Can't get Psa 31.9-16 to point to the correct reference after typing in notes

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Scott Groethe | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Mar 16 2016 4:19 PM

If I type Psa 31 and add a space then click on it, it brings me to the top of the psalm including superscription as expected.

Type Psa 31.1 and it goes to 1

Type Psa 31.9 and it goes to 9

Type Psa 31.9-16 (as in today's reading for the daily RCL) and it goes to 32.9

I've reproduced it twice and don't understand the problem

Using windows 10, Logos 6.10 SR-2 with NLT as default Bible

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 16 2016 4:23 PM

Scott Groethe:

If I type Psa 36 and add a space then click on it, it brings me to the top of the psalm including superscription as expected.

Type Psa 36.1 and it goes to 1

Type Psa 36.9 and it goes to 9

Type Psa 36.9-16 (as in today's reading for the daily RCL) and it goes to 32.9

I've reproduced it twice and don't understand the problem

Psa 36 only has twelve verses, it seems RCL Daily reads Psa 31.9-16 today

Running Logos 9 latest (beta) version on Win 10

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Scott Groethe | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 16 2016 4:25 PM

Sorry, mistyped it in the body of the text, but the problem, yes, it's there in Psa 31

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 16 2016 9:12 PM

What translation are you using? It sounds like a Masoretic vs. LXX issue

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Scott Groethe | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 17 2016 12:07 AM

NLT

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 17 2016 12:16 AM

I can't recreate your issue. Sorry

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Scott Groethe | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 17 2016 12:19 AM

Logos is still booting up so I have to wait to try. I'm going to try on a Mac this time. Thanks for taking the time.

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Scott Groethe | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 17 2016 12:43 AM

I just did it again, Logos 6 on a Mac this time, last time was on a PC

Typed Psa 31 hovering and clicking went to the top of the psalm incl superscription

Psa 31.1 to verse 1

Psa 31.9 to verse 9

Psa 31.9-16, it went to verse 9 but in Psa 32

total headscratcher

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 17 2016 12:50 AM

Because there is a new NLT release, I believe you ... I just wish someone would confirm they can recreate it. I'll try once more but my index is a bit of a mess ... from other issues.

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Scott Groethe | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 17 2016 12:56 AM

I switched to the LEB and it worked as it should - so you're right about it being an NLT issue -thanks a lot

My NLT is 2013 6th ed.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 17 2016 1:27 AM

Tyndale House Publishers. Holy Bible: New Living Translation. Carol Stream, IL: Tyndale House Publishers, 2013.

from the bottom of the information panel

LLS:1.0.171
2016-02-23T23:04:42Z
NLT.logos4
RVI:NLTNT
2016-02-23T22:24:07Z
NLTNT.lbsrvi
RVI:NLTOT
2016-02-23T22:24:07Z
NLTOT.lbsrvi

I am running the beta version ...we need someone who is on the recent release to check ...

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 17 2016 1:27 AM

MJ. Smith:
Because there is a new NLT release, I believe you ... I just wish someone would confirm they can recreate it

When I enter Psa 31:9-16 and hover my mouse over the "9" it shows a link to Ps 32:9 "via" the LXX mapping

If I hover my mouse over the "16" (recognising there are only 11 verses in Ps 32) I get a link to Ps 31

I get the same results with NIV or LEB as my highest prioritised Bible so it is not an NLT-specific issue

This is on Windows 10 running Logos 6.11 beta 2

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 17 2016 1:33 AM

That looks like an error in the verse mapping ... we need to make sure Faithlife sees this bug.

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Scott Groethe | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 17 2016 1:34 AM

Mine is ok now, but I'm telling you it was giving me the wrong Psalm on two platforms today. Perhaps switching the default Bible to LEB then back to NLT did the trick, not a programmer so no idea.

But I try not to post problems unless I have them twice. This was not the first time that the NLT in a note pointed to the wrong target. But I hope this is all cleared up. Thanks for your input.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 17 2016 1:39 AM

The problem appears to be that Notes is using the wrong Bible datatype when you use a period to separate the chapter and the verse. If you use a colon to separate the chapter and the verse, then all is well.

<edit>I mispoke. The issue is not colons and not periods. It seems erratic because second half of the link works OK, and the first half is broken. So depending on where you hover will depend on whether you see the error. See my bug report for more details.</edit>

Now that we've understood the problem, I'll type up a bug report in the beta forum. I'll link back here when I'm done.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 17 2016 1:42 AM

Mark Barnes:
The problem appears to be that Notes is using the wrong Bible datatype when you use a period to separate the chapter and the verse. If you use a colon to separate the chapter and the verse, then all is well.

Mark - that doesn't seem to be consistent with this

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Scott Groethe | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 17 2016 1:43 AM

Mark, I've been doing these notes for a few years, thousands of them in a number of note files, always with a period. I use NLT every day. It works 99.9 percent of the time, but a couple of times it has pointed to the wrong location.

Switched to LEB as default Bible, then back to NLT and now no problem. 

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 17 2016 1:47 AM

Scott Groethe:
but a couple of times it has pointed to the wrong location.

Scott

are you seeing what I am seeing (illustrated above) that you get different results depending on where you hover your cursor (irrespective of the Bible translation)?

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Scott Groethe | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 17 2016 1:50 AM

No one here probably believes me but I had this problem a few hours ago, typed various lines then hovered or clicked, did it on Windows Logos and then Mac Logos and it was the same problem, Psa 31.9-16 pointed to Psa 32.9ff. But it is ok now. I should probably take a screenshot next time.

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