Shipping today: NLT Old Testment Reverse Interlinear

Have you once or twice wondered why the NLT has a reverse interlinear for the New Testament, but not for the Old Testament? Do you even happen to have a license to the New Living Translation (NLT) reverse interlinears?

For everyone who has been practicing the spiritual fruits of patience and perseverance, you'll be thrilled to hear that the English-Hebrew alignment of the NLT OT is shipping today! We realize this has been a long time coming, and we are so excited to unveil it to the Logos/Faithlife world.

As it happens, the original alignment files were lost in the annals of time, only to be recovered in the last year (not unlike an Indiana Jones movie!) and converted to work in Logos 6. So, with just a bit of that ole Logos magic, the NLT now has interlinear data covering the entire canon.

Hope you enjoy this as much as we do!

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Rick Brannan (Logos)

For clarification: In Logos 4 and some other subsequent packages, a license for the NLT OT Reverse Interlinear was included. Folks who have had the license should now have the OT Reverse Interlinear data available.

So, for y'all who have been patiently waiting (as Isaiah rightly notes, thank you), you should now (or soon after downloading) have access to the entire reverse interlinear for the NLT.

(PS: MJ, "entire canon" == "protestant 66-book canon" in this context)

P A

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808452#Comment_808452

Thanks!

Are there any more interlinears planned?

P A

Kristine Lewis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808452#Comment_808452

My NLT updated today, but I do not have the OT Reverse Interlinear. Perhaps because I obtained the NLT on a Nelson CD, and didn't purchase Logos base packages until Logos 5 Reformed Starter and 6 Bronze, never having purchased a Logos 4 base package? My NLT resource info mentions only the 2009 English-Greek Reverse Interlinear New Testament New Living Translation. It would be nice to have the OT Reverse Interlinear, just asking.

Edit: It was the Logos 6 Feature Crossgrade purchased Jan 2015 that added the NLT NT English-Greek Reverse Interlinear to my NLT.

P A

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808466#Comment_808466

hmm

Try restarting Logos

P A

Dan Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808466#Comment_808466

I am very happy to hear this... The NLT use to be my favourite evangelical translation before NIV 2011 was released and I am delighted that the RI has finally been finished. HIP HIP HORAY!!!! Thank you Faithlife.

[<:o)]

-Dan

Erwin Stull, Sr.

Well, I'm not sure if I had it in a L4 package or not, but I'm going to say "Yay" anyway, because I am sure that I will come across the need for it some day, and if only the NT was available, would have the question of "Hmmm, what happened to the OT interlinear?" Thanks Faithlife [:)]

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808474#Comment_808474

I haven't had time to get to my computer and login but I would assume this would come with a Logos 6 Base package or would it need to be bought separately? I looked at the packages earlier today and I only saw the English-Greek NLT interlinear mentioned

Rick Brannan (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808494#Comment_808494

I haven't had time to get to my computer and login but I would assume this would come with a Logos 6 Base package or would it need to be bought separately?

I do not know the exact packages in which the NLT OT Reverse Interlinear was originally included. It was included with several (most?) Logos 4 packages; in the Logos 5 timeframe the NLT OT License was removed from configurations (not from those already licensed) because we didn't know if we would ever be able to finish it. So users who originally got it in that Logos 4-early Logos 5 time frame (and there are a significant amount) still have the license, and they should receive an update with the necessary resources. I do not believe it was included in Logos 6 packages, but I cannot confirm that (I'm on the data side, not product/marketing side).

The license to the NLT OT Reverse Interlinear is also (as of 6.10) included in Logos Now and Verbum Now.

As part of the process to include the NLT OT Reverse Interlinear in Logos Bible Software, the NLT NT Reverse Interlinear and the NLT itself were rebuilt, which will also be delivered for those who have these licenses.

Hope it helps.

Kendall Sholtess

This is exactly what I asked for a few months ago! Thanks a lot! I am so overjoyed. I know you guys really care about your customers. And I especially want to thank Bob for spinning the wheel a bit on this.

I have to say that thought I can read Greek, I really like the NLT, simply because I don't want my English to be Greeklish! I mean, I want my English to be English. Yeah, there are interpretive decisions, but for the most part I am cool with them. The functional equivalent translations are definitely harder to line up with the Greek text, so I really commend the team on being able to do it!

It will be so cool to see how the translators rendered things, and very informative for a little Greek like me. I am looking forward to doing some searches on the new OT interlinear, the whole Bible, etc. Again, thanks!

By the way, people always say that if you know Greek, you will accept nothing other than a very literal translation like the NASB or KJV or even (a little more functional ones) like the ESV. But I contend that if you really know Greek, you would read it in Greek, and skip the whole bit about translations altogether.

Kenute P. Curry

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808506#Comment_808506

I already have the NLT, so I restarted my LOGOS BIBLE SOFTWARE Rick Brannan (Faithlife) and got the Application Update, but did not get the Reverse Interlinear for NLT (Neither OT or NT).

I have Logos 6 Gold.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808544#Comment_808544

One can own the NLT without owning the license to the RI which was a Logos 4/early5 item.

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808549#Comment_808549

Much appreciated. Thanks Faithlife!

Kenute P. Curry

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808556#Comment_808556

Yes, well I do know that MJ. Smith So is that what has happened with me?

Am just trying to understand all of this?

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808559#Comment_808559

Kenute, did you own a Logos 4 base package? Rick said it was not included in later Logos 5 or Logos 6.

Kristine Lewis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808544#Comment_808544

The NLT (New Living Translation) Greek-English Reverse Interlinear is included in the Logos Gold packages that I looked at, Standard, Reformed and Baptist.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808576#Comment_808576

The NLT (New Living Translation) Greek-English Reverse Interlinear is included in the Logos Gold packages that I looked at, Standard, Reformed and Baptist.

But you are asking if the Hebrew-English Reverse Interlinear is included which from Rick's statement I assumed it was not ... but I have not checked.

Kristine Lewis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808578#Comment_808578

I am resigned to the fact that I do not own the license to the Hebrew-English OT Reverse Interlinear for NLT.

But Kenute said he does not have the Greek-English NT Reverse Interlinear for NLT, owning a Logos 6 Gold package. He should have the Greek-English Reverse Interlinear for NLT as far as I can see, looking at the contents of the Logos 6 Gold base packages for Standard, Reformed and Baptist. I did not check the other base packages.

Rick Brannan (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808581#Comment_808581

Regarding licenses: I'd say generally, if you have a question, get in contact with customer service (see: https://www.logos.com/contact) . They can look up your record and confirm what is and what is not licensed to your account.

Kenute P. Curry

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808583#Comment_808583

Well, I have checked the LOGOS 6 GOLD, and it says that I should own the NLT English-Greek Reverse Interlinear.

UPDATE: I do have the New Testament, but not the Old Testament.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808588#Comment_808588

Well, I have checked the LOGOS 6 GOLD, and it says that I should own the NLT English-Greek Reverse Interlinear.

UPDATE: I do have the New Testament, but not the Old Testament.

Then you have what is expected. To gain access to the OT RI would require an L4 base package OR a Logos Now subscription (the later obviously a "rental" of the RI).

KJ Niblett

Thanks Logos, my top prioritized NLT now has Hebrew beneath the surface. Appreaciate it

After I restarted Logos (I was in offline mode) and updated and then restarted it was working perfectly.

Kenute P. Curry

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808590#Comment_808590

I understand what you are saying alabama24, but that sounds really weird and out of character to me; since every other translation that I have has been automatically updated with RI, such as the RSV and the NRSV.

I do not think that it is fair for people who have a LOGOS 4 BASE PACKAGE or LOGOS NOW SUBSCRIPTION to have access to the NLT RI of the OLD TESTAMENT; when we already have the NEW TESTAMENT.

Should we not have the NLT RI of the OLD TESTAMENT as well ???

Ken McGuire

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808594#Comment_808594

I do not think that it is fair for people who have a LOGOS 4 BASE PACKAGE or LOGOS NOW SUBSCRIPTION to have access to the NLT RI of the OLD TESTAMENT; when we already have the NEW TESTAMENT.

Logos has a history of including a fair number of RI's in base packages when the packages are updated. I am getting the feeling that there will be some updated packages in this calendar year. For whatever reasons, when Logos 4 came out in 2009, it came with a few expected resources that would be forthcoming. One of them was the Richter Morphology which came out a few months ago. Another was RI's for NLT and NIV. I fail to see how it is unfair to give this new RI to people who were promised it over six years ago now and also to people who pay extra for the newest stuff right now. Instead it sounds like Faithlife is delivering on a promise they made a long time ago - one they were not sure they would be able to keep.

If you are not one of those customers, you have the choice of waiting and seeing what the future brings, or paying a modest subscription to get it now. I for one had to pay a bit to get the "new" NIV RI's, even though I had a license to the RI's for the "old" NIV - the Old Testament of which has never been finished, and my understanding cannot be finished due to NIV rules...

By the way, when RI's came out in Libronix 3, they were for ESV OT and NT, and NRSV NT only. To get the NRSV OT RI, we had to get it in a Logos 4 package. I really didn't mind, since I recognized that creating this was a LOT of work.

And yeah, if Logos were to say that all who had a license to the NT RI got the OT RI, that would be fine too. Lord knows I have taken advantage of many such things from Logos in the past. The Vyrso books updated to full Logos books comes to mind...

Schumitinu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808583#Comment_808583

Regarding licenses: I'd say generally, if you have a question, get in contact with customer service (see: https://www.logos.com/contact) . They can look up your record and confirm what is and what is not licensed to your account.

Maybe it would be easier to post the date here when the license was pulled. We then all can look at the date we purchased L5 for example to see whether or not the license was included. In case we have purchased it before the license was pulled but didn't get the update today, we then can inform customer service.

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808603#Comment_808603

Maybe it would be easier to post the date here when the license was pulled.

Wayback has Logos 4 Base Package comparison snapshot on 19 Jul 2012 with NLT English–Hebrew Reverse Interlinear^{1 (License included with purchase. Files coming soon.)}

Wayback snapshot on 5 Nov 2012 at 6 am with Logos 5 Base Package comparison (~4 days after Logos 5.0 release) does not have any Reverse Interlinear for NLT.

Thankful for NLT Old Testament Reverse Interlinear release so Logos 4 Base Package order in Dec 2009 with files coming "soon" now has file fulfillment (with "soon" turning out to be ~6.25 years).

Keep Smiling [:)]

Dan Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808607#Comment_808607

[O]

In the grand scheme of things 6.5 years is pretty soon. Heck Christ is returning soon and he has been away bodily for over 2000 years. So it was a really quick soon.

dan

Kenute P. Curry

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808612#Comment_808612

Thank you Ken McGuire for clearing up all of the issues that I had concerning the NLT RI OT. Am very happy for those who have been waiting so long for this. Once again, thank you. [:D]

Robert M. Warren

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808607#Comment_808607

It downloaded for me last night, so it must have been part of the L4 Bible Study pkg, which was either the lowest or next to lowest pkg.

Schumitinu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808607#Comment_808607

NLT English–Hebrew Reverse Interlinear^{1 (License included with purchase. Files coming soon.)}

It is just that I remember reading this when I purchased L5 on 13 Nov 2012. And I remember waiting for it, but forgot about it since then.

mab

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808823#Comment_808823

I was delighted to find this downloading. Anything that makes OL more accessible is always welcome.

Virgil Buttram

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808846#Comment_808846

Now I am curious as to why this is no longer sold. [:)]

Rick Brannan (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/808895#Comment_808895

Now I am curious as to why this is no longer sold.

It was removed from collections because we didn't know if we would ever be able to produce it. Now that it is available, it is included for Logos Now subscribers.