System folder and Smart Tags in v6.7

Dave Hooton
Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,343
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With a return to use of the System folder in the last beta Smart Tags registration appears to have gone backward as there is no Action in Word 2016. Can anyone use Smart Tags in 6.7 RC1 (probably in Word 2013 or earlier)?

Why the return to the System folder? Does it signify a change for Smart Tags to work in Office 2016?

Dave
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Windows 11 & Android 13

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  • Fred Chapman
    Fred Chapman Member Posts: 5,899 ✭✭✭

    Dave Hooton said:

    Can anyone use Smart Tags in 6.7 RC1 (probably in Word 2013 or earlier)?

    I am running Win 10 and Office 2013. It works fine for me.

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,343
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/776557#Comment_776557

    Thanks Fred.

    I manually registered the Smart Tag (dll) and it is fully functioning in Word 2016 i.e. it now has "Replace with Passage".

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,343

    Dave Hooton said:

    Why the return to the System folder? Does it signify a change for Smart Tags to work in Office 2016?

    Bump for Faithlife.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • SteveF
    SteveF Member Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭

    Dave Hooton said:

    Smart Tags in 6.7 RC1 (probably in Word 2013 or earlier)?

    I cannot get it to work in Word 2010, nor in Word 2013.

    ["Smart Tags" does not even show as an option when you do the right click menu and click on "Additional Actions/options" etc]

    I have tried the earlier suggestion to "repair."

    I was unable to successfully  successfully completed the Command prompt suggestion this time. [Previous 'broken" smart tags were repaired that way.]

    Thanks for working at a fix.

    p.s. [I do not think that this should make a difference, but] I am running the new 6.7 on the "stable" [channel] etc [ie I did not participate in the 6.7 beta version]

    [Edit] I was finally able to "register" the smart tag dll [it is now in the "system" drawer; Smart Tags are also a visible choice in the Additional Actions/options menu, BUT [with Word 2010 & or Word 2013 running] this feature does not work.

    I had assumed that if I could finally see that it was an option in Word that it would work.Sadly "no"

    I did close off all of these programs and re-boot [once] but that has not yet helped either. 

    What step did I miss? Suggestions?

     

    Regards, SteveF

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,845

    I have it working in Word 2016 under Win 10 after repairing my Logos installation. It did not appear until I did that.

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  • SteveF
    SteveF Member Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/777579#Comment_777579

    Well after getting the Smart Tag options to "appear" but not to work

    I again  "repaired"  Logos in the control panel.

    Bad move.

    Now Smart Tags are again "missing" from the right click menu in both Word 2010 & Word 2013.

    I have to assume that "repair" has "de-registered" the Smart tag. The dll is still visible in the System drawer.

    2 hours of frustrating work down the drain ...

    Regards, SteveF

  • David Grace
    David Grace Member Posts: 13 ✭✭

    Dave I lost my smart tags when I downloaded the 6.7! I get so frustrated with logos when they so call fix something and it takes away the best feature. I do not know really how to reinstall them if it can be done. please help

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,343
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/777599#Comment_777599

    All

    We have these registration steps for Smart Tags (32-bit Office) in 64-bit Logos/Verbum that were previously working:-

    1. “%LOCALAPPDATA%\Logos\Logos.exe” /register
    2. regsvr32 “%LOCALAPPDATA%\Logos\System\L4SmrtTg.dll”

    Note the \Logos\ folder could be \Logos4\, \Logos5\ or \Verbum\ for your installation.

    #2 is necessary. Please note the spelling of the dll and its location in the \Logos\System\ folder; a reversion to Logos 6.2 and earlier. If you have a custom installation then make sure the path to your Logos folder is correct.

    Perform these command(s) in a Command Prompt that is "run as administrator".

    If you have a problem please show the format of the command(s) you used e.g. a screen shot of the Command Prompt window.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • SteveF
    SteveF Member Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/777605#Comment_777605

    Thanks Dave:

    I'm still not sure how, but this finally worked for me.

    Word 2010 = yes smart tags visible and working

    Word 2013 = yes smart tags visible and working

    Thanks

    Regards, SteveF

  • David Grace
    David Grace Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/777717#Comment_777717

    Steve could you send what you did to get your smart tags back? I am not very computer smart so please give me common words. LOL

  • SteveF
    SteveF Member Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/777730#Comment_777730

    It is not for the faint of heart.

    It involves using the Windows "Command Prompt" utility in Administrator mode.

    Mine was made more difficult by the fact that my Logos installation is not in the usual "C" drawer.

    I typed in so many versions of the "code" that I am not really sure which was the final version.

    Re the first line of Dave's suggestion: It does not help that due to the way Logos installs that many of us now have different names on our particular Logos drawer. Even though I am running Logos 6.7 Logos has named my program drawer Logos 5. I had to substitute the actual path name in place of the %LOCALAPPDATA% etc." so at the prompt  I typed D:\Steve Laptop\Logos5\Logos.exe  and then when I hit enter it told me that it had "registered."  [ie that it now knew where the program was located].

    Dave's second line: that means you also have to get the name right. For example I had to add the number "5" as in Logos5\System etc.

    I believe that the point of this 2nd line is to make the Smart tag operative.    so for my installation at the cursor I had to type in 

    regsvr32 D:\Steve Laptop\Logos5\System\L4SmrtTg.dll

    The good news: If you type it in "wrong" it just gives you an error message. I've never "broken"something doing this.

    In one of the threads there is a link to similar instructions in the WIKI

    It was also important to have had the "correct" Smart Tag dll [as you are probably aware there are different ones for 32 bit Office [which I have] & 64 bit office. There is also a different one depending on whether your Windows is 32 or 64 bit [like mine]. 

     There are a number of decisions/factors to solve when the Logos programmers "break" this "un-supported" feature. 

     I realize that this is not very helpful.

    [Doing this from memory means that I still may have errors in those above lines]

    Regards, SteveF

  • Bryan Albert
    Bryan Albert Member, Logos Employee Posts: 45

    Concerning Smart Tags on Windows, please try the updated PowerShell script RegisterSmartTags.ps1 discussed at https://community.logos.com/forums/p/105737/780081.aspx#780081.

    Thanks,

    Bryan

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