Biblia Hebraica transcripta (BHt, aka "Richter Morphology"): Pending Release

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Fr Devin Roza | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 31 2016 11:50 PM

David Knoll:

Fr Devin Roza:

David Knoll:

You should warn the users that there is NO (!) relation between the text you provide in Hebrew characters and the "transliterated" BHt. Richter reconstructs BH vocalization and does not follow the Tiberian Masoretic vocalization. This is one of the main advantages of this project.  

David, et al.,

Do any of you by chance have a key to the transcription scheme that Richter follows that you would be willing to upload to this forum thread? I can't seem to find one in the resource guide, and have so far been unable to locate one online either. 

There you go. I suggest you also have a look at the full introduction which is only 10 pages long.

7506.Biblia Hebraica transcripta Zeichen-Inventar aus Genesis EOS Verlag St Ottilien 1991.pdf

Thanks a lot, David. Very helpful. 

P.S. Suggestion for Faithlife - it would be great to include this 3 page key in the resource, ideally translating it into English, but if that is not feasible, at least in the original. 

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David Knoll | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 1 2016 11:54 AM

Veli Voipio:

David Knoll:
have a look at the full introduction which is only 10 pages long.

I may have missed something, I could not find exactly that in my files, Logos, or any link to that info - although I've found some other info in all those.

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BKMitchell | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 7 2016 6:17 AM

Rick Brannan (Faithlife):

Back when we released Logos 4 (that's way back), a license for something called the "Richter Morphology" was included but, though a series of circumstances, was never released. This item has since become known as the Biblia Hebraica transcripta (BHt). 

We plan on releasing BHt today (Monday, Jan. 25, 2016). If you have a license, it should just automatically update.

This is very nice surprise!Big Smile I have been waiting for this and I might have inquired/nagged faithlife staff about this project once or twiceAngel?

Rick Brannan (Faithlife):
Thanks, all. Looking forward to seeing how this new and unique resource gets used.

That, sounds like a great topic for a new thread

חַפְּשׂוּ בַּתּוֹרָה הֵיטֵב וְאַל תִּסְתַּמְּכוּ עַל דְּבָרַי

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Veli Voipio | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 26 2016 11:09 AM

David Knoll:

Veli Voipio:

David Knoll:
have a look at the full introduction which is only 10 pages long.

I may have missed something, I could not find exactly that in my files, Logos, or any link to that info - although I've found some other info in all those.

Copyright.

It took over almost a month, but today I received the http://eos-verlag.de/de_DE/transliteration-und-transkription/ , it was 20 euros and 150 pages in A5 size, in beatiful IBM Selectric font from 1983.

It is in German language. I had German in school 50 years ago and have not used it much since. But I'll give the book a try, I'll expect it will be worth it. Currently it looks I can read 2 pages a day.Sad

(Long time ago I saw a book from the 19th century teaching the elements of Arabic where the professor wrote something like this "keine Dummköpfer sollten Arabisch lernen". It may apply to Hebrew, too, but I'll just ignore that!)

Below is my newest setup on two screens, any feedback?

Gold package, and original language material and ancient text material, SIL and UBS books, discourse Hebrew OT and Greek NT. PC with Windows 8.1

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Veli Voipio | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 1 2016 8:07 AM

Well, after starting to read the http://eos-verlag.de/de_DE/transliteration-und-transkription/ what I can decipher the BHt is NOT a transliteration but it is a transscription. It means that the text is modified and streamlined so that they can run computer analyses.

Transliteration is often seen as an aid for dummies, but the transcription here is part of the analysis. Thus those who don't like transliteration can use this transcription with good conscience and preserve their self-respect Smile

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 1 2016 8:22 AM

In the best of all analytic worlds, stripping down to whatever serves as most original (basically run-on consenants, unbroken) serves best.

It sounds unintuitive, but computers can derive the pattern without background knowledge, except in singles instances, and even provide best-guess substitutions.

Appreciate your exploration of the german book. More observations?


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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 1 2016 11:35 AM

Rick Brannan (Faithlife):

Syntax Database not included: When the BHt was initially included in a Logos license (back when Logos 4 was released), the license indicated it would also contain a searchable syntax database and a set of syntax graphs (clause visualizations). The group responsible for BHt has not completed this work, and we do not plan on pursuing the project further until that work is completed, documented, and delivered by the provider. There is no time frame on this, and I can't even say that it will ever get done. We will evaluate it if and when we receive complete data and documentation.

Unfortunately this was the one feature I was looking forward to. It would be great if the work could resume and be completed some time later.

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Steve Maling | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 1 2016 12:01 PM

I'm with Lee. It was the clause visualizations I was after, also.

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