One of these days I want to do research and a study on the subjects Election, Free Will, and Quantum Physics.

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Rodney Phillips | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Oct 21 2015 11:49 AM


I know this topic may start a fire storm and I don’t mean for it to..  Or people may think I am crazy or dumb or a heretic, or all of the above.   I will admit I am just a laymen on all these subjects with a desire to learn more having always been kind of an outsider looking in on the whole debate of Election vs Free Will.


Being a Christian since age 11, I was raised to believe that one of the main reasons God created man and women was to serve, love and worship him.   BUT of their own free will..  Else what would be the point if we were all robots already predestined?  A very rough example of the way I think about it would be if you were a person of wealth (A problem I have never been blessed (Or cursed) with)  I would think you would sometimes wonder(question) if someone was being friends with you just because you were rich.  Or because they really love you as you are no matter your wealth.  I would think we all would want the latter.. And So would God.    I know this is not a good example but my point is I think God wants us to choose (Have the Free Will) to serve, worship and love him.  I wonder if Election and Free will both take place.   But which come’s firsts?   Or do they occur at the same time?


Now you’re probably asking where Quantum Physics comes into play here.   More and more we are being told (I am not yet sure if true or not) that time as we know and experience it is only an illusion.    And that the past, present, and the future all exists at the same time..   But as we know from scripture, God transcends both space and time.  He knew each of us before we were formed in the womb.


 I believe God sees the past, present and future all at the same time and thus He knew we would choose him by our own free well and thus elected us..    But Free Will was still a part of it.   I believe Abraham could have said no when God first told him to leave his land.  But God already knew he would say yes.


I know there are a lot of deep thinkers and those that know MUCH MUCH more then I on this subject so be kind to me.    After years of believing how I was raised on this issue, I am finally starting to have a desire to dig deeper into this topic for the first time in my life.. 


Also for the past 5 years or so, I have had a strong desire (I believe from God) to study and learn about Quantum Physics.   I know without a doubt there is a connection between Quantum Physics and God and that of course like everything He also created Quantum Physics.   I wish more deep Christina thinkers and Christian scientists would explore and research the Quantum Physics connection to all this.    I have a book, I have not gotten to yet, written by a Christion author called “Quantum Glory” that I will be reading soon..



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Lew Worthington | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 21 2015 11:55 AM

Quantum physics is one of my favorite topics. Do you have an interest in the math side of it?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 21 2015 12:12 PM


Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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Rodney Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 21 2015 12:54 PM

Sorry I did not realize I was not suppose to post stuff like this here..   Wont let it happen again(That's what I get for not reading the rules)  

Admin you can delete, lock or move this post if need be.. 

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