Noteless is not. I thought that the complete NET Bible was removed completely from the L6 base packages. Perhaps Faithlife will just release the Noteless resource to all, or just remove Noteless from the complete resource and packages. As has already been stated, with today's Logos system, it actually is no longer required, but it is still a bugging issue that the resource continues to display as not owned on the website.

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NK | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 15 2015 5:00 AM

Erwin Stull, Sr.:

Once Faithlife responds with an answer and resolution, I will ask them to also respond this post also, that everyone may have an answer. Smile

Awesome!

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