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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Nov 15 2015 8:03 PM

How do I find which animals are mentioned in the Gospels?

Fr Devin Roza:

Today for one reason or another the topic came up at lunch of what types of animals are named in the Gospels. We had a good time trying to think of as many as we could. Afterwards, I thought I would try finding the answer with Verbum 6, and I must say, it was quite easy. Smile

Here are the steps:

1. In the Bible search tab, limit your search to the "Gospels". Then type "animal". From the dropdown, select the "sense" animal.

Run the search. This will search for the sense of "animal" and also all subsenses, which include all the specific animals! (BTW, if you want to search for ONLY the sense "animal" without the subsenses, you can do so adding the equals sign, <Sense = animal>).

Now is where it gets really good. What if I actually want a list of all the animals? Verbum 6 can do that very easily as well. Just select "Save as Word List" from the dropdown. 

Sort the list by "Gloss" if you like.

Note that apparently there is an error in the results! The results include "courtyard; palace", which is obviously not an animal!!

To figure out why this is the case, go back to your search panel, and switch over to the Analysis View. Then organize by Lemma and look for the corresponding lemma, αὐλή.

It is from John 10:1. If we look at the Reverse Interlinear data, we can see what is happening.

The whole phrase "dwelling of the sheep" is being translated with one word, "sheepfold", so that when we run the search on the English translation for <Sense animal>, all three Greek words are being returned.

It is easy to fix this, however, if you remember that all of the basic tagging is done on the Greek text of the SBLGNT. So, let's run the search over on the SBLGNT.

Notice that there are the same number of verse results, 152, but now we have 188 hits instead of 203. So, that means we have "shed" 15 false hits that were caused by the way the English translation translated the Greek words, as in the case of "sheepfold" translating "dwelling of the sheep". 

Now, rerun the Save as Word List. 

Now everything works correctly, with no false hits. You can then select Print/Export and export the list to Excel if you like. 

Now, admittedly, having a complete and accurate list of what animals appear in the Gospels is probably not too useful for most people! But hopefully the principles illustrated can be useful - how <Sense> searches can search subsenses, the ability to create Word lists from searches, and how the SBLGNT is your go-to text when you need to make sure the tagging is correct.


How do I find every time Jesus quoted the Old Testament?

Mark Barnes:
ot-quote:* WITHIN 0 WORDS words-of-christ:* ought to work, but it's far too slow.

Dave Hooton:

You were already searching WOC so you only need the term for OT Quotes:-

Forget the Passage List! Note that this search took as long as my original search above.

Dave Hooton:

You were already searching WOC so you only need the term for OT Quotes:-

Forget the Passage List! Note that this search took as long as my original search above.

How do I find the etymology ("root meaning") of proper noun?

John Fidel:

See if this does what you are trying to do.

Using Seth as an example:

Open BWS and type in Seth

Open Hebrew Words

Click on the ring and then run a BWS on the lemma as shown here:

Now from the new BWS on the hebrew word set, open the root section and the first item is the "root meaning".

Here is a screen shot:

Here is one for the hebrew root for Abel:

Lastly an ISBE article on Abel discussing the etymology:

When you run the BWS on Abel, you can open topics and search the dictionaries for this kind of information as well.

Hope this is close to what you are looking for.

John Fidel:

See if this does what you are trying to do.

Using Seth as an example:

Open BWS and type in Seth

Open Hebrew Words

Click on the ring and then run a BWS on the lemma as shown here:

Now from the new BWS on the hebrew word set, open the root section and the first item is the "root meaning".

Here is a screen shot:

Here is one for the hebrew root for Abel:

Lastly an ISBE article on Abel discussing the etymology:

When you run the BWS on Abel, you can open topics and search the dictionaries for this kind of information as well.

Hope this is close to what you are looking for.

Visual filters are on by default; how do I toggle them off?

Dave Hooton:

Click the filter in the Visual Filters menu of the resource and select "Do not show in any resource"

Added as independent tip: TIP - Setting up and using Floating Windows for extended study

How do I identify resources in the multiple resources view?

Mark Barnes:

On the resource menu, select "Show Locator Bar".

How do I mark a book, close it, and come back picking up where I left off?


Here are two ways to do what you want--bookmarks and favorites. Both are found in the Favorites panel found under Tools on the menu bar. The bookmarks are at the bottom of the Favorites panel.

To set a Bookmark, just use the key combination shown. I am on a Mac, if you are on Windows, it will be different, but you'll see that.

A Favorite is set by dragging the book/resource to the Favorites panel or by clicking the "Add" button or with the keyboard shortcut (either Command-D or Control-D).

EDIT: As you can see, I eschew Bookmarks and use Favorites. That's because Favorites are far more powerful, while Bookmarks are limited. You can find out more about Favorites here: https://wiki.logos.com/Favorites 

steve clark:

Integ has shown you how to use Favorites (and that is a good method).

There are several ways that you can bookmark a book in Logos.
Another way is to use the Bookmark Tool in Logos. See this wiki for steps: Bookmarks


Another way is a bit more complicated, but i find it useful in Bibles.

i study with several different groups and have a variety of places that i read in the Bible (or other books). So keeping track with all those quickly exhausts the Bookmark Tool's 9 entries. So i have made Highlighting markers that i use. i simply select text in the book where i want to place one of my highlights and then mark it with one of my marker highlights. This does require that i know the approximate location for that highlight marker within the book that i want to find my place in. This is usually not a problem, i.e. i remember that i was teaching my grandkids out of the book of Acts and then open my Bible to Acts and scroll until i find my marker (KIDS) where i last left off.


How do I find diagrams related to Tabernacle?

John Fidel:

I recommend a media search as follows:

Select the article and the resource opens with options to copy, paste, send etc.

Mark Smith:

One other way to do this search would be:

Each of us will get different results based on what we have in our Libraries.

Don't forget there is a Factbook entry for Tabernacle, as well.

How do I highlight a Greek or Hebrew word in an English Bible?

Dave Hooton:

Welcome Charles

The Libronix version of the NASB had a few unique features that have now been superseded in Logos 6, but I can't remember that! The nearest equivalent of that is the Corresponding Words visual filter. If set to show lemmas, it will highlight all other instances if you click a word in the NASB or any other reverse interlinear bible, like ESV. There are a couple of requirements:

  1. a suitable Logos 6 base package or Crossgrade (to get the reverse interlinear datasets); and
  2. a Logos Now subscription (to get the Corresponding Words feature)

Otherwise, we are talking about a lemma search which will highlight all occurrences of that lemma in the text:

Right click the word (e.g. "official"), then select the lemma, then Inline Search

The results will be highlighted in the NASB

If you can perform this Search, it won't cost you anything; else you will require at least a Crossgrade (which will give you a lot of essential features anyway).

Let us know how you go, and what base packages you have.

How can I learn to write a syntax search?

Dave Hooton:

The main thing is to select the appropriate Greek Syntax engine and follow the strategy of running a Bible/Morph Search to give you candidate results whose structure you can study/emulate in the Clause Visualization resources in order to provide a suitable syntax query. My preferences for Greek are

  1. Cascadia - its structure produces more compact/powerful queries; or
  2. OpenText - in some ways the simplest to use; and
  3. Lexham Syntactic - its grammatical elements are restricted and difficult to use

When utilising a candidate result for your query understand that all of its elements are not necessary as you can use "Matching skips levels" to provide a more generic query (to match other results). Use "Unordered" to allow for different order of elements.

How do I link to a specific post in a forum thread?

Mark Smith:

Click on the small page icon next to the poster's name. Then copy the reference that come up in your browser.

Another that get's its own entry: TIP of the day: Read the blog post on How to create a passage list from a ToC, plus some Add-Ons

How does MJ Smith use her tagging?

MJ. Smith:

My tagging system is partially for my own use and partially to run examples for answers in the forums.

  • MP is the Morris Proctor classification system
  • MB is the Mark Barnes classification system
  • In the cases where it is stated in have tagged the version preferred/used by a resource so I can check an argument against the translation actually used by the author.
  • I categorize resources by the canon they use (in broad terms) so that I can identify resources relevant to broader canon questions. This is particularly when I expand to the Ecumenical canon of the RSV/NRSV
  • Methodology is assigned more often to monographs than commentary series but it allows me to look at a passage from a particular perspective: literary, socio-rhetorical, form, structural ... my categories tend to be those with which the author self-identifies. I am disappointed that Logos does not provide a broader range e.g. the Wiley-Blackwell reception history series, 3rd world, post-modern, feminist, type-scene, reader-response ... I use Tate, W. Randolph. Handbook for Biblical Interpretation: An Essential Guide to Methods, Terms, and Concepts. Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Academic, 2012. as a check list of methods I want to explore.
  • I tag resources by the section in the Guide that they support, that they would support if/when they are tagged and should appear in should the section exist. "Guide section" is where they currently appear; "Guide collection" is what I use to create additional sections in my custom guides. 

Okay, I have a Guide called Comprehensive Passage Guide which has all the sections which can be driven off a passage reference. It is continually evolving as I get new resources, Logos gets additional resources tagged, or Logos adds new sections. I'll make multiple posts in this thread to explain how I fit all the pieces together.

1. I try to remember to close my CPG with all sections closed. That way it loads quickly and I can easily find the sections I wish to open without a ton of scrolling. I wish there were a collapse all option.

2. I generally give a higher level of attention to liturgy than your average Logos user because I see liturgy as the "natural environment" of Scripture ... not surprising since I also lean toward the definition of canon as "that which may be read as lessons in church services".

3. I generally give a higher level of attention to materials from the ACELO authors and presses than you average Logos user because these are the materials I am familiar enough with to not be concerned about misunderstanding the use of terms that have different meanings in different theological traditions. (ACELO = Anglican, Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Lutheran, Oriental Orthodox).

So the first major grouping of my MPG looks like this but with the addition of the Systematic Theology and Confessional Documents by Faithlife, it may get a bit of adjustment:


A. Liturgy - Faithlife supplied

B. Ancient Literature - Faithlife supplies

C. Collection: Rabbinic Literature with collection rule based on tagging which minimizes overlap with Ancient Literature.

D. Catholic Topical Index - Verbum supplies

E. Collection: Catholic resource indices with collection rule based on tagging to select the following resources. This has been extended to include other traditions as I have obtained relevant resources. Rule: author:("Roza, Devin", "Jurgens, W. A.", "Ott, Ludwig", "Anthony of Padua", "Denzinger, Henry", "Randolph, John") OR title:("Worship in the Early Church: An Anthology of Historical Sources", "The Faith of Catholics: Confirmed by Scripture and Attested by the Fathers") with two resources excluded as irrelevant.

F. Systematic Theologies - supplied with Logos/Verbum Now

I have the Logos-supplied list of resources by theological stream as tags that I can utilize to narrow this section as needed.

G. Confessional Documents - supplied with Logos/Verbum Now

I have the Logos-supplied list of resources by theological stream as tags that I can utilize to narrow this section as needed.

H. Collection: Creeds & Confessions with a rule based on manual tagging. This is not yet updated to reflect the new Faithlife supplied section but will be modified to minimize overlap. I have available to add, if needed, collections of commentary and homiletics related to Creeds and Confessions.

 I. Collection: Catechism - Verbum supplied

J. Collection: Other Catechisms with a rule based on manual tagging. This is not yet updated to reflect the new Faithlife supplied section but will be modified to minimize overlap.

K. Collection: Church Documents - Verbum supplied

L. (in theory) Collection: Other Church Documents with a rule based on manual tagging to minimize overlap.

M. Collection: Church Fathers - Verbum supplied

N. Collection: Author: Apostolic Fathers a subset of Church fathers defined by the rule title:(Didache, "Teachings of the Twelve Apostles", "Shepherd of Hermes", "2 Clement", "Epistle of Barnabas", "Apostolic Fathers") OR author:("Clement of Rome", "Ignatius of Antioch", Papias, "Polycarp of Smyrna")

O. Collection: Author: Doctors across all ACELO Churches i.e. the sum of these rules:

Author: Doctors (Notables) of the Eastern Orthodox Church: author:=("Basil of Caesarea", "Gregory Nazianzen", "John Chrysostom", "Nicodemus the Hagiorite", "Palamas, Gregory", "Photios I of Constantinople", "Symeon the New Theologian")

Author: Doctors (Teachers of the Faith) of the Anglican Church: author:=("Ambrose of Milan",  "Anselm of Canterbury", "Athanasius of Alexandria", "Augustine of Hippo", "Basil of Caesarea", "Bernard of Clairvaux", Bonaventure, "Catherine of Siena", "Cyril of Alexandria", "Cyril of Jerusalem", "Ephrem the Syrian", "Francis de Sales", "Gregory Nazianzen", "Gregory of Nyssa", "Gregory the Great", "Hooker, Richard", "Irenaeus of Rome", Jerome, "John Chrysostom", "John Damascene", "John of the Cross","Leo the Great", Macrina, "Maurice, Frederick Denison", "Sergei of Radonezh", "Sundar Singh of India", "Taylor, Jeremy","Temple, William", "Teresa of Avila","Thomas Aquinas", "Westcott, Brooke Foss", "William of Ockham")

Author: Doctors (Vardapet) of the Armenian Church: author:=("Athanasius of Alexandria", "Basil of Caesarea", "Cyril of Alexandria", "Cyril of Jerusalem",  "David the philosopher", "Dionysius the Areopagite", "Eliseus the historiographer", "Ephrem the Syrian", "Epiphanius of Salamis", "Gregory of Narek", "Gregory Nazianzen", "Gregory of Nyssa","Hierotheus the Thesmothete",  "John Chrysostom,", Mesrob, "Moses of Chorene",  "Nerses III the builder", "Nerses of Lambron", "Sylvester I")

Author: Doctors of the Assyrian Church of the East: author:=(Eliseus, "Diodore of Tarsus", "Theodore of Mopsuestia", Nestorius)

Author: Doctors of the Chaldean Catholic Church: author:=("Alexander of Jerusalem",  "Athanasius of Alexandria", "Basil of Caesarea",  "Cyril of Alexandria", "Ephrem the Syrian", "Eustathius of Antioch", "Fravitta of Constantinople", "Gregory Nazianzen", "Gregory of Nyssa", "Isaac of Armenia", "Isaac of Ninevah", "Jacob of Nisibis", "Jacob of Serugh", "John Chrysostom,",  Maruthas, Meletius, "Polycarp of Smyrna")

Author: Doctors of the Latin Catholic Church: official: author:=("Albert the Great", "de Liguori, Alphonsus",  "Ambrose of Milan", "Anselm of Canterbury", "Anthony of Padua", "Athanasius of Alexandria", "Augustine of Hippo", "Basil of Caesarea", "Bede", "Bernard of Clairvaux", Bonaventure, "Catherine of Siena", "Cyril of Alexandria", "Cyril of Jerusalem", "Ephrem the Syrian", "Francis de Sales", "Gregory the Great", "Gregory Nazianzen", "Hilary of Poitiers", "Hildegard of Bingen", "Isidore of Seville", Jerome, "John Chrysostom", "John Damascene", "John of Ávila", "John of the Cross", "Lawrence of Brindisi", "Leo the Great", "Canisius, Peter", "Chrysologus, Peter", "Damian, Peter", "Bellarmine, Robert", "Teresa of Avila", "Therese of Lisieux", "Thomas Aquinas") ANDNOT author:(Scrivener, "G. Jerome Albrecht", "Jerome F. D. Creach", "Jerome H. Neyrey", "Jerome Quinn", "Jerome H. Smith")

Author: Doctors of the Latin Catholic Church: supplemental: author:=("Fulgentius of Cartagena", "Ildephonsus of Toledo", "Leander of Seville", "Maximus the Confessor")

Author: Doctors of the Syro Malabar Catholic Church: author:=("Ambrose of Milan",  "Athanasius of Alexandria", "Augustine of Hippo", "Basil of Caesarea", "Cyril of Alexandria", "Cyril of Jerusalem", "Ephrem the Syrian", "Epiphanius of Salamis", "Gregory the Great", "Gregory Nazianzen", "Gregory of Nyssa", "Isaac the Elder", "Jerome", "John Chrysostom", "John Damascene", "Leo the Great") ANDNOT author:("Albrecht, G. Jerome","Neyrey, Jerome", "Quinn, Jerome", "Smith, Jerome")

P. Textual Variants - Faithlife supplies

Q. Compare Version - Faithlife supplies. I try to have my Bible include the major textual traditions i.e. Masoretic, Septuagint, Peshitta, Vulgate

So this group while not focused on commentaries includes commentaries from the early church and from the influential authors of the church. Those commentaries are situated in the liturgy, theology and documents of the traditions from which the commentaries come.

Block 2 of my Comprehensive Passage Guide is the least related to your questions but for completeness and to present my approach consistently, I include it.

R. Outlines - Faithlife supplied but incomplete; I would like this to have a link to the Interactive Outline Browser.

S. Collection: Outline. This is a manually maintained list of the resources with the outlines I find most useful which are not yet encoded by Faithlife to appear in their Outline section.

T. Parallel Passages - Faithlife supplied plus some Personal Books which are included in the section by default based on resource type.

U. Cross-References - Faithlife supplied. For a long period there was a personal collection following this until Dave H., Mark B. and myself identified precisely why the Logos section was incomplete. Then I could drop my collection. But use it as a lesson that Logos will respond when you can make a compelling and precise argument.

V. Collection: Bible topics and lists. This is the sum of 3 manually maintained lists whose content would otherwise be missed in the Passage Guide. Note here there is overlap with resources in the first block - but here I am looking at them from a different perspective.

Guide collection: lists

Guide collection: topics

Guide collection: Bible: topics and lists add the following to the above 2 lists: type:"Bible Concordance", title:("The Thematic Bible") which leaves me with something like:

W.  Literary Typing - Faithlife supplied ... I want to supplement this via labels or tagging. I often have a collection for Figures of Speech added here but have currently removed it for revision.

X. Collection: Types - here I use my tagging directly rather than creating a collection. I wish Faithlife provided some of these categories as pre-defined collections in order to make it easier for novices to use their entire library. They are moving it that direction but there is some low-hanging fruit left undone. [Yes. I noticed my tagging error but did not take a corrected screen shot.]

Y. Topics - Faithlife supplied

Z. Interesting Words - Faithlife supplied

AA. Biblical Events- Faithlife supplied

AB. Biblical People- Faithlife supplied

AC. Biblical Places- Faithlife supplied

AD. Atlas- Faithlife supplied

AE, Biblical Things- Faithlife supplied

AF. Cultural Concepts- Faithlife supplied

Now a shift to the linguistic side.

AG. Grammars - Faithlife supplied

AH. Grammatical Constructions- Faithlife supplied

AI. Apparatuses- Faithlife supplied

AJ. Visualizations- Faithlife supplied

AK. Word by Word- Faithlife supplied

AL. Lemma - added in this current beta cycle

The third block deals with commentaries and monographs divided into Commentaries and Collections sections. There is a great deal of overlap because I open sections selectively. This is also the area in which I should put in some effort to get my collections to be up to date - with their source or with my own purchases.

Group A:

This section includes:

  • a section for Calendar devotionals and devotionals, especially from Vyrso, which are not structured as calendar devotionals whether or not they are dated.
  • two sections of commentaries based on lectionaries - one for true commentaries, the other a collection for those not structured as commentaries
  • four sections that I extract from the Faithlife group on denominational and theological tags - I only use Catholic, Orthodox, Anglican and Lutheran but am considering adding Wesleyan and Restorationist

Group B:

This is my implementation of Nark Barnes' classification - I find his historical period collections especially useful.

Group C:

This is my implementation of the Morris Proctor classification. I use it primarily for examples in the forums.

Group D

This section includes several elements:

  • my implementation of my classification by methodology which only claims to be "complete" in terms of my resources at the time I did a detailed study of a particular passage
  • Sermons which in divided into the Faithlife supplied section and a collection for everything not yet coded as sermons whether my Logos or by myself. Faithlife still needs to put some serious effort into coding ancient and medieval sermons. There is a third section for resources from which to build sermons. The whole handling of sermons needs adjustments to handle liturgical dates more explicitly for me to be happy.
  • the beta has a Personal Letters section which I would add after Sermons
  • Journals as supplied by Faithlife. I no longer need a collection of uncoded journals.
  • Courses as supplied by Faithlife

I spend much of my commentary time in denominational or methodological collections because I tend to read looking for the answer to a particular question rather than looking at everything said about the passage.

The final block differs between Logos and Verbum and is a source of annoyance at data lost sync across the two applications.

This section represents for me the "end product" of Bible study that is not simply for personal faith formation/spiritual growth i.e. it is oriented towards Bible studies, sermons, presentations, worship planning ...

  • My Content is supplied by Faithlife ... I wish the Sentence Diagrams could be placed near Visualizations above. that Passage Lists could be placed near the Lists section in the first block ... but there are no such controls.
  • Handout is supplied by Faithlife ... I join with those who don't want this feature forgotten
  • Bible study guides which I divide into 4 groups: Catholic, those tied to the Revised Common Lectionary, those tied to the International Standard Sunday School Lessons, and everything else
  • Music is supplied by Faithlife; I supplement that with a collection of hymn texts (manually tagged) ... Bob has hinted over the last two or three years that he intends to expand the functionality here so I am in waiting mode rather than adding labels to improve the quality of the results
  • Media Resources is supplied by Faithlife
  • Media Collections is supplied by Faithlife
  • Theme is supplied by Faithlife
  • Thematic Outlines is supplied by Faithlife
  • GracewayMedia.com; SermonAudio.com; SermonCentral.com; Sermons.Logos.com would appear here but they are stripped when I open in Verbum although I added them in Logos. I find this very annoying but haven't convinced anyone that it is a serious bug.

I do maintain a collection that is my entire library with all resources that would appear in the CPG removed ... I check the remainder to verify that I'm succeeding at putting the maximum possible portion of my library at my fingertips.

Another tip being put directly in the reading list: TIP - Focus Find & Follow & TIP - Find Focus Follow Pt 2 gateways to your library simple examples

Another tip going directly to the reading list: Forum Tip: hyperlinking to another reply in your reply


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Rodney Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 16 2015 6:24 PM

Great Tips.. Thank you for posting these..

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