Ancient Christian Writers and Fathers of the Church Series Comparison
Can someone provide some analysis on the comparison between the following resource sets from Paulist Press and CUA? I'm interested in knowing the strengths/weaknesses and content differences.
Ancient Christian Writers Paulist Press
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I would also be very interested in a comparison.
"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley0 -
I realize now why this is difficult to respond to. Waiting for some replies I tried to do a cursory compare from information on the respective product pages into an Excel spreadsheet. ... not so easy. Here is what I came up with for the subsets for works by Augustine.
It would appear from this very limited analysis that:
- FOC, having more volumes, has more content
- there is some alignment between FOC and AWC
- There appear to be 3 volumes/content that are in ACW not in FOC
Is this a helpful exercise?
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Not an "expert" but from using more than a few volumes in print, I would say that the chief difference is in the introductions and notes in ACW, which are far more extensive.
See https://community.logos.com/forums/p/83069/582521.aspx where this topic came up earlier and I included a PB sample from a volume of ACW.
The Gospel is not ... a "new law," on the contrary, ... a "new life." - William Julius Mann
L8 Anglican, Lutheran and Orthodox Silver, Reformed Starter, Academic Essentials
L7 Lutheran Gold, Anglican Bronze
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Against the Academics is in Fathers of the Church as Answer to Skeptics. However, Fathers of the Church does not contain the First Catechetical Instruction. Otherwise, I think your analysis is correct.
Here's a list I put together (somewhat quickly, so there may be mistakes) of titles in ACW that are not contained in FOC (or not contained in their entirety).
Athenagoras: Embassy for the Christians, The Resurrection of the Dead
Origen: Homilies 1–14 on Ezekiel
Origen: Prayer, Exhortation to Martyrdom
Origen: The Song of Songs, Commentary and Homilies
Origen: Treatise on the Passover and Dialogue with Heraclides
Tertullian: The Treatise against Hermogenes
Tertullian: Treatises on Marriage and Remarriage: To His Wife, An Exhortation to Chastity, Monogamy
St. Methodius: The Symposium: A Treatise on Chastity
Arnobius of Sicca: The Case against the Pagans, vol. 1
Arnobius of Sicca: The Case against the Pagans, vol. 2
Evagrius Ponticus: Ad Monachos
St. Gregory of Nyssa: The Lord's Prayer, The Beatitudes
St. John Chrysostom: Baptismal Instruction
Egeria: Diary of a Pilgrimage
Firmicus Maternus: The Error of the Pagan Religions
St. Augustine on the Psalms, vol. 1
St. Augustine on the Psalms, vol. 2
St. Augustine: The First Catechetical Instruction
Palladius: Dialogue on the Life of St. John Chrysostom
Palladius: The Lausiac History
Theodoret of Cyrus: A Cure for Pagan Maladies
Theodoret of Cyrus: On Divine Providence
John Cassian: THe Conferences
Letters of St. Jerome, vol. 1
Quodvultdeus of Carthage: The Creedal Homilies
Rufinus: A Commentary on the Apostles' Creed
Sermons of St. Maximus of Turin
St. Jerome: Commentary on Ecclesiastes
St. Jerome-Origen: Commentary on Isaiah, Origen Homilies 1–9 on Isaiah
St. Prosper of Aquitaine: Defense of St. Augustine
St. Prosper of Aquitaine: The Call of All Nations
The Works of St. Patrick: St. Secundinus: The Hymn on St. Patrick
Letters of St. Paulinus of Nola, vol. 1
Letters of St. Paulinus of Nola, vol. 2
The Poems of St. Paulinus of Nola
Cassiodorus: Explanation of the Psalms, vol. 1
Cassiodorus: Explanation of the Psalms, vol. 2
Cassiodorus: Explanation of the Psalms, vol. 3
Julianus Pomerius: The Contemplative Life
St. Maximus the Confessor: The Ascetic Life, The Four Centuries on Charity
Isidore of Seville: De Ecclesiasticis Officiis
St. Gregory the Great, Pastoral Care
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Thanks for the link to the previous post, Ken. I had forgotten about that discussion.
Thank you, Louis for that list. I'm going to save that off for future reference.
Would it be possible to get a list of the FOC volumes not in ACW?
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Well, most of FOC is not in ACW. It would be simpler to list the volumes of FOC that overlap with ACW:
The Apostolic Fathers
Saint Justin Martyr: The First Apology, The Second Apology, Dialogue with Trypho, Exhortation to the Greeks, Discourse to the Greeks, The Monarchy of the Rule of God (Partial)
Tertullian; Minucius Felix: Apologetical Works; Octavius (Partial)
Saint Cyprian: Treatises (Partial)
Saint Cyprian: Letters, (1-81)
Pontius: Early Christian Biographies (Partial)
Saint Augustine: Christian Instruction; Admonition and Grace; The Christian Combat; Faith, Hope and Charity (Partial)
Saint Augustine: The Immortality of the Soul; The Magnitude of the Soul; On Music; The Advantage of Believing; On Faith in Things Unseen (Partial)
Saint Augustine: The Happy Life; Answer to Skeptics; Divine Providence and the Problem of Evil, Soliloquies (Partial)
Saint Augustine: Commentary on the Lord's Sermon on the Mount with Seventeen Related Sermons (Partial)
Saint Augustine: Treatises on Marriage and Other Subjects: The Good Marriage, Adulterous Marriage, Holy Virginity, Faith and Works, The Creed, Faith and the Creed, The Care to be Taken for the Dead, In Answer to the Jews, The Divination of Demons (Partial)
Saint Augustine: Sermons on the Liturgical Seasons (Partial)
Saint Augustine: The Teacher; The Free Choice of the Will; Grace and Free Will (Partial)
Saint Augustine: On Genesis: Two Books on Genesis Against the Manichees ; And, On the Literal Interpretation of Genesis, an Unfinished Book (Partial)Also, on closer examination I found that I left off a few titles that are unique to ACW in the list above:
St. Irenaeus of Lyons: Against the Heresies, Book 2
St. Irenaeus of Lyons: Against the Heresies, Book 3
St. Irenaeus of Lyons: Against the Heresies, Book 1
Tertullian: Treatises on Penance: On Penitence and On PurityAgain, these are quick and dirty lists, so they may contain mistakes. Also, they don't break down where there's partial overlap in volumes that contain more than one work (more of a problem in FOC than ACW, which doesn't combine works into single volumes as often as FOC).
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Caveats noted ... This is very helpful. It's been a challenge to sort out the various offerings and individual works in Logos/Verbum regarding the Church Fathers.
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